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| Jordan Queen 'Mufti' on hardships of hijab |
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| jaihoon |
| 06/08/02 at 01:35:25 |
| Subj: A Message from Her Majesty Date: 12/11/01 5:22:26 PM Central Standard Time From: (Her Majesty Queen Rania) [Text Deleted by Admin] [color=red] [Admin Note: Hijab is a rule ordained by Quran, Hadith and the 100% consensus of the scholars of old and contemporary times. Anyone who would like to dispute this (Queen or not) can do so elsewhere.] [/color] |
| 06/08/02 at 03:29:29 |
| jannah |
| Re: Jordan Queen 'Mufti' on hardships of hijab |
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| muqaddar |
| 06/08/02 at 11:13:29 |
| [slm] Admin I gotta hand it to you , you guys are great! ;D ;D ;D ;D |
| Re: Jordan Queen 'Mufti' on hardships of hijab |
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| jaihoon |
| 06/08/02 at 11:44:17 |
| [quote] [color=red] [Admin Note: Hijab is a rule ordained by Quran, Hadith and the 100% consensus of the scholars of old and contemporary times. Anyone who would like to dispute this (Queen or not) can do so elsewhere.] [/color][/quote] 8) no doubt abt that. The whole point of postin it here was NOT to promote the 'Queen'ish fatwa. Rather to demonstrate the ignorance (as well as the arrogance) of the queen who claims to head a muslim country. I think this is obvious from the 'title' of the post as well as the smiley beside it. ::) |
| Re: Jordan Queen 'Mufti' on hardships of hijab |
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| mwishka |
| 06/08/02 at 11:53:03 |
| um, yeah, from the title bro jaihoon posted i thought it was an article posted with the intent he has stated. i would have liked to read it, and was surprised it vanished - knowing how "leaders" of muslim or nearly muslim countries think is important... but, not having seen the article, it might very well be that this was the right decision in this case. can't even guess on that... mwishka |
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| WhatDFish |
| 06/08/02 at 12:57:09 |
| [slm] yes bro, i believe his intent wasnt to dispute what is in the Qur'an or the commandment of Allah, na`udhubiLlah! his reasons are exactly what he wants to show. i think ure being a lil high-handed here by takin it off. similarly when there was an article abt muslimahs takin part in the miss 'universe' contest. they said they can be a muslimah and still join a flesh parade. by posting that article it does not in any way mean that we agree with them, rather we are warning the rest of the perils of being ultra modern. it can serve as an admonition, a reminder inshaa'Allah. |
| Re: Jordan Queen 'Mufti' on hardships of hijab |
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| Shahida |
| 06/12/02 at 02:17:59 |
| [slm] I agree..would've liked to have read what she had to say... >:( Wasalam Shahida |
| Re: Jordan Queen 'Mufti' on hardships of hijab |
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| Kathy |
| 06/12/02 at 09:18:29 |
| [slm] Kashif- can we put it in the woman's section? I would like to - because many women have concerns about the scarf. I too would like to know what her points of arguement are as they will be all the talk in our circle. This would be an educating process- we can reply to the Queen's comments and others would learn what Islam's take is on her "fatwas :P" |
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| khanzadeh |
| 06/12/02 at 23:11:36 |
| salaam alaikum I think the mod did the right thing by editing out the queen's views. Time and again I have heard from the 'ulama that the best way to get rid of vice is to stop reporting it. We read about, hear about, and witness from news outlets so many vices about which we haven't even thought of before. Same goes for posping on a public message board. Consider the person reading messages with doubts in the back of his mind. There are so many people in various states of eemaan reading these messages whose doubts we may strengthen through our posts. Some of them may be looking for one excuse, just one lame excuse, to justify their actions. Our posts MUST not provide that excuse. Moreover, having a good laugh at a Muslim's expense will not get Allah's (SWT) favor. From the Ulama what I have understood is that we must not have the slightest hint of arrogance/self-righteousness (in matter of deen) in our hearts, not even in the case of a kafir. We should offer astaghfar to cleanse our hearts, offer dua to take out the kibr (arrogance) from our heart, to not put us in the state which people (like the queen) find themselves, and for their guidance. Pray for the queen. Subhanallah, if she is guided, Allah will make her the means of guidance for generations. She is our sister in islam, and we must think only of her welfare until she leaves for the hereafter. After all, shaitan perseveres till our death, so why can't we. Besides, no amount of online/offline replies to the queen's utterances would do any good except to spread the condemned word more and more. Some argue, that a person will learn such and such vice anyways so why not tell him about it and also the cure for the disease. Wrong approach, I'd say. That's how shaitan operates. Shaitan just tells us about a vice and how good we'll feel by acting it out. Then the nafs takes over and does a pretty good job for the shaitan, while the shaitan is busy injecting other vices in our heart. We might be doing the shaitan's work for him. Also, consider this: if we overcome our urge and prevent ourselves from doing the shaitan's deed, when a person eventually comes to know of a vice at some another time and place, inshallah he'll be in a completely different (for the better) state of mind. Most of all, we'll not be held accountable for being the shaitan's proxy and for the person's resulting transgressions. And lastly we should check our trigger-happy tendencies. Something catches our eye on the Net or we have some of our own opinion (usually uninformed) and can't wait to tell everyone else on the web about it. Broadcasts follow. My inbox is a virtual graveyard of such broadcasts. I learnt the hard way to suppress this urge and now, I reconsider about a dozen times before posting anything. Well, as a consequence, usually I don't post. Which is a good thing. Whatever we post, we should try our best to judge it from all angles. Basically do a cost/benefit analysis. The post must not gain Allah's disfavour in anyway. BTW, all of this is not intended to play down the importance of hijab in anyway. Questioning the authenticity of the rulings for hijab in shariah, at least to me, is an insult to the ummahaat ul mu'mineen (RA), to Fatimah (RA), and to all the righteous women who followed their examples. May Allah protect us from fitnah. And yes, I think the mod did the right thing. PS: Whatever I wrote is what I have learned from people of knowledge. Any errors are solely mine and I ask Allah's (SWT) forgiveness for committing the same. PS2: I don't like long posts and usually skim through them. But now I am an author of one and it looks horrible. Hodge podge and badly formed. I am already reconsidering. But some things can't be left unwritten. So pls forgive me. |
| NS |
| Re: Jordan Queen 'Mufti' on hardships of hijab |
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| Kashif |
| 06/13/02 at 06:56:53 |
| assalaamu alaikum jazakumullahu khair to all for their comments. This thread is now closed. Kashif Wa Salaam |
| NS |
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