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| @shahid |
| 05/11/02 at 19:58:26 |
| [slm] Joy Bangla or Bangladesh Murdabad? Sunday 12th of May 2002 is the day thousands of misguided Muslims will take to the streets of East London celebrating the 'Boishak' month in the Bangladeshi calender. This article highlights that those who attend the melas have nothing at all to celebrate. Bangladesh: A Desh plagued with problems Bangladesh is one of the poorest, most corrupt and oppressive countries in the world today. She is identical to her sisters, the UK and the USA in the sense that these country's rulers all implement Non-Islamic, Barbaric law and order. They brain wash the masses with kufr (non-Islam), steal the resources of Muslims and kill, rape, murder and butcher innocent Muslims across the world. There are many more problems Bangladesh faces; below are some of them. Rulers The rulers of Bangladesh, from Sheikh Mojibur Rahman, right through to the present ruler Khaleda Zia, have brought the people of Bangladesh nothing but corruption, oppression and poverty. Sheikh Hasina declared war on Islam by sending the military to kill, murder and beat any person who believes in 'La ilaha ilallah, Muhammadur-Rasulullah'. The events from last year are all too familiar. She, like her father, became a disbeliever in Allah by accepting sovereignty for man-made law and implemented Kufr law. She deprived the people of basic necessities of life such as food, clothing and shelter. Khaleda Zia, apart from her yellow teeth, is no different. She is an apostate (non-Muslim) who openly supported the bombing of Muslims in Afghanistan. She implements kufr law and has openly stated that Bangladesh is not an Islamic state and far from being so. She has said that it is a barbaric 'Democracy' state, which declares war on Islam and Muslims. As one of her ministers said: “Bangladesh is not a Taleban state” in response to many criticisms the country has received from allegedly allowing the preaching of 'terrorism' (i.e. Islam) in Madrasas across the country. The minister in this statement clearly means that Bangladesh will remain a corrupted secular country, and will not tolerate any implementation of Islamic law. Allah (swt) says in the Qur'an: “Those who do not rule by what Allah has revealed are disbelievers” (5: 44) Undoubtedly, nobody who has ever ruled Bangladesh has ever implemented Islam, and as the verse clearly states, those who implement law and order, which is not Islamic; are disbelievers. Mojibur Rahman, Hasina and Zia all fall under this category of not ruling by Islam. Kufr Law The Bangladeshi constitution basses its fundamental principles on nationalism, socialism, democracy and secularism. From day one, the Muslims in Bangladesh are taught to love their country, die for their country, live for their country and to be a slave to their country. They are brainwashed with nationalism, patriotism and other kufr concepts. Just by looking at the constitution, you can see the similarities between Bangladesh and the USA. Both preach the cancer of democracy, freedom and secularism as well as brainwashing the population with concepts of nationalism. The Messenger Muhammad (saw) said: “He is not one of us (Muslim) who calls for nationalism, or who fights for nationalism, or who dies for nationalism.” This hadith clearly states that the one who call for nationalism is not a Muslim. So by Bangladesh basing its fundamental principles on something that makes you a Kafir, what does that say about the law and order in Bangladesh? IT IS KUFR! Islam declares war on Democracy. Democracy is a system where the people decide what laws and regulations to live by. The people are the source of legislation and decide what is right and what is wrong. In Islam, this is the sole right of Allah, as he Almighty states in Surah Yusuf: “The sole right of legislation is for none but Allah”. Man, by making law and order is playing the role of God. And by legislating, he/she becomes a disbeliever. Here again, the constitution bases its fundamental principles on concepts, which make a person kafir. Islam declares war on Secularism. The concept of secularism is to detach religion from life's affairs. Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism and all other religions are secular religions and are proud to be so. Whereas Islam is not a religion, but an ideology. The reason why Bangladesh preaches secularism is because it obeys the law order by from Shaitaan, who she willingly obeys. Any person who believes in secularism, i.e. believing that Islam is only praying, fasting and personal issues and nothing to do with how we live our life, what laws we obey etc is undoubtedly KAFIR! Islam came for the whole of mankind. Islam came to dominate the world. And Islam came to rid the world of oppressive man-made law. Allah says in the Qur'an: “It is He who has sent his messenger (Muhammad) with guidance and the deen of truth (Islam) to make it dominate the whole world, even though the Mushrikoon (idol worshippers, people who worship other then Allah i.e. Khaleda Zia, Tony Blair) hate it!” (9: 33) If Islam came to dominate the world, how on earth could it be a measly secular religion?! The Kufr state of Bangladesh have clearly allied with the disbelievers to insult, ridicule and terrorise Muslims. Bangladesh is a member of the United Nations (an organisation of rapists, paedophiles and Murderers). To be a member of the United Nations, you must declare sovereignty for man (which makes you a kafir). You have to recognise sovereignty for the illegitimate state of Israel (which makes you a kafir). You have to obey man, and not Allah (which makes you a kafir). You have to send your troops to kill Muslims (which makes you kafir). You have to take all the money from the poor and give it to the US and UK so that they can bomb Muslims in Afghanistan, Chechnya, Palestine, Iraq and all other Muslim countries (which makes you a kafir). And most important of all: you have to be an enemy of Allah, the Muslims and Muhammad (saw), WHICH MAKES YOU A KAFIR! Bangladesh has a population of over 130 million people, of which over 33% live below the poverty line. That is approximately 43 million people who have no food, clothing and shelter! Bangladesh has many other problems such as women being beaten, raped. It has corrupt TV channels such as 'Ekushe TV' broadcasting kufr concepts and kufr values. Brainwashing the elders of the Bangladeshi community to forcefully marry off their children to secular, corrupted individuals who believe in 'Amar sona Bangla' as well as to teach their children Kufr education rather than Islam. Bangladesh suffers from Tribalism, paedophilia, corrupted Imams who preach 'fake' Islam for money (scholars for dollars), Nationalism, Democracy, Hinduism, Freedom, Tribalism, Alcohol, Nightclubs, free-mixing, homosexuality and many, many more problems! The Bangladeshi Community in the UK The Bangladeshi community here, like the Bangladeshis in Bangladesh, face similar problems. We see our sisters, daughters and wives, dressing and thinking in a Western and kufr manner. They free-mix openly, flirt around; have boy friends and now, a'oozoobillah, girl friends too! They have completely lost their sense of direction and violate their own honour. Our sons, brothers and husbands are completely corrupted as well. They no longer support their families, they take drugs, drink alcohol and go to nightclubs. We can see what the Muslim youth get up to everyday: walking around with tight clothes, half a pot of gel on their hair, looking to impress the girls. Driving ringer (stolen) cars, fornicating, swearing and hanging around in gangs. What really doesn't help the situation is the parents who send their children to these secular, corrupt, kufr schools in the first place. And don't forget the secular Muslims who are proud of neglecting their duties of working for the Islamic State and prefer receiving awards for their kufr achievements from school instead. The schools and the kufr British government are the cause of these problems in the first place, so how dumb can people get by going to the government and asking for help? It's like smoking a cigarette and hoping that it will cure your asthma! Apart as blaming ourselves, ultimately the Kufr law must also be blamed. The Kuffar and hypocrites organise events such as 'Boishaki Melas' for you to forget about your obligations and to love the dunya. They want you to be secular and nationalistic, leave Islam and become Kafir, as Allah states in the Qur'an: “Never will the Jews and the Christians be happy with you until you leave your deen (Islam)”. Most likely after reading this, you will probably say to your mother and father: “Is Bangladesh a kufr state? Is Khaleda Zia really a kafir?” They will most probably say: “What?! How dare you say all the people in Bangladesh are kafir!?” The fact is, we are not saying all the people of Bangladesh are kafir. Rather, to cut it short and sharp: The law and order is kufr, and the ruler (Khaleda Zia) is a Kafir. This is the root cause of the problems in Bangladesh. The root cause of the problems you face with your families, your brothers, sisters, your friends and society is man-made law and kufr. Islam is the ONLY solution Oh Muslims! Your brothers and sisters are being killed all over the world by the Kuffar and hypocrites! Burn your Bangladeshi flags and symbols. Fulfil your duties towards Allah. Work to implement Islam, carry Islam openly and publicly and do not fear what people will say about you. Allah is enough for you. He is your provider, he is your sustainer, he is your creator, and he knows what is right and what is wrong. Save yourselves and your families from the hell-fire. Allah says in the Qur'an: “You (Muslims) are the Best nation ever raised from mankind. Because you command what is right (Islam) and you forbid what is evil (non-Islam) and you believe in Allah” How dare you lower yourselves from the divine name Allah has given you “The best Nation” to the lowest nation by calling yourself Bengali! You are not Bengali, nor Asian nor British; but Muslim first, Muslim second and Muslim last. Change your name from 'A' back to Ayesha; change your name back from 'Mo' to Muhammad! Be proud to be Muslim. Expose man-made law. Pray your Salah five times a day, command the good, and forbid the evil. Oh Muslims! How can you celebrate at a time where your mothers, your sisters, and your daughters are being raped, killed and butchered!? You are the best nation. Not because you think you are Bengali, not because you think you are British, but because you are MUSLIM. Obey Allah and obey the messenger. Practice your deen, leave your haram way of life and join the struggle between Truth (Islam) and falsehood (non-Islam). Verily, only these are the successful. Source: Al-Muhajiroun Central London Email us your comments to webteam@almuhajiroun.com [slm] |
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| @shahid |
| 05/11/02 at 20:07:46 |
| By the way there will insha Allah be sincere muslims at this kufr event to forbid the munkar (evil) of nationalism! With a stall of literature, mass distribution, loud speakers insha Allah. So please come and support this good work and give much needed advice to the muslims. |
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| mwishka |
| 05/11/02 at 20:57:47 |
| this isn't necessarily a direct reply to specific content of this article, but a response based on my feelings as i read it. ok, i have an unease that's actually quite general, and comes to my mind many times in many sorts of discussions with many kinds of people. it came up again as i read this article, and i wondered if anyone would be willing to comment on what discomfits me. not having been raised muslim, and having grown up in a religious family but with no personal relationship to god, i guess i have a somewhat innocent, unformed perspective on god, islam, and the role of those ideas in one's life at the most personal level. here's what i always feel discomfort with: any discussion which tends to lump people together, to crudely categorize them. i encounter this daily, and it makes me feel agitated physically as i struggle mentally with trying to understand this idea that all people are not exactly the same, and that there's any sense or use or reason in thinking of any of us as "kinds" or disparate units of some sort. i do understand the personal desire to resist forces which oppress, whether religiously, economically, or socially, but i don't understand the idea or process some people seem to use to simplify their view of other people, as if you would go into any room filled with people and just check off boxes in your mind as you consider each person there. it seems to me that each and every person is an idea, a thought, an impression all their own...... sigh. this just eludes me. i understand the desire to protect the practice of islam, but i don't get the notion that every single muslim might not be thinking and acting for themselves, based on how they are interpreting the individuals they encounter and figuring out how best to communicate with them and to convey to them the rightness of islam: person to person. you know, i don't mind if individuals think of me as kuffar ( < and i don't even know if i've used the plural or singular form of that word) - i'm sure there are probably even people reading at this board who find themselves reacting in disgust to the idea of a mind or heart being bereft of god. but it just really bothers me to feel the strong sense of "them" that i find in so many hearts, everywhere. who are "they"?? they're just other people exactly like yourself, and sometimes they're people who don't yet or maybe never will share your joy in following the path of islam, but they're not some other species.... and as i said this is not something i find to be particular to muslims, this lack of personal identity with other humans - i see it all the time and hear it all the time directed at lots of different "categories" of people in some very hurtful ways, and it just wears on me..... and i'm wondering how any of you, the people who live this life close to your god, and always in the presence of your god, think about this way of approaching the world - in boxes. mwishka (and i don't know what kind of day this has been, but i think this is my fourth or even fifth visit here today....... wow.) |
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| humble_muslim |
| 05/12/02 at 10:32:31 |
| AA This was a pathetic article. It completely ignores the injunction in the Quran : Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance. (16:125). Does the guy(s) who write this article really believe that the tone in which it is wriiten will appeal to anyone ? 99% of the muslims reading that article will simply brand it as the work of an "extremist". Muslims of the first generation in the UK made a BIG mistake by ignoring the above ayat; insetad of calling the non mulims to Islam, they just wanted to stick to themselves, and have nothing to do with the "white people". Now it looks like some people are making a mistake with the current generation but not using "wisdom and beuatiful preaching". And we wonder why we are in such a mess. |
| NS |
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| Kashif |
| 05/12/02 at 12:33:26 |
| assalaamu alaikum Take it easy bro. The source of the article is al-Muhajiroon, and they have a bit of a reputation for coming out with wacky stuff. There appeal is very limited. Kashif Wa Salaam |
| NS |
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| @shahid |
| 05/12/02 at 19:43:24 |
| [slm] You call me 'extremist', if that means following Islam insha Allah completely without comprimising then let that be my title. You see, comprimising the deen of Islam is a very dangerous concept . Islam is black and white there is no grey area, therefore should not arise any fundemental confusions. The muslims cant not justify comprimising with the issue of 'balance', since this is sometimes required in Islam. The word extremist, terrorist, etc is used all the time however this is an attack on the truth (Islam). So dont get fooled oh muslims by the kufr media. [slm] |
| 05/12/02 at 19:45:39 |
| @shahid |
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| humble_muslim |
| 05/13/02 at 10:20:39 |
| AA Shadid, you say : "follow Islam completely..." So why not follow this ayat ? |
| NS |
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| muqaddar |
| 05/14/02 at 12:29:54 |
| [slm] I think celebrating your culture providing it isn't doing something against quran and sunnah is islamic . Don't confuse culture with nationalism. Give dawah by all means ... i havn't met an Anglo who hasn't sold me down the river but that doesn't mean that i should not be sincere towards Anglo's.. so don't attack every body of a particular nation on the basis of what the people of that group have done to you Similarly i don't think we should attack muslim groups unreservedly..we can condemn some of their tendencies but you have to ask why does that tendency appeal to some muslims..is it because of their enviroment? there are no grey areas with regards to our aqeedah but there are grey areas with regards to the understanding of the sharia... so there are no sects in islam but there are people who follow a particular scholars understanding of some point of law |
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| Anonymous |
| 05/20/02 at 18:14:55 |
| As-salaam alaikum, This event was totally against the Quran and sunnah!!! This event was totally full of free mixing, blasting music + etc!!! Even though its pretty harsh...I personally thought this article was an excelent article, a sister e-mailed it to me and later that day i went down stairs just to find my mother was watching ETV with a massive smile on her face and the channel was advertising this totally jahil event! Not everyone in bangladesh is jahil and bad, i have met really nice muslims there and thinks its wrong to put all bengalis in this group of jahils!!! ?But cant u all see how corrupt this event was??? tc Ur sister in islam |
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| humble_muslim |
| 05/21/02 at 10:14:22 |
| [slm] Yes, it is jahil, and people should be given dawah, but by simply making takfeer of the leaders, how can that possibly stop people from going to these kind of events ? |
| NS |
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| jannah |
| 05/22/02 at 11:50:14 |
| [slm] Hmm this article mentions Kafir 14 times and I didn't even count how many times the word Kufr appears!!! I think a good rule of thumb is to stop reading when anything/one mentions kafir more than 3 times. If you look back to the writings of conscious scholars of the past, they were extremely pressed to even say the word KAFIR once and then only with many conditions and disclaimers because to declare/accuse anyone of that is an extremely heavy burden on the Day of Judgement. |
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| M.F. |
| 05/23/02 at 06:20:11 |
| [quote]Islam is black and white there is no grey area[/quote] Assalamu alaikum, reading this, I immediately think: this is serious. Thinking that Islam is purely black and white is dangerous. If Islam were black and white only I don't think it would have ever caught on, I don't think people would have ever been able to follow it. I think there's huge gray areas between what's clearly black and white. It's the shades of gray that have made it adaptable to all types of people over all these centuries. |
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| jannah |
| 05/23/02 at 12:45:47 |
| Good point M.F. !! It's interesting how traditionally acts are actually broken up into 5 categories: 1. Haram (forbidden) 2. Wajib (mandatory) 3. Mustahabb (recommended) 4. Mubah (permissible) 5. Sunnah (rewardable) There's such a spectrum! |
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| muqaddar |
| 05/25/02 at 10:49:35 |
| [slm] hmm extremes lead to extremes... an extreme of murjia belief leads eventually to an extreme of khawarij belief it's interesting because the people in power are khawarij (eg they kill muslims whilst sparing the non-muslim) wheras they want a public that is murjia.. Ahl i sunna wal jamaa is best ! |
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