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Fatimah
08/01/02 at 19:07:02
salam alaikum,
I was just wondering what the sisters thought of this article I came across.. I didnt really know what to think of it..if its a good thing or bad thing. Do you think it would promote immodesty?
I was thinking it would be nice to not have to wear hijab all day, since there wouldnt be any men/boys around..But then again, wearing hijab makes it a nice islamic environment where you dont have to compete in dress...
What do you think?


Tehran schoolgirls shed the veil

Girls in Tehran are to be allowed to lift their veils and exchange their black robes for less restrictive, more colourful clothing while at school for the first time in over 20 years.
The education ministry issued the directive, which asks 20 schools in the Iranian capital not to force girls to adopt the strict Islamic dress code
But the country's hard-line religious constituency is harshly critical of the trial and it is not yet certain whether the code will be implemented in conservative provincial towns if it is extended beyond Tehran.
Iranian women have been forced to wear the veil since 1979, when the pro-Western Shah was toppled and the deeply conservative Shi'ite Muslim clergy came to power.
But their conservatism is now being challenged by the more permissive policies of reformist President Mohammad Khatami, first elected in May 1997.
Strict rules
The clothing scheme was first piloted two years ago in the city of Karaj, some 30 miles (50km) west of Tehran.
Iranian women usually have to wear a hood, covering the hair, neck and ears, and a robe, from shoulder to ankle.
Some, from more religious families, also wear a chador, a combination head covering, veil and shawl.
More secular women have complained the heavy outfits are oppressive and can cause hair loss, skin rashes and even depression.
In schools - which are all single sex in Iran - they may restrict girls' ability to play sports.
Divided opinion
Mitra, a mother of two children, welcomed the scheme.
"My daughter is eight years old and, because of wearing the headscarf, she suffers from alopecia. She is also depressed."
But some have fiercely rejected the plan.
The scheme will "weaken Islamic values and spread a culture of nudity," the Jomhuri-Eslami paper complained on Thursday.
Hassan Emadi, a rug merchant in Tehran's bazaar, said: "I was hoping that my daughters were growing up in a moral atmosphere. Now they will only think about their appearance and how best to look like this or that rock or movie star."
To appease opposition, school authorities have agreed to install one-way tinted school windows and keep male visitors in separate, distant rooms.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2166958.stm
Re: what do you think?
jannah
08/02/02 at 03:50:31
Umm...you can tell this is an article written from a Western point of view because they have no idea what they're saying.

In most Muslim countries they have alot of separate facilities for women. Girls and women take OFF their hijabs when at home, when in their backyards, when swimming at the woman only beaches etc etc... there is NO health hazard... sheesh

The main objective of this article is to link hijab with depression and illness, which is pretty riduculous. I think if the girls' are 13 they should wear hijab to school.. and perhaps in some classes like gym they can take it off...



Re: what do you think?
Fatimah
08/02/02 at 06:04:11
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Yes, this article was written from a western view point, trying to link hijab with oppression/illness, You can tell by the words used and what was brought up. And of coarse hijab doesnt cause health issues. Thanks for pointing that out, so no one believes it or gets confused. :)
I posted this article because I was interested in knowing what everyone thinks would be better. Wearing the hijab in an all girls school or letting them take it off since no men/boys would be around..

Age 13 would be a good age to have them wear hijab to school, but I also think maybe a little younger would be better. Some of these kids nowadays look 15-16 when they are really only 11-12.  :(
08/02/02 at 06:04:51
Fatimah
Re: what do you think?
BUSHRA
08/02/02 at 08:16:11
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well, the article is written from a western point of view and does *link* hijab with depression and illness :P, but as a :-) and as a girl who has grown up in saudi arabia and gone to school with a head scarf and an abaya since 9 I do see the point.
Since the school is an all girl's school with teachers and other employees all being women , I do not see the need to wear a headscarf within the school perimeters.
 Growing up in a country where the climate is very hot and tempratures sore upto 50 centigrades it would have been very uncomfortable if we were made to where the abaya in the playground while participating in sports or  other strenous activities ::)(which we were not).
 Also I personally find the comments of parents who say "this scheme will weaken the islamic value and spread the culture of nudity" , a bit harsh.

Alhamdolillah , I had parents who always explained things to me and never imposed their views but I have had friends and many classmates who had very strict parents and as a way of rebelling against them , the girls would end up sneaking behind their parent's backs.
Example: At 14 or 15 most girls will start to wear makeup  (which is ok as long as it is not displayed in front of nonmehrams and  is not made from impure products), but I have seen some fathers forbid their daughters from putting even a mascara on and in the end the girls will come to school in a very simple look rush to the bathroom put loads of makeup on and at the end of school give their faces a good scrub before stepping out :(.

My point :HAYA(modesty ) is a branch of faith  but I do not see the need to force it upon people rather it should come in a way when people embrace it with open hearts. Their is no compulsion in Islam as ALLAH has perfected it for all eternity and their is certainly nothing in wrong in women/girls adorning themselves in the company of other muslimahs and their mehrams.
Afterall their are several ahadith indicating that the first generation of muslimahs used to adorn themselves within  the permissible perimeters...................why should this generation miss out?


If I said anything wrong please correct and forgive me,
and as always ALLAH KNOWS BEST.

BUSHRA :-)  
Re: what do you think?
BUSHRA
08/02/02 at 08:29:14
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After reading my own post I realized I went off a tangent,  ::) I tend to do that when trying to get a point across (like now :-X)  but anyway , as for the question:



[quote author=truthfinder link=board=sis;num=1028243222;start=0#2 date=08/02/02 at 06:04:11] [slm]
I posted this article because I was interested in knowing what everyone thinks would be better. Wearing the hijab in an all girls school or letting them take it off since no men/boys would be around..

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I think they should be able to take it  :-)off if they want to provided that they are in an all girl's school and if all the teachers and assisstants are women :)

BUSHRA :-)
Re: what do you think?
AyeshaZ
08/02/02 at 11:42:34


Asalamu Alykum,

hmm I personally like the idea of  everyone wearing the same attire in school :) However, i mean if its all girls maybe during the Qur'an class or Religion class the sisters can wear hijab and in gym and lunch take it off . :) :-)  


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