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| Fatimah |
| 06/14/02 at 15:12:58 |
| should this go here or in the shahada bookstore?? Three persons argued with a scholar One of the scholars was in his orchard and did not mix with the people. Three persons, who used to sneeze at him and at those who behave in such manner, heard about him. One of them said, let us go and argue this scholar. The first advanced towards him and said that, you (the scholar) say Allah is existent and accordingly I want to see Allah. The scholar nodded with them in agreement. The second advanced and said, you say, on the Day of Judgment the chastisement will be with fire, and the Jinn were created from the fire, how is fire tortured by fire. The third advanced and said, you say that everything is predestined and this indicates that man is not responsible for his actions and I see that man creates his actions. Consequently, the scholar filled his hand with a dust and threw it at their faces and said to them this is my answer to your questions. Thereupon, they agreed to suite him and they took him to the ruler. The ruler asked him,’ Are they truthful in what they said that you threw the dust at their faces?’ He replied, ‘Yes’. He said to him, ‘Why?’ The scholar said, ‘Because the first asked me to see his Lord since He is existent, so, say to him to make me see the pain he felt from the dust and I will make him see what he wants.’ The ruler asked the complainer, ‘Are you able to make him see the pain?’ He replied, ‘No.’ The scholar said, ‘ Say to this ignorant person that not all what is existent can be seen.’ As for the second, he asked me about the torturing of the Jinn with the fire and thought that it is impossible to torture the thing with the substance from which it is made. He said to the ruler why did this man feel pains of this dust since he is created from it. And the third asked me about the meaning of predestination and said to me you must admit that the man is forced in his actions and forget that man has the choice of gaining (whether bad or good). If I had no choice in throwing the dust at the face of this person, why did he suit me?’ Here the ruler said, do not think that you can masterly identify God. He is beyond the creatures’ intuition for He is more Glorious to be known except through His creatures and signs. |
| 06/14/02 at 15:14:49 |
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