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mujaahid
05/14/02 at 11:16:58
Islamabad made a decision to withdraw the American troops from the regions bordering Afghanistan. Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf made this decision after lengthy negotiations with the elders of Pashtun tribes and after consultations with the US leadership. This was reported by Pakistani newspaper Frontier Post, which referred to the sources in the government.

It has been ruled to withdraw the American troops from the territories of free Pashtun tribes because the freedom-loving Pashtun threatened to start a campaign of disobedience to Islamabad, and their religious leaders have called on their supporters to resist the Americans. Pakistani sources reported that in exchange for the US withdrawal, the elders and chiefs firmly guaranteed not to let the Taliban or Al-Qaeda fighters into their territories. They have also confirmed their willingness to assist Pakistani troops in their operations near the Afghan border. The Pashtu have never let the government troops into their lands before. At the same time, Pakistani authorities are pointing that they do not rule out the possibility of inviting foreign servicemen again in order to conduct military operations on the territories of free Pashtun tribes, «if the situation develops in a negative way».

However, statement of Islamabad and promises of local chiefs have nothing to do with reality. In fact, nobody has any doubts that General Musharraf had to go for the terms of the Pashtuns, because Islamabad has never controlled these territories and its rule has always had purely nominal character in this region. The Americans and Musharraf are now facing the new dilemma of a full-scale war, but this time on the territory of Pakistan, and what's more, in Afghanistan the Taliban units are increasing their military pressure on the troops of the Western coalition, and as the Pentagon admitted, they are getting ready for serious combats with the Americans.

The reports from both Western and Pakistani sources are looking quite symptomatic on this background. The sources report that the American troops once again were under a rocket attack on the territory of Pakistan. This was reported by Reuters referring to Pakistani Agency Online. Shots were fired at the college building in Miranshah, where American soldiers are assumed to be stationed. Rockets did not hit the school, where the Americans were sleeping. They exploded on a playground not too far from the building.

This was not the first case of shots being fired at the American troops on the territory of Pakistan. Local observers and Western journalists reminded in that regard, that Musharraf's decision to let the Western coalition use the air force bases, which was made last fall, led to mass protests. And any increase of the cooperation between Islamabad and the US will inevitably lead to even bigger explosion.

Khatu Khamidov, «Kavkaz-Center»

Re: Mujaahideen threats force musharaf to change p
muqaddar
05/14/02 at 11:27:45
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 musharaf is lying as usual , he lied about kargil, he lied about his takeover , he lied about the war against the afghans , he lied about the 'referendum' and now he's lying about the americans leaving pakistani territory

what can you say about a man who's own relatives call him a non-muslim
and who brother states he's a a 'nominal muslim' (nominal means in name only)

the americans will get rid of him soon and place imran khan in power
Re: Mujaahideen threats force musharaf to change p
A_Stranger
05/14/02 at 11:43:12
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Hmm..how'd you know musharraf's lying? The Pashtun are very strong people and are very unified, especially in these times..and it's true, Islamabad never really had much involvment with places like  the NWFP. But I don't like the idea that the Pushtoon won't let the people from the Taliban or Al-Qa'idah into their territories as an exchange for the withdrawal..

What's this hype about Imran Khan these days?
And while I'm here, has anyone heard about the murder of Moulana Murtaza? He was against the referendum thing and while he was driving on the motorway (I think) in Pakistan, some people asked him to stop. He did so, and these people murdered him. There's alotta rumour that these murderers were workin for musharraf. Allahu a'lam.

Wassalaam


Re: Mujaahideen threats force musharaf to change p
muqaddar
05/14/02 at 11:56:34
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Hmm..how'd you know musharraf's lying? The Pashtun are very strong people and are very unified, especially in these times..and it's true, Islamabad never really had much involvment with places like  the NWFP. But I don't like the idea that the Pushtoon won't let the people from the Taliban or Al-Qa'idah into their territories as an exchange for the withdrawal..

What's this hype about Imran Khan these days?
And while I'm here, has anyone heard about the murder of Moulana Murtaza? He was against the referendum thing and while he was driving on the motorway (I think) in Pakistan, some people asked him to stop. He did so, and these people murdered him. There's alotta rumour that these murderers were workin for musharraf. Allahu a'lam.

Wassalaam


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islam is a stranger heh..  :)

imran khan the bloke who invited his good friend kissinger the war criminal to his wedding..need i say more?

 hmm there was an article a few years ago in Impact about a pakistani journalist who was killed after writing an article about how the pakistani government was going to hand over Gwadar port to the american navy after building it up basically letting the americans surround china on all sides

you judge people on their past actions and whether they have sincerely done tawbah
Re: Mujaahideen threats force musharaf to change p
mujaahid
05/14/02 at 15:33:02
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A_Stranger

"But I don't like the idea that the Pushtoon won't let the people from the Taliban or Al-Qa'idah into their territories as an exchange for the withdrawal"

Dont worry bro/sis, this is mere lip service from the Pashtuns who simply want to avoid large scale trouble while thier brothers are regrouping on their land. If they wanted, they could be macho and say "yeah, the taliban are here, we dont fear you, come and get them and see what we do to you" but then that would cause a lot of problems for the mujaahideen as they would have thousands of munaafiq troops swarming around, afecting the plans for the Afghan fightback.

The Mujahideen are lying low, and the Pashtuns, without doubt will be helping them.

Muqaddar

first of all, a B-I-G Hug from your brother Mujaahid  ;)

Now, bro, Musharraf is a liar, we all know that, we all know he is a western puppet and a spinless coward, but he isnt stupid. Their are 14 million muslim fundamentalists in the border regions, and Musharraf knows these guys are well trianed, well armed, and dont have any fear of a civil war. He also knows that many in his own army will support the pastuns in a civil war. So he is trying to avoid a national diaster by doing as the Pashtuns say. He knows he cannot walk over the mujaahideen and thier supporters for long.

He realises that that the further back he pushes them, the harder they will come back at him.
Re: Mujaahideen threats force musharaf to change p
Sr_Mariam
05/14/02 at 17:43:38
To A_Stranger

Brother about what you said that the pushtuns not letting the taliban in, let me tell ya, i went last year to the North west frontier and believe me i thought the whole of Afghanistan was living their. Now i couldn't tell who were Taliban fighters, but you can be sure that there is no security in those areas. People can come and go as they please, across the borders.

Just put this way, When i went to Peshawar, i had 1 foot on the Pakistani land and one foot on Afghan land , thats the so-called border, (there isn't one)
Re: Mujaahideen threats force musharaf to change p
A_Stranger
05/15/02 at 18:13:33
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Ah, inshaAllah, hope it really is mere lip service.
And Sr. Mariam, I know what you mean about the NWFP, its dominated by the pushtoon...I should know  ;)

And br.muqaddar, I agree, people judge others by their past actions..musharraf, I didn't know about his wedding and his brother calling him a 'nominal Muslim'..interesting..

Jazakallah khair
Wassalaam


Re: Mujaahideen threats force musharaf to change p
struggling
05/15/02 at 23:21:42
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Pakistan has sent more than 1,000 troops near Afghanistan's borders as it steps up its search for suspected al-Qaeda and Taleban militants.

The move comes shortly after US press reports said that Washington was not pleased with Pakistan's efforts in the region.

General Tommy Franks, the head of US operations in Afghanistan, dismissed these claims saying "President Musharraf and his government have been exceedingly co-operative".

This is the first time in more than 50 years that such a large number of Pakistani troops have gone into a semi-autonomous tribal region, where the writ of the federal authorities has not been accepted since the British colonial days.

Tribal law

US military officials believe many suspected al-Qaeda and Taleban members may have slipped across Afghanistan's porous border to Pakistan.

The Taleban's ultra strict interpretation of Islam found fertile recruiting grounds among the conservative Pashtun tribes living in the area.

During a visit to US troops in Afghanistan on Wednesday, General Franks said that operations in the tribal areas of eastern Afghanistan and western Pakistan must continue.

"Do we have work that we must do in that border area in the near future? Yes, we do," said General Franks.

Complaints

Washington considers President Musharraf's continuing co-operation - first pledged days after the 11 September attacks - crucial to the anti-terrorism battle.

But US officials have allegedly complained that they would like to see the Pakistani military undertake more forceful actions in the tribal border region.

Some US personnel are working with Pakistani troops there, but they say it is frustrating not to be able to send a larger conventional force into the area.

General Franks was quick to dismiss the complaints, saying he was pleased with the level of cooperation he had received from President Musharraf.

Tribal protests

As military operations increase in the tribal region, the authorities have banned the display of weapons in public, following a series of protest demonstrations by armed tribesmen and a few incidents in which rockets were fired.

Officials say the protest started after reports circulated that some American troops were also involved in the military operation.

The officials insist that the search and arrest operation is only being carried out by the Pakistani forces, but admit that the military is still facing resistance from the highly conservative tribesmen when they carry out house-to-house searchs.

The BBC's correspondent Zaffar Abbas says that though tensions are still running high in the tribal region, military officials are determined to continue with the search operation for as long as it takes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1989000/1989862.stm


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