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| US Bombs Afghan Wedding |
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| yunus |
| 07/01/02 at 20:50:36 |
Reports from Afghanistan say the United States air force has mistakenly bombed a village wedding party, killing many of the guests. A witness from the village, in Uruzgan province, told the BBC the overnight raid left scores of people - many of them women - dead. Afghan officials in the capital, Kabul, put the death toll at at least 30, although other reports say the figure is much higher. At least one bomb was errant, we don't know where it fell US military spokesman In Washington, a military spokesman said a coalition air reconnaissance patrol flying in the area had reported coming under anti-aircraft artillery fire. The Pentagon said aircraft took retaliatory action as well as targeting other sites that had been identified earlier. It said several legitimate ground targets were hit, including the anti-aircraft artillery sites that had been firing. Mistake admitted But a spokesman admitted there had been a mistake and an investigation has been launched. "At least one bomb was errant. We don't know where it fell," he said. An AC-130 gunship, a B-52 bomber and other aircraft were involved in the incident. Some reports suggest that the American planes may have mistaken gunfiring at the wedding for hostile fire aimed at them. Afghans often fire guns in the air during weddings and other celebrations. The village hit is in the same area as the ancestral home of Mullah Mohammed Omar, leader of the vanquished Taleban. A US military spokesman added that four injured civilians had been airlifted to hospital by US forces. 'Compatriots martyred' There are no Taleban or al-Qaeda or Arabs here - these people were all civilians, women and children Villager Abdul Saboor Afghan leader Hamid Karzai said aid was being organised for the area and a commission had been set up to investigate the incident. "We have learned with regret that a number of our compatriots have been martyred and injured as a result of accidental bombing in Dehrawad district, Uruzgan province," he said. An official from the province told the AFP news agency that he had been told at least 40 people were dead and another 60 or 70 wounded. He added: "It was a wedding party in which some people were firing in jubilation and the Americans misunderstood and bombarded the place." Survivors from the bombing said more than 120 people were killed or wounded. A survivor said victims had to wait many hours before help arrived A resident from the bombed area, Abdul Saboor, told the BBC: "There was no-one to help last night. "We managed to transfer some of the wounded to Kandahar in the morning. Some of the foreigners' choppers also came to help. "There are no Taleban or al-Qaeda or Arabs here. These people were all civilians, women and children." At the Mir Wais hospital in Kandahar, staff said they had been told most of the dead were women and children. Nurse Mohammed Nadir said: "The villagers brought these children and they have no parents. "Everyone says that their parents are dead." One six-year-old girl was brought to the hospital still wearing her party dress. She was injured, and villagers said all members of her family were killed. Targeting errors US forces operating in Afghanistan have made a number of errors during the campaign against the Taleban and al-Qaeda forces. The attack was carried out by a force including AC-130 gunships and B-52 bombers Four Canadian soldiers were killed in April when a US fighter bombed them by mistake during a training exercise. In January, US bombs killed civilians in the village of Hazar Qadam, targeted as a Taleban compound. In December, planes bombed a convoy from the eastern town of Khost, killing people Mr Karzai said were tribal elders travelling for his inauguration. Last October, a targeting error led to a bomb hitting a residential area of Kabul, instead of a helicopter at the airport. |
| Re: crash course in afghan culture |
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| jaihoon |
| 07/03/02 at 15:50:12 |
| [quote]"It was a wedding party in which some people were firing in jubilation and the Americans misunderstood and bombarded the place." [/quote] :D The US troops shuld have a taken a crash course in Afghan culture before going committing such embarassing blunders. |
| 07/03/02 at 15:54:20 |
| jaihoon |
| Re: US Bombs Afghan Wedding |
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| mwishka |
| 07/04/02 at 12:12:22 |
| from what i've read and heard in interviews, lots of afghan tribes also fire into the air when a child is born. (well, i think it's traditionally more specifically a male child - but i'm going to guess that not everyone so strictly discriminates their joy at having a child by its gender..) and their are lots of other rural cultures all over the world where guns are an everyday part of life (as in traditionally a necessity of life) where gunfire is a usual part of celebrations. including....the old US west and i'll bet many places STILL in the US. this is called poor military training, combined with unqualified commanders at the site of the decision-making. a military pawn/employee/soldier/automaton in the field who can't differentiate between hand weapon fire and the fire of ammunition from mounted anti-aircraft artillery should be "disconnected", in the language of androids, until he can be removed from the field of "battle" to a safer location, where he can do no harm --- and doesn't have to think or make any real decisions. say, that kind of sounds like someone ready for a job in the US congress or white house. in fact, i wonder if they all really have disconnect switches? maybe we could somehow just sneak in and turn them all off at once....? but you know where he's going to end up, when they finally get him out of there? delivering your mail. (i once wrote here somewhere that all veterans get about 20 points added to their "postal delivery carrier" exams, so every time there's a test, the people who get the jobs are all ex-military - very damaged people, in lots of cases). in the US we've already been through all those vietnam vets fighting viet cong in their post office places of employment (i.e., shooting down their fellow employees, usually because they got fired because they weren't quite sane --- and who could be after being in the war hell of vietnam??), guess we better start expecting the next couple of waves of shoot-outs at the PO corral..... mwishka |
| Re: US Bombs Afghan Wedding |
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| Aurora |
| 07/06/02 at 23:24:59 |
| [quote author=mwishka link=board=ummah;num=1025571036;start=0#2 date=07/04/02 at 12:12:22]from what i've read and heard in interviews, lots of afghan tribes also fire into the air when a child is born. (well, i think it's traditionally more specifically a male child - but i'm going to guess that not everyone so strictly discriminates their joy at having a child by its gender..)[/quote] Firing into the air is considered customary at times of celebration, weddings, births (male and female - if that particular family believes the birth of a female is cause for celebration) and the like. Its a cultural thing, but not necessarily an 'afghan thing' but a pashtun thing, stemming from the fact that the gun is so intricately embedded in their way of life. |
| Re: US Bombs Afghan Wedding |
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| Aurora |
| 07/06/02 at 23:27:32 |
| ps. Jaihoon, forgive me I dont mean to be sarcastic. But its nothing to smile about. Sure its embarassing for the Americans, yet again revealing their ignorance and stupidity to the world. But its also a tragedy, I'd rather there had been no 'mistake' at all. My heart bleeds for these people. |
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