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Odd man out at work?
Kashif
06/20/02 at 19:03:27
assalaamu alaikum

The thread that sis Kathy started in the NC prompted me to ask how people 'socialise' with work colleagues. For people in the UK, the problem is that every social gathering revolves around the pub. Company doing well? Down the pub mate. Someone's birthday? Down the pub again. Friday night? See you at the pub!

Do brothers or sisters interact with colleagues outside of work or after work hours just to 'hang out' with each other? Or do people just not want to mix with them any longer than the obligatory 9-5?! hehe

Kashif
Wa Salaam
NS
Re: Odd man out at work?
BrKhalid
06/21/02 at 06:15:13
Asalaamu Alaikum ;-)

If you're starting a new job, I think an important thing to do is to set your stall out from the moment you start as to what you will/will not do.

Not only a good dawah opportunity but helps deal with any awkward moments later on.


As for socialising within the work environment, buying cakes for your colleagues at Eid time is always a good idea. ;-)
06/21/02 at 06:17:21
BrKhalid
Re: Odd man out at work?
flyboy_nz
06/23/02 at 07:37:55
[slm],

I guess its all about setting an identity at work, sure they can go to the pub if they want to, but generally if they get to know you and understand that the pub just ain't your scene then they may be more inclined to do dinners at restaurants or chill out at cafes.... I think back in my student days the pub used to be the more common hangout of the students, but as you get into working life, tastes tend to get more up-market and people tend to drink less and talk more so restaurants and cafes get more popular... or maybe its just that they're working with me  ;D

Alhamdulillah I'm blessed with a workplace that is generally understanding and aren't really bothered with me whipping out the prayer mat and doin my salaat in the office.. I got an awesome idea from madina a while back- having a sign next to you while praying that says "I'm praying, please do not disturb.  I'll be finished in 10 minutes :)"

Does anyone else use this?

wasalaam,
Ahmed
Re: Odd man out at work?
tq
06/23/02 at 12:31:17
Assalamo elikuim

"...got an awesome idea from madina a while back- having a sign next to you while praying that says "I'm praying, please do not disturb.  I'll be finished in 10 minutes " Does anyone else use this? "

Yes, I used to put a a sign saying "Praying - ten minutes please"  when i used to pray at my work (before being laid off :) )


About socializing at work , what me and my husband do(did) is we usually take some cookies(nan khatai - they were hit at my work place), or cake, donuts once in a while . I never went out after work with any of my co-workers but did go out for lunch with some of  female co-workers couple of times(and i ma still friends with them :) and keep in touch with them through emails and cards) . Also my husband has never gone out after work with his co-workers except for one time and that was when he was new and everybody was going out to socialize with colleaues and they went to a bar . SO my husband told them that he cant  do this since he is muslim etc etc.  


Wasalam
tq
Re: Odd man out at work?
Kashif
06/23/02 at 18:34:15
assalaamu alaikum

tq - man this is weird. Just the other day, i was wondering where you and a host of other people from the old board had disappeared to, and masha'allah you posted. Its odd because stuff like this is happening all the time to me over the time. I think of a person who i haven't seen or heard from in ages, and then suddenly they just appear.

Anyhow, at work, i've explained to everyone that i'm not allowed to drink alcohol, to which they reply "well you can have an orange juice" so then i have to explain that i can't even sit at the same table where alcohol is served (at which point they say i can drink outside if i want to, hehe).

I work close to Brick Lane, so what i proposed is that me and some colleagues wander over there every two weeks or so and have a curry. Alhumdulillah, they agreed and its a regular occurrence now. I just thought it would be nice to socialise with colleagues outside the work environment.

Kashif
Wa Salaam
NS
Re: Odd man out at work?
BroHanif
06/23/02 at 19:09:18
[slm]

[quote]Do brothers or sisters interact with colleagues outside of work or after work hours just to 'hang out' with each other? Or do people just not want to mix with them any longer than the obligatory 9-5?! [/quote]
Seein mee work collegues for 8 hours is enough for me.  And as for the social circle well your right, everything revolves round alcohol. Another good point is when they see me beard they know this guy ain't gonna come drinking!.

Never been to Brick Lane curry houses maybe you can treat me to one when I'm down in London nx time. But question is how do you manage to escape the culture of curry and beer ????. Whenever my work mates go out (thats without me) to a curry house its gotta serve alchohol and papdoms.

Salaams

Hanif
Re: Odd man out at work?
Kashif
06/23/02 at 20:27:05
[quote author=BroHanif link=board=bebzi;num=1024614208;start=0#5 date=06/23/02 at 19:09:18]Never been to Brick Lane curry houses maybe you can treat me to one when I'm down in London nx time. But question is how do you manage to escape the culture of curry and beer ????. Whenever my work mates go out (thats without me) to a curry house its gotta serve alchohol and papdoms.[/quote]

assalaamu alaikum

Sure we can go to Brick Lane, but i'll take you to Ruby's on Ilford Lane.. their food, as they say is zabardast! *smile*

And how do i get round the prob of curry downed with beer? When i made the proposal i told them politely that i wouldn't be able to go if they drunk alcohol, and alhumdulillah they were ok with that.

My personal rule is that if you are in a situation where you need certain things in your environment, just ask politely: whether it is staying away from alcohol or pointing me in the direction of a prayer room, i've always found Brits accommodating alhumdulillah.

Also, one of the benefits is that the awareness you have raised about Muslim issues in your interaction with non-Muslims at work or other places will make it easier for the colleagues to be understanding of Muslim needs when other Muslims come on board in future years, insha'allah.

Kashif
Wa Salaam
NS
Re: Odd man out at work?
Barr
06/23/02 at 21:19:38
Assalamu'alaikum :-)

[quote]tq - man this is weird. Just the other day, i was wondering where you and a host of other people from the old board had disappeared to, and masha'allah you posted. Its odd because stuff like this is happening all the time to me over the time. I think of a person who i haven't seen or heard from in ages, and then suddenly they just appear. [/quote]

MashaAllah :) It's called the relationship of the ruh (spirit). The relationship that knows no physical boundaries... strengthened by making dua for each other... though none of us may have met in real life, but each of our spirits met here...  there is no relationship that is stronger and close than the spiritual relationship.

OK, I could go on and on and on... but I would be hijacking the thread, then ;)

[center][i]Allahumma allif bayna qulubina...
O Allah place unity between our hearts ( A rough translation) [/i][/center]

Wassalam :-)
Re: Odd man out at work?
BrKhalid
06/24/02 at 07:31:16
Asalaamu Alaikum ;-)

Another point with work colleagues is the degree which you can influence (or be noticed) in a non work environment.

With superiors, for example, it is a lot harder to guide the discussion to places you want to go and end up following a discussion on who knows what.

Hence, in that situation, it is probably far better letting them know in advance you won't be able to attend.


Like Br Kashif said, the Brits tend to be a tolerant bunch in that respect.

Re: Odd man out at work?
tq
06/24/02 at 15:04:17
Assalamo elikuim

" tq - man this is weird. Just the other day, i was wondering where you and a host of other people from the old board had disappeared to, and masha'allah you posted"

WOW! Jazak allah khair for thinking - i didnt knwo that board member know me :)

Wasalam
tq


PS: I am about to leave for CA (visiting my parents) kind of nervous(cause of extra extra checking at airports fro hijabis) please pray for me that the travelling and everything goes OK. I never consider my self addict my husband is putting suitcase in the car and here i am checking board :)


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