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| She loves a Shi’i man and wants to marry him |
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| Kathy |
| 05/21/02 at 08:40:17 |
| [slm] Yesterday a Sister asked me this question- I told her I would look it up for her. Please note the quote below. [quote]Madina Law #13-No prolonged arguments about any issues that even the scholars of Islam over the centuries have not come to a consensus on! This includes controversial issues. (ie meat, music, mawlid, taliban, voting, madhabs, bashing scholars, suicide bombings, niqab, sunni/shia/sufi/salafi/jamaat/whatever debates) There is no takfir of any kind allowed on this board i.e you are not allowed to call any muslim a kafir. [/quote] Islam Questions & Answers www.islam-qa.com Question Reference Number:: 4569 Title: She loves a Shi’i man and wants to marry him i need to find some useful info about shias and thier difference between us sunnis... i know this man and he loves me very much and wishes to marry me - forever not the mut aa type of marraige, however i know his bsiefs are not in line with the sunnis so i ahve discussed this wiht him and he has agreed to to research the differences - i ma hoping that this way he will be able to decide for himself which is the right path my problem is that i ma not able to find any sights whihc provide proper comparison and which do not directly accuse shias as being wwrong - i wish to talk to someone about this aaas i know there I wll be questions raised between me and this person however i need assistance and would much apreciate it if i could talk to someone or get a source where even he could study which would not make him feel as if his beiefs are being pout down - i think that telling soeone softly and nicely will amke a person more willing to listen than saying his beilefs are worng Answer: Praise be to Allaah. We Sunnis wish all people well, and we ask Allaah to guide all those who are misled and to reward all those who obey Him. We hope that Allaah will guide those Raafidis… The differences between the Ahl al-Sunnah (Sunnis) and the Raafidis are very great and are fundamental. For example, the Raafidis say that the Qur’aan was altered, and they condemn most of the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) and think that they went astray; they exaggerate about their imaams and worship them, and give them precedence over the Prophets and angels; they go on pilgrimages to mashhads (shrines) and graves, where they do all kinds of actions of shirk, associating others in worship with Allaah. They also believe in hypocrisy (as a tenet of faith) and call it taqiyah (dissimulation), and they believe in al-badaa’(the notion that Allaah “changes His mind”), al-raj’ah (the Return, i.e., the raising of the dead to life again for some time in the same form as they were before) and absolute infallibility of their imaams, and in prostrating on a handful of clay… We advise you to read "Al-Khutoot al-‘Areedah" by Muhibb al-Deen al-Khateeb [this book is available in English – Translator], or Mukhtasar al-Tuhfat al-Ithna’ ‘Ashariyyah by al-Dahlawi, or Fikrat al-Taqreeb bayna Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Shee’ah by Naasir al-Qaffaari. And we advise you not to think of marrying this man… Whoever gives up something for the sake of Allaah, Allaah will compensate him with something better. We ask Allaah to make you strong and grant you a good life in this world and in the Hereafter. We would also remind you that it is not permitted to have relationships with non-mahram men, as you will find explained clearly in Questions 2005 , 9465 And 1114 We ask Allaah to help you to do all that is good. Shaykh Muhammad Aal ‘Abd al-Lateef (www.islam-qa.com) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| NS |
| Re: She loves a Shi’i man and wants to marry him |
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| Dream_Of_Islam |
| 07/11/02 at 08:42:28 |
| [slm] I come from a Shi'i father and a Sunni mother, and to tell you the truth me and my sisters could not be mroe happy! not only did we get the oppertunity in learning from both, but we have such an open mind towards many others issues! and i think that what my parents did to us was greatm, they didn't interefere until we were ready, they let our schools teach us the way they do and that was it! and now we understand both!A lot of people keep on asking us how we can co-op with our families, but tis very easy, because weather ur sunni or shi'i, its not a big deal! we are all muslim, we ar eall one! whne they ask me what madhhab i am, i just say muslim, never in my life did me or my sisters use the term "sunni" " shi'i" with ourselves~ !! its very easy anf theres nothing too it! i think you should go for the marriage and isnahllah it will eb a great onje! my parents were married for the past 26 years and inshallah more to come! yes of course there are goign to be a little arguments, but thats what every couple goes thru, and i think its better to mis with eachother in order to elarn and be more open minded! wa al salam.. :) brother Mohd [wlm] |
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| The_Naeem |
| 07/11/02 at 12:41:16 |
| Salaams Karthy was the way the brother from the website answered, suppose to be a "Kind Way" of showing the difference between shia and sunni? It seemed somewhat harsh to me. One thing I know is, there are alot of people running around with a title on their head "Sunni" that practice hardly anything from the sunnah. I wonder could that be the same case for other sects of Islam? I have a friend who is marrying a girl whose family background is shia and I guess he is sunni. They will inshallah work out their differences. I have friends that fall in many categories, but I guess the only differences that I've I noticed out right was the way salat is made. We had dicussion camps conference taught exactly the same info without anyone getting offended. There was even a shia Imam at ISNA last year speaking on this topic. I was a great speech and may they still have it on archive at www.islamicity.com . All I know is we're all trying to make it to the goal. Some understand it to be one way, and others another. Ask Allah for direction and move forward. In the end we'll know where we stand. Oh I have a funny story. I think a friend of mines family backgrond many many many years ago was shia. But this was a time when people were killing and just treating the shia wrongly. So his family told people they were sunni to escape harm. As generations went on they forgot they were shia and started practicing like other sunnis. I thought that was rather funny. Salaams and keep the faith, P.S. Oh by the way, I too am just Muslim, nothing more nothing less, unless Allah elevates me to Mu'min or Muhsin. Now there's a title I'd rock any day. |
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| bhaloo |
| 07/12/02 at 00:14:47 |
| [slm] I do not know why this topic is even being discussed here, I would have deleted this thread had I seen it earlier and asked the person to discuss it with me in private, but qnfortunately some people have already read this thread. I have been in many lengthy discussions with shias (some lasting a year) and have even quotes from their books and hundreds of emails, this place is not the place for these discussions. I'd have to agree with brother Naeem that this was not the best way to show the differences between shia beliefs and sunni beliefs. It is something that requires a more detailed discussion. Yes there are differences, and depending on which shia groups we are talking about there are some very major differences. My recommendation is to stick with someone that is sunni to avoid any complications. If you want you can discuss things with me in IM, I know someone else contacted me and I didn't respond yet, insha'Allah I will as well. |
| 07/12/02 at 00:15:23 |
| bhaloo |
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| Kathy |
| 07/12/02 at 09:27:56 |
| [slm] I have not locked or removed this topic because of the wording of Madina law #13. "No prolonged arguments ..." No one was arguing, just giving their experience and this posting was not prolonged. This post was originally started in May.... Obviously, I would not want to start a post that scholars have been debating shia and sunni. On the other hand, I too know of a couple of these "mixed" marriages, in my little community. So I think it is a reality of the future and others will be dealing with this issue. So I don't want to play the Momma Mod with her head in the sand. Out of respect to Br. Bhaloo, who locked this thread, I will leave it locked. If anyone has a reply that they want to post on this topic, send it to him or me by IM. |
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