A R C H I V E S
Madinat al-Muslimeen Islamic Message Board
| Women cause 50% of accidents |
|---|
| jaihoon |
| 07/19/02 at 23:20:03 |
| Women cause 50% of accidents By a Staff Writer, arabnews.com JEDDAH, 20 July — Female pedestrians cause 50 percent of road accidents in the Kingdom, according to a study conducted by Dr. Fahd Turkistani of Umm Al-Qura University. "Most women cross roads without considering the speed of incoming vehicles," Turkistani told Al-Riyadh newspaper, adding that they included schoolgirls and women going for shopping. Turkistani pointed out that some women, who travel in luxury cars driven by their servants, cause accidents by giving sudden orders to the driver to turn right or left without any regard to traffic regulations. "Some women tell limousine drivers to stop abruptly when they see, say an attractive dress at a shopping center," he said. Such behavior leads to accidents. The study pointed out that women caused some of the road accidents by suddenly getting out of the car, unmindful of incoming vehicles. "They also tell their drivers to stop the car by the road to purchase something from street vendors. This is another violation of traffic rules," he added. "Sometimes women get into long arguments with their husbands who drive the cars. The husband then loses his concentration and gets involved in accidents," he pointed out. Turkistani emphasized the need for educating women about traffic rules in order to avoid such accidents. Meanwhile, six people died in three road accidents on the Riyadh Expressway on Thursday. The bodies of the victims are kept at Afeef Hospital. "Five of the victims died before reaching the hospital," Ahmad Al-Mahbadly, director of the hospital, told Arab News. The hospital treated 10 members of a family who were injured in another accident the same day in Afif. ::) |
| Re: Women cause 50% of accidents |
|---|
| Taalibatul_ilm |
| 07/20/02 at 00:49:15 |
| [slm] Interesting study, if women supposedly cause 50% of the accidents, then which gender causes the other 50? |
| Re: Women cause 50% of accidents |
|---|
| dirt |
| 07/20/02 at 03:25:43 |
| [slm] This can't possibly be a serious article... [wlm] |
| Re: Women cause 50% of accidents |
|---|
| nouha |
| 07/20/02 at 10:06:54 |
| [slm] excuse my rudeness, but this was stupid, just like talibul ilm said, if its fifty for the women its fifty for the men, why not an article on them?? wasalam nouha:) |
| Re: Women cause 50% of accidents |
|---|
| Kathy |
| 07/20/02 at 10:20:50 |
| Ha ha ha! Let's look at the figures according to the study.... 50% of men cause accidents. The other~25% are caused by the male drivers who actually make the abrubt stops in their cars! The article keeps refering to the woman...but it is really the men that are driving and getting into accidents! |
| Re: Women cause 50% of accidents |
|---|
| hanna |
| 07/20/02 at 10:26:04 |
| i have spent coniderable time in the kingdom ..and all i can say is that though women sometimes do tend to behave the way they said ...but that is no reason to put all the blame on one gender ..after all its the male driving ..... just read the lines again .....males drive ...and females cause the accidents ....pretty stupid ...... |
| Re: Women cause 50% of accidents |
|---|
| ahmer |
| 07/20/02 at 11:53:49 |
i agree with hanna.. in saudia most accidents are caused by men driving their mercs,audis, buicks, etc like crazy on highways at speeds of 100 mph +, so many people are killed on saudi highways!!! it's just sadddd.. like if you compare with the population it's just sadddddd.. almost all of the accidents are high speed crashes, and also keep in mind the way saudi universities do studies!!! :o :o this was a pathetic study, no stats or anything. btw you have to keep in mind the culture of saudi newspapers, with little space to breathe and little to talk about, they come up with these stupid stories from time to time!! to them the royal family is their world!! [wlm] ahmer p.s: while as a kid i luved arabnews for its different green cover page..lol.. i always opened the last section where the local soccer league scores were listed.. oops..!! nostalgia creepin in.. me out..peace..:) |
| Re: Women cause 50% of accidents |
|---|
| mwishka |
| 07/20/02 at 13:23:03 |
| wow, i can't believe it - i leave my house for an hour, no time to reply to this, and now there are 500,000 replies --hee heee that's great! so, what i have to say starts sort of where taalibatul ilm started: 50% women? but um, ok, let's look at that 50%... (oh, with a note to bro dirt: sadly, a real article, called "news"..... :() ok, 50% female PEDESTRIANS. now, in this article either those pedestrians are the ones mentioned in the first two sentences, or there is some confusion about the literal definition of pedestrian. as used here, it would indicate "traveling on foot". so, do the study results actually end after the mention of the women and girls who (yeah, sure, like i believe this... :P) do not have an ability to assess vehicle rate of speed - apparently - and so endanger themselves and others by this inability...? ::) (is it.....an INHERENT INability? oh no!) so is everything beyond the second sentence of this article just speculation on the part of the "researcher", since none of it is indicated as being part of the study AS IT WAS CONDUCTED?? but, that brings up the question.......is there an arabic to english translation problem here? are the women who (yeah, uh huh, i believe this, too... ::)) give orders to mindless fools (i guess) to do stupid things like turn suddenly to "shop" (uh huh and i believe this - a lovely dress? worth my life and yours, i'd say..), or "suddenly getting out of their car" - i mean is that like......at full speed just kind of opening the door and 'alighting gently and gracefully' onto the pavement, :D and are all THESE women considered to be PEDESTRIANS?? velly intelesting.... now, those husbands....mmmm....if a man were to shoot his wife because she was "arguing" with him, is SHE responsible? but, in these cars, were they even arguments? did any of the women even start them if they were? WHO reported these incidents to the researchers, eh? hmmm...how WERE the studies conducted? hmmm....maybe by questioning only male PEDESTRIANS?? hee hee heeee maybe...ummm...male pedestrians on.....um.......horseback?? (that's going by foot, no?) ok, back to the serious concerns here. if we have a report of 50% of automobile accidents being caused by women IN WHICH THEY WERE NOT EVEN DRIVERS, well, then, great gravy! take the simple route to a solution, LICENSE those women, put them on the road, and have a reduction in traffic accidents of 50% -- immediate and guaranteed!! :D and, it seems, as the numbers of women drivers supplant the numbers of those male drivers having all the accidents, the rate would drop even further. wish ALL problems of all societies had such easy solutions!! ;) mwishka (who's never had an accident and hopes to continue her years on the road in such a manner....) |
| Re: Women cause 50% of accidents |
|---|
| dirt |
| 07/20/02 at 13:53:10 |
| [slm] I feel the only way to express the way I feel about this article is by way of the smiley. Observe... [img]http://www.smiley-bomb.de/gemischt3/14.gif[/img] [img]http://www.smiley-bomb.de/gemischt2/23.gif[/img] [wlm] |
| Re: Women cause 50% of accidents |
|---|
| hanna |
| 07/20/02 at 14:19:26 |
| bro dirt ur smiley is really cute .. how do u make all these smileys?? is there some option on the board which im unaware off ...i thought the ones that come on top when u write a message are the only smileys .....!! |
| Re: Women cause 50% of accidents |
|---|
| dirt |
| 07/20/02 at 14:35:58 |
| [slm] Oh no! They're after my smilies again! [img]http://www.jordysworld.de/emoticons/div24.gif"[/img] [wlm] |
| Re: Women cause 50% of accidents |
|---|
| jannah |
| 07/21/02 at 04:10:02 |
| ummmm ... maybe if they actually let women drive in saudi and stuff they wouldn't be so ignorant about the traffic laws.. just a thought... hmmmmmmmmm ??? ??? |
| 07/21/02 at 04:10:26 |
| jannah |
| Re: Women cause 50% of accidents |
|---|
| theOriginal |
| 07/22/02 at 09:51:03 |
| [slm] Nice article. lol. Is it only Saudi, though? (Like bro. Ahmer, my nostalgia creeps in at this point...and you know what's funny, the green cover was the first thing that I thought of too :) ) But jokes come up for a reason, and although I AM female, I sometimes have to pay heed to my older brother who tells me that he wouldn't let me drive, even if I were the last person around to take him to EMERG after a heart attack. (To which I normally reply, the shock might actually be beneficial to his MI??!!) I'm not saying I'm a general representation of womanhood, especially when it comes to driving. But you have to wonder where all them jokes start from. As for pedestrians in Saudi. Regardless of whether they are male or female...the entire population seems to be devoid of an intuition of the possibility of death in the case that they CRASH into a car going at the aforementioned 100mph. Anyway, it's an interesting viewpoint, and as with all stories, there are 3 sides: mine, yours, and the truth. [wlm] SF. |
| Re: Women cause 50% of accidents |
|---|
| ahmer |
| 07/25/02 at 08:35:15 |
i found this comment on the article in the arabnews 'letters to the editor' :) sums up the view nicely.. ------------ Traffic accidents According to a report published by you, women cause 50 percent of the traffic accidents in the Kingdom. That seems logical, since women make up 50 percent of the population. Obviously, the other 50 percent are caused by men. Everyone needs to be more careful when crossing the street. However, blaming women is just a cover-up to hide the real truth that men drivers are still ultimately responsible for controlling the vehicles they drive. If they would lower their speed and drive responsibly and defensibly, then the rate of accidents in Saudi Arabia would diminish considerably. Blame whomever you want, but who is behind the wheel, controlling the vehicle? The men are. Stop looking for others to blame when the responsibility lies with you. Mimi Wixted, Dammam published 25 July 2002 |
| Re: Women cause 50% of accidents |
|---|
| bhaloo |
| 07/25/02 at 09:31:51 |
| [slm] [quote] I'm not saying I'm a general representation of womanhood, especially when it comes to driving. But you have to wonder where all them jokes start from. [/quote] You should hear some of the stories that some of the members have shared about their driving experiences. I think it was Se7en that was learning to drive and once the car was on and she was behind the wheel and decided to jump out while the car was on and in drive. Or another sister that kept hitting trash cans. Although there are all these stories about women driving badly, if you ask the insurance company they will tell you women's rates are lower cause they are better drivers. But I don't buy that. :P As for the article about women causing 50% of accidents, well its probably cause the men are busy looking at them instead of focusing on driving. I've seen accidents like that happen out here. So its actually the men's fault. |
| Re: Women cause 50% of accidents |
|---|
| mwishka |
| 07/25/02 at 10:36:43 |
| ok, i'm only willing to say a few sentences about this subject (and anyway, i try to be sure abu hamza's around for any of these "female-male" activity/behavior/ability "discussions", and he's not, so i have that additional limit.... :D) Although there are all these stories about women driving badly, if you ask the insurance company they will tell you women's rates are lower cause they are better drivers. But I don't buy that. we can't account for the, um, peculiar behavior of the women drivers you mentioned (sis seven, we now know who in your family SHOULD have been referred to as foofy-headed, and, um it don't seem to be your brother.... ;)), but there is no evidence that either men or women are BETTER drivers, only that men are involved in more accidents. in fact, the best drivers are of both genders. (no references - pure reason and logic.) here, though is my fictitious account of why women might 'appear' to be the better drivers. it has to do with what influences them while driving, what they base their decisions on. she: "hold on!" as she throws her arm across her husband's chest to protect him from flying forward as she jams on her brakes to avoid hitting the car in front of her. (hee heee such an automatic response - haven't all of us done this for our passengers when we have to compensate for some ridiculous driving behavior that could have involved us in an accident? hmmmm...or do only women do this? eek...better watch out...) he: "why did you slam on your brakes?! i could have been hurt! now everyone is looking at us! why didn't you just hit that car?" she: "i could see that i had time to stop before the back of that car if i acted quickly, i didn't have time to warn you. you were busy trying to argue with me and i i was watching the road - you didn't see that car come shooting out from that side street." (ok, a little razzing here, i admit it...) as they sit there about to start up again, a car from behind them goes around them. the male driver smiles and waves. the husband imagines that that he's pointing and laughing, as if to say "ha ha, you're only the pasesenger, and THAT'S your woman? hee heee i feel sorry for you...", while in reality he's smiling because the wife's quick action just prevented a 5 (no no...um 75! hee heee) car pile-up. i can't even begin to count the numbers of times i've driven past some car on the highway (yes, i tend to be a left-lane all the way driver, mostly because on the highways around here the right lane has been destroyed by heavy truck traffic, as it should be, sort of), and if the driver is a male, no matter his age, young old middle-aged, and no matter how content he was with his speed up to that moment, even if he was peacefully driving well below the speed limit while traveling with his wife and children on a leisurely outing, the SECOND he sees that a woman just passed him, he will floor it until he can catch me, pass me, pull in in fromt of me, and then frequently drift back down to his "chatting with family speed" and i'll have to get around him again, whereupon we replay the whole scene. male drivers like this - i go for broke and get MILES ahead of them to avoid their dangerous behavior. i have NEVER, not once, had a woman exhibit this dangerous competitive behavior while driving. and i have never been dangerously tailgated by a female driver UNLESS there is a male passenger in the car with her. to me driving is a VERY serious activity, not to be taken lightly, not a game or sport (except on closed tracks), not something to do while you do a million other things -- i don't care to be hurtling down the highway at high rates of speed in 4000 pounds of steel and have to think that i'm on the raod with other drivers who carry the games of their life into their driving. and i'm just telling this as it affects me - i'm not directing any personal criticism here. personally, i'd like to see the tickets for not using directionals and tailgating to be $1 billion dollars (hee hee heeeee), and i think it would only affect all the bad drivers. hopefully they'd change their overall driving habits in a flash. and i think driver's education doesn't emphasize physics and calculus enough --- and no, i'm not kidding. if our school-age new drivers aren't being taught properly the application of basic simple ideas into their daily lives, what kind of an education are they getting?? how can we expect a driver to make informed choices on the road if all they know about what they're engaging in is that this is the accelerator - oh no, i mean "the gas pedal" (what's that funny word "acceleration?"), and this is the brake, and for some, this is the clutch....?? mwishka |
| 07/25/02 at 10:40:14 |
| mwishka |
| Re: Women cause 50% of accidents |
|---|
| Kashif |
| 07/26/02 at 05:16:49 |
| assalaamu alaikum All i can say is that if women are causing 50% of road accidents in a country in which they're not allowed to drive, can you imagine how high that figure would be if they were then allowed to drive in that country? Whoa.. Frightening thought. Kashif Wa Salaam |
| NS |
| 07/26/02 at 05:18:46 |
| Kashif |
| Re: Women cause 50% of accidents |
|---|
| WhatDFish |
| 07/26/02 at 07:15:25 |
| haha lol, good one. while i must say that article is biased, and it made me laff, i say women cant drive and saudi is doin a whole lot of good not allowin women to drive, no?? :D ;D :-/ ok i know im goin to lined up for the firing squad by the sisters for sayin that. cheers! |
| Re: Women cause 50% of accidents |
|---|
| jaihoon |
| 07/29/02 at 00:10:57 |
| [quote author=Kashif link=board=bebzi;num=1027135203;start=15#16 date=07/26/02 at 05:16:49]assalaamu alaikum All i can say is that if women are causing 50% of road accidents in a country in which they're not allowed to drive, can you imagine how high that figure would be if they were then allowed to drive in that country? Whoa.. Frightening thought. Kashif Wa Salaam[/quote] :D good one bro |
| NS |
| 07/29/02 at 00:13:04 |
| jaihoon |
| Re: Women cause 50% of accidents |
|---|
| Aabidah |
| 07/29/02 at 01:26:44 |
| [slm] :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) SISTERS IN DEFENSE MODE!!!!! [quote] All i can say is that if women are causing 50% of road accidents in a country in which they're not allowed to drive, can you imagine how high that figure would be if they were then allowed to drive in that country? Whoa.. Frightening thought. Kashif Wa Salaam [/quote] Kashif, are you serious about this comment or just being sarcastic? Ya know, if the WOMEN were ALLOWED to drive, they'd know how to control themselves unlike the MEN. As ahmer, a ;-), so nicely put it: [quote] in saudia most accidents are caused by men driving their mercs,audis, buicks, etc like crazy on highways at speeds of 100 mph +, so many people are killed on saudi highways!!! [/quote] POINT PROVEN!!! [wlm] :-) Betul ;D |
| Re: Women cause 50% of accidents |
|---|
| Aabidah |
| 07/29/02 at 01:36:23 |
| [slm] Forgot to add: [quote] while i must say that article is biased, and it made me laff, i say women cant drive and saudi is doin a whole lot of good not allowin women to drive, no?? ok i know im goin to lined up for the firing squad by the sisters for sayin that. cheers! [/quote] you better believe it, 'Uthmaan!!! Where's mujaahid's artillery when we need it ;) :-/ My brother drives like he's crazy, zooming through inside streets at 70 mph. Bro, don't deny it, you know it's true ;) ;D Just to let you know that men, b/c of their *crazy* (no offense to the ;-)'s) driving, they *hit* more pedestrians. Just the probability of it being two genders, gives 50% each. POINT PROVEN!! AGAIN!!! ;D [wlm] :-) Betul |
Madinat al-Muslimeen Islamic Message Board |