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Is one held Accountable Too?!?!
deenb4dunya
07/20/02 at 22:33:55
Salam All; Say someone babysits some children of a relative once a week, while that relative goes out with his wife to a movie. Since you are helping that relative do/ see haram (movie), would u share in the dhunoob of the individual? Whar if u know that if u dont care for the child, someone else most probably will? What do u guys think? PLease back up your opinions witrh quraan and sunnah (if possible ;) Jazaakum Allahu Khayran. Deen

Re: Is one held Accountable Too?!?!
mwishka
07/21/02 at 14:09:01
sis deen, since i see that you've kind of been left hanging here with no replies to help you out, i'm hoping that if i reply others will then join in with, um answers more like what you're looking for...as in "backed by proof"....  (i hope this works..... ;))  i can't answer at all the dhunoob part of the question, as i'm sure you know.... my opinion would be that if you feel that your actions are contributing to someone else partaking of an activity that is haram, it seems your best choice would be to remove yourself from this chain of actions.  whether or not someone else would take your place caring for these children and facilitate these parents being able to continue this activity seems to me to be completely beside the point in your own considerations. i would suggest that you become unavailable to them for child care under these conditions, which would allow you to feel comfortable within yourself.  of course, my suggestion is based on very little information, and there might be lots of considerations here that i don't know about - like creating conflict in the family, etc.         to help you deal personally with those aspects of it, i think you'll have to wait for someone to give you a more substantiated answer than i could ever give. and, of course, you might be best off taking this question directly to your imam, who could advise you more completely and accurately. i hope you find a way to an answer. mwishka
07/21/02 at 14:11:23
mwishka

Re: Is one held Accountable Too?!?!
deenb4dunya
07/21/02 at 20:27:42
Jazakum Allahu Khayran for responding :-*...where's the rest of the board??? >:( :(

Re: Is one held Accountable Too?!?!
Kareema_Abdul-Khab
07/22/02 at 03:07:25
I think the reason you didn't get many replies is because.... people think you are talking about all movies as haram Many of us(me included) watch and LIKE movies.  A LOT.  So the idea of our babysitter saying she's not going to watch the kiddies while we do our haram together doesn't rub too well. Maybe you could compromise, if they just want time out from the children, a chance to destress, why not an islamic Lecture, a trip to a nice restaurant, a visit to friends or something? On the other hand, if they can't get by with seeing no movie what so the ever, and have another babysitter waiting in the wings, then I wouldn't recommend that you do something you feel uncomfortable with. I don't think the idea that they will be able to find someone else applies, anyone can make that arguement.You will be answerable to Allah ta'ala for what you do, not what other people decide to do . Sorry that there arent' any proofs from Quran or Sunnah, hope this helped :-)

Re: Is one held Accountable Too?!?!
bhaloo
07/22/02 at 09:41:10
[slm] If someone is doing something haraam (and I'm not saying the parents are doing haraam, but if they are..) and you know about it, and cooperate with them are you not helping them to sin? Yusuf Ali's translation: Quran 5:2 ....Help ye one another in righteousness and piety but help ye not one another in sin and rancor: fear Allah: for Allah is strict in punishment. I came across a similiar concept on islam-qa.com, although it was for something differrent. Question: A person bought a “digital receiver”, but the issue here is not whether buying this equipment is permissible. It came with a card for cracking the codes blocking access to permissive channels. Is it permissible for him to sell it, knowing that the purchaser has stipulated the condition that he be allowed to buy the card along with the equipment? Answer: Praise be to Allaah.   Everything that is used in a haraam manner, it is not permissible to sell it. It is not permissible to buy or sell this equipment, or to give it as a gift, because doing so is helping another to see haraam things and commit immoral actions – Allaah forbid. It involves cooperating in the evil which Islam came to forbid. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “but do not help one another in sin and transgression” [al-Maa’idah 5:2] What he has to do is to destroy that haraam equipment which is one of the greatest means of spreading corruption and immorality in society. Whoever works to spread this equipment is subject to the warning of Allaah. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Verily, those who like that (the crime of) illegal sexual intercourse should be propagated among those who believe, they will have a painful torment in this world and in the Hereafter” [al-Noor 24:19] The questioner and all Muslims should realize that whoever helps to spread corruption by facilitating its ways and means will carry the sin of everyone who deviates and is affected because of that. It is an ongoing evil deed which may continue even after he dies. This is a serious matter to which we must pay attention. The one who tells others to do good is like the one who does it, and the one who tells others to do evil is like the one who does it. It was narrated that Jareer ibn ‘Abd-Allaah said: “Some Bedouin people came to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) wearing wool, and he saw that they were in a bad state and in need. He encouraged the people to give charity to them but they were too slow in responding, until it could be seen in his face (that he was upset). Then a man from among the Ansaar brought a purse of silver, then another came, then people came one after another, until signs of happiness could be seen on the Prophet’s face. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Whoever starts something good in Islam and others do it after him, there will be recorded for him a reward equal to that of those who do it, without that detracting from their reward in the slightest. And whoever starts something bad in Islam and others do it after him, there will be recorded for him a burden of sin equal to that of those who do it, without that detracting from their burden in the slightest.’” (Narrated by Muslim) Al-Nawawi said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, ‘Whoever starts something good…’ and ‘whoever starts something bad…’ According to another hadeeth he said, ‘Whoever promotes guidance…’ and ‘whoever promotes misguidance…’ These two ahaadeeth clearly state that it is mustahabb to start good things and that it is forbidden to start bad things. Whoever starts a good thing will have a reward equal to that of everyone who does it until the Day of Resurrection, and whoever starts a bad thing will have a burden of sin equal to that of everyone who does it until the Day of Resurrection; whoever promotes guidance will have a reward equal to that of those who follow him, and whoever promotes misguidance will have a burden of sin equal to that of those who follow him – regardless of whether that guidance or misguidance is something that he initiated or that someone else started before him, and whether that is done by teaching knowledge, or it is an act or worship, or some kind of etiquette, or something else. The words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), ‘and others do it after him’ refer to when a person starts something, whether others do it after him during his own lifetime or after his death. And Allaah knows best.” (Sharh Muslim, 16/226-227) he fourth or fifth.(See Fath al-Baari, 9/578) This applies if a person is eating with his hand. But there is nothing wrong with using a spoon etc, as we shall see below. 7 – Eating a piece of food that falls on the floor. If a piece of food falls on the floor, then the person eating should remove any dirt that gets onto it and eat it; he should not leave it for the Shaytaan, because he does not know where the blessing is in his food; it may be in the piece that fell, and leaving it makes a person miss out on the blessing of the food. Anas ibn Maalik narrated that when the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) ate, he would lick his three fingers. Anas said: “And he said, ‘If any one of you drops a piece of food, let him remove any dirt from it and eat it, and not leave it for the Shaytaan.’ And he commanded us to clean the plate, and said, ‘For you do not know where in your food the blessing is.’” (Narrated by Muslim, 2034). 8 – Not reclining whilst eating. Thable>