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Anonymous
04/24/02 at 14:10:48
Asalam u Alaikum,

              My friend has a prob and i was wondering if anybody on the board had any advice. She's
              graduating in a few months (alhumdulilah), and doesn't want to shake the hand of the men
              that will hand her her degree certificate. The rest of the girls on her course take a
              liberal slant and are not really bothered by the prospect, but she wants to stick to her guns.
              I know there was a discussion on this on the old board. anybody got any links or further
              comments at all? Jazakallah

              wasalams
Re: Shaking hands with non-mahram
se7en
04/27/02 at 14:07:39

wa alaykum as salaam wa rahmatAllah,

Props to her for sticking to her guns  8)

You can check out those older discussions [url=http://www.jannah.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl/YaBB.pl?board=madrasa&action=display&num=3669]here[/url] and [url=http://www.jannah.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl/YaBB.pl?board=sisters&action=display&num=720]here[/url].

wasalaamu alaykum :)
Re: Shaking hands with non-mahram
Road2Jannah
04/27/02 at 15:01:17
[slm]I know this has been something very hard to avoid especially if u r the type who cant stand embarrassing any1. In my culture some of them even drag u and kiss u in the cheek, Astagfirullah. But as for ur friend mashallah its good wat she is doing. I think that she should talk to her principal before the big day, and if he feels that he needs to do some type of greeting, tell ur friend to tell him to greet her like u know how they do it in the army. raise his hand to his head and salute, or she could do that too.

Another idea for strangers u see, u can make a business card having hadiths of the rasul, and his views on shaking the woman's hand, and as soon as they bring out their hand u get ur card ready to give it to them, when they lay out their hand. Its good in many ways, u give them dawa by it, and u don't embarrass them   :-[ :-*
Re: Shaking hands with non-mahram
Anonymous
04/28/02 at 05:05:34
Salams

I posted before, but it doesnt seem to have appeared. Basically i was wondering if
anybody had any advice for my friend. Shes graduating this summer inshallah and doesnt really
want to shake the hand of the principal of the uni as he hands her certificate to her. any
ideas on how to avoid this? there may have been a discussion about this on the old board
if someone can post a link up jazakallah

wasalams
Re: Shaking hands with non-mahram
BlessedToBeMuslim
04/28/02 at 06:41:10
Assalamu Alaikum,

You could tell the sister to talk to the principal regarding the matter and I'm sure he'll be able to make an exception for your friend.

Wassalamu Alaikum,
Uzer
Re: Shaking hands with non-mahram
Barr
04/29/02 at 10:00:09
Assalamu'alaikum :-)

You may want to see the principle directly as Br Uzer suuggested. Or.. alternatively, you can approach your Islamic Society. InshaALlah, they would be able to help. This way, not only will you benefit, but all Muslims in your batch, and thereafter would benefit as well, as this is seen as a colletive request, rather than an individual one.

There are several avenues that the Islamic Society can take from this point. The society can approach the Graduation commitee, International  Students Office as well as the Equal Opportunities Office. Different universities would have different points to consult with regards to this matter. Alternatively, the ISoc may consult the students union first, to see who is the best person to approach.

So, once you find the right contact point, and tell them of your concerns, more often than not, they are more than willing to comply, inshaALlah.

Just to share my experience. When I was at uni, we approached the International Students Office, and we told them of our request and we suggested that we wear a small ribbon or badge to identify that we do not wish to shake hands. Surprisingly, the uni already has this policy in place, where all you need to do is give a littel nod to the VIce Chanellor (in my case, he is the one that gives out the certs) and he'll know. In my case.. he didn't wait for the nod.. he automatically, clasp his hands together and nod, instead of shaking my hands! Aww.. he's a really nice man... Even in university... he has a heart for the students, mashaAllah.

So, sometimes, there might already a policy in place, but we are unaware of it.

Hope this helps, inshaALlah. All the best and tell us of the developments!

Take care! wassalam :-)



Re: Shaking hands with non-mahram
Chris
04/29/02 at 14:44:05
Just tell the girl to have a chat with the principl beforehand and sort it out.  Don't get any soceties involved as that will muddy the waters and  result in bad feeling.
Chris
Re: Shaking hands with non-mahram
Hijabi4eva
05/04/02 at 07:14:02
...salams,
wen i read tis title, all sorts of old storys came to mind!

i remember the way i used to avoid shakin hands wid opp sex!

like wen i had to collect a certificate fr a basket player, every1 shaked the guys hand! :o i knew it was rong, so i put ma hand fwd, took ma certificate.. :P. den he put his hand fwd, n i walked off wid ma certificate! da whole front row were laffin, :-* n cudnt get ova it 4 ages! :-/

ow ya, n jus a wk or so ago, wen i passed ma 1st aid, the examiner congratulated me,  :-)n put his hands fwd to shak it :(! so i took ma papers n acted as if i din ev en realise he put his hands out! :-/

i'll shut up now! ;)

...but ya its hard! 8)
Re: Shaking hands with non-mahram
A_Stranger
05/05/02 at 07:17:37
[slm]

Sorry to bring up this old thread..but I had to share something that I learnt the other day...  ;D

When a Muslim shakes another Muslim's hands, he should say:

"Yaghfirullaahu lee walakum"

Which means:

"May Allah forgive me and you".

Cool innit?  :)

Peace
:-)
Re: Shaking hands with non-mahram
sunset
05/05/02 at 21:22:39
[slm]

I believe the suggestions given above are very good but I was just thinking about a situation in my country for our ladies toll booth collector. No matter how careful they are, its really hard trying not to touch the non mahram hands especially while the transaction been made. To avoid touching hands of non mahram, they wear hand gloves.

Perhaps if the sister failed to get any of those suggestions to work, maybe wearing hand gloves could keep her from touching a non mahram hands.
Allah knows our intention best anyway.

:-)
Re: Shaking hands with non-mahram
wired-up
05/07/02 at 03:17:38
Assalamualaikum Warahmatullah

I remember a saaaad story from my high-school graduation .Well Ahamdullilah i was a graduate and a prize-winner .So all is kewl when i get my graduation certificate.Then for the prize winners the guest changed and somehow the head of department dude just forgot to tell the guest distributing the certificates NOT to shake my hand .EEEEEEk!!!!he started explaining it to him but the guest already had his hand out and he insisted I shake it which to avoid embarassement at that moment I did:(.

Arggggggh!he had his hand out for about 3 long seconds I couldnt start explaining it to him coz it was a BIG ceremony.Painful memory .

So i suggest
1)tell ALL the staff who is on stage about your concerns .
2) I really like the card idea by road2jannah .very kool!
3)be in a hurry to get off the stage maybe ppl will think she just forgot to shake hands:)
4)Scream ......AEROPLANE!! ...while pointing behind  the guest .The startled guest is goina turn around while your friend can make a haaasty exit:)
j/k

I think even after everything is over proud parents might try to congratulate you .what can be done then ???

Inshallah everything will turn out  a-okay.Congratulate your friend on her graduation.mabrook:)

Assalamualaikum warahmatullah


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