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A question for urdu speakers....(&german)
jannah
10/19/02 at 03:36:46
got this question in email.. if anyone has a response pls post it (IN URDU :P) and i'll send it to him inshallah

he's asking about adoption of children and using somene else's ovaries...but i just don't have the language to explain everything to him... so calling all experts... :)

A,o.a.
maa aap se question hain ka agher kise ka baby nahe hota ya yoo keh le ka us ka ha Allah ke raza se nahe ho sakta to
wo baby goed la sakta hain is maa koeyislamic point se koey problem to nahe .
mera dosra question ya hain ka aj kal kise ka baby hone wala hota hain kise lady ka . jub us ka phla month hota hain to koey dosre lady us baby ko sarjre se apni ovre yani pate maa rakha walati hain keya ya theek hain islami lahaz se .
Dr  kety hain jase aap kise ka baby apni ghar maa rakhty hain ise tarha aap baby ko apne pate maa rakhty hain is lia ya gunahe nahe.
aap  se derkhusat hain ka is ka answer jaldi dejay ga .
mujhy intazar rahe ga .
thanks
10/22/02 at 14:28:55
jannah
Re: A question for urdu speakers....
Abu_Hamza
10/20/02 at 00:37:31
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Pehlay sawal ka jawab yeh hai kay kisee kay bachay ko goad lainay main koyee harj nahin hai, balkay yeh nihaayat sawaab ka kaam hai.  Albatta bachchay ko apnaa naam daina jaaiz nahin hai.  Us kaa naam aur nasb donon wahee rahnay chaahiyayn jo qudrat nay usay diyay hain.

Doosray sawal ka jawab asaan nahin hai.  Is kay liyay kisee aalim say mashwara karain to behtar hoga.

Wallahu a'lam.

Wassalamu alaikum.
Re: A question for urdu speakers....
siddiqui
10/20/02 at 01:07:07
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the question sounded more than urdu  :)
but Br Abu hamza gave an apt answer
jazakallah humul qair  may Allah swt increase your knowledege
[wlm]
Re: A question for urdu speakers....
jannah
10/20/02 at 03:10:17
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More than urdu? Hmm  I don't know how people come up with this stuff and I still can't understand how they would use the internet to get answers for such important things!!!

Anyways jazakAllah khair for the urdu props :)

Re: A question for urdu speakers....
bhaloo
10/20/02 at 10:27:28
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ILooks like Arsalan's Urdu skills have improved, but I'm not giving him full marks, he could have written a longer response.  Sorry yaar. ;)  What is amazing is that Jannah was able to understand the question.

I think the author of the question probably understands English given the amount of English words he used in the question:
baby, thanks, question, islamic point, problem, answer, month, lady.

Perhaps the author thought Jannah might not understand English and therefore wrote the question in Urdu.? ???

Re: A question for urdu speakers....
jaihoon
10/20/02 at 16:09:48
[quote author=bhaloo link=board=madrasa;num=1035013006;start=0#4 date=10/20/02 at 10:27:28][slm]

What is amazing is that Jannah was able to understand the question.
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:D
Re: A question for urdu speakers....
jannah
10/20/02 at 17:06:27
ha ha laugh all you urdu people.. i'll have you know i learned a lot of new ways to call people bad names in urdu while i was in india :)
Re: A question for urdu speakers....
jaihoon
10/21/02 at 01:01:28
::)

The beauty of urdu language is that even [i]gaali[/i] sounds poetic  ;)
Re: A question for urdu speakers....
Tesseract
10/21/02 at 03:09:48
[quote]mera dosra question ya hain ka aj kal kise ka baby hone wala hota hain kise lady ka . jub us ka phla month hota hain to koey dosre lady us baby ko sarjre se apni ovre yani pate maa rakha walati hain keya ya theek hain islami lahaz se .
Dr  kety hain jase aap kise ka baby apni ghar maa rakhty hain ise tarha aap baby ko apne pate maa rakhty hain is lia ya gunahe nahe. [/quote]

       To my understanding, it is haraam to do as is stated in the above situation. The question refers to the 3rd out of seven possibilities mentioned in the following link:

   [url]http://www.fiqhcouncil.org/fiqh.aspview=question&TopicID=34&ID=50[/url]

        InshaAllah, bro. Abu Hamza can help further by using his translation skills:). May Allah (swt) help u in all ur endeavours bro.:)

Wallahu Ta'ala 'Alim. Wassalamu 'alaikum.

Re: A question for urdu speakers....
Tesseract
10/21/02 at 03:31:15
Assalamu 'alaikum,

           O.k, for some reason the link is not working (at least not on my comp.), so I am copying and pasting the answer that I referred to. Here it goes:


Question:
Would you please provide us with the resolutions of the Fiqh Academy of the OIC regarding the bio-technical parenting?
Answered by:  the Fiqh Council


The Islamic Fiqh Academy of the OIC, at its third annual meeting held at Amman,Jordan on the 8-13 of Safar, 1407 (October 11-16, 1986) studied the question of biotechnical parenting. In its final memorandum, Decision four, the statement of the academy went as follows:

"it is appears to the assembly of the academy that the methods for biotechnical parenting nowadays are seven:

1. Clinical fertilization takes place between sperm taken from the husband and an egg taken from a donor, other than the man's wife: and then the embryo is transplanted to the womb of the man's wife.

2. Clinical fertilization takes place between sperm taken from a man other than the husband and an egg taken from the wife; and then the embryo is transplanted to the womb of the man's wife.

3. Clinical fertilization takes place between the sperm and the egg off a man and his wife; but the embryo is then transplanted into the womb of another woman.

4. Clinical fertilization takes place between the sperm and the egg off a man and a woman other than the husband and the wife, and then the embryo is implanted in the womb of the wife.

5. Clinical fertilization takes place between the husband's sperm and the wife's egg, and then the embryo is implanted in the womb of a second wife.

6. Clinical fertilization takes place between sperm from the husband and an egg from his wife, and then implantation of the embryo in the womb of the wife.

7. To take the sperm of the husband and then inject it the proper place, or the womb of his wife, so that fertilization takes place internally.


The Academy's decision: the first five methods are all of them haram from shari'ah viewpoint and thus absolutely prohibited owing to the consequences resulting from confusing the true lineage, forfeit of motherhood, and other legal difficulties. The sixth and seventh methods, however, were seen by the academy as acceptable in cases here there is true need; though only when all necessary precautions have been taken."


Wassalamu 'Alaikum.

[e: A question for urdu speakers....
AyeshaZ
10/21/02 at 20:11:02



Perhaps the author thought Jannah might not understand English and therefore wrote the question in Urdu.?    :-/

Re: A question for urdu speakers....
bhaloo
10/21/02 at 22:27:32
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[quote author=jannah link=board=madrasa;num=1035013006;start=0#6 date=10/20/02 at 17:06:27]i'll have you know i learned a lot of new ways to call people bad names in urdu while i was in india :)[/quote]

I'm speechless.   :o :o :o    
10/21/02 at 22:32:12
bhaloo
Re: A question for urdu speakers....(&german)
jannah
10/22/02 at 14:30:11
Uh huh keep laughing..

Now I speak German. Check this out:  (Helpppppppp Eleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanor!!!)

car Chitba Verlobungseit ChitbaIst ein Antrag und wenn es eine positive Antwort gibt ist es ein Versprechen ur Heirat Aber der Verlobte darf nix von dem Verlobten bekommen und die Person ist ein Fremder fr sie bis sie heiraten und den Vertrag beenden Sie knnen usammen mit Mahram sprechen Es gi
Re: A question for urdu speakers....(&german)
Dawn
10/22/02 at 15:27:08
That's not exactly German.  OK, it's just really BAD German, I think, with a few non-German words thrown in to boot.  It's not even a sentence or a question (more like a bunch of run-on comments), and it ends in the middle of a word.  Here is the best I can do with it -- I'm not going to bother trying to deal with the non-German words.   And I am guessing at the punctuation. Eleanor, your German is better than mine.  What's your take on it?

car Chitba Period of Engagement ChitbaIst It is a proposal and if it gets a positive answer, it is a promise to marry.   However the fiancee should not receive anything from the fiancee and the person is a strange woman (I presume non-Mahrem is implied here) until they marry and the contract is concluded.  She can speak with Mahram.  There is (are)

Sorry I can't do better!

Peace,
Dawn
10/22/02 at 15:28:08
Dawn
Re: A question for urdu speakers....(&german)
bhaloo
10/22/02 at 21:46:24
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So Jannah was sent a proposal in German? ???   I guess the guy maybe thought she might agree if she didn't know what was being said. :P
Re: A question for urdu speakers....(&german)
eleanor
10/23/02 at 01:53:48
[quote author=jannah link=board=madrasa;num=1035013006;start=0#12 date=10/22/02 at 14:30:11]
car Chitba Verlobungseit ChitbaIst ein Antrag und wenn es eine positive Antwort gibt ist es ein Versprechen ur Heirat Aber der Verlobte darf nix von dem Verlobten bekommen und die Person ist ein Fremder fr sie bis sie heiraten und den Vertrag beenden Sie knnen usammen mit Mahram sprechen Es gi
[/quote]

basically what Dawn said - you are getting very good Dawn :)

A couple of minor adjustments- my translation:

Engagement Time (or period of engagement like Dawn said)
Chitba is a proposal and when it gets a positive answer it is a promise of marriage. But the fiancée may not receive anything from the fiancé and the person is a stranger for you until you marry and conclude the contract. You may speak together with a Mahram. There is/are ....

I take the last sentence to mean that you may meet with your fiancé and talk in the presence of a Mahrem.

This is a very weird email since it starts and ends in the middle of a word. It's like someone just randomly cut and pasted and sent it.


Re: A question for urdu speakers....(&german)
jannah
10/23/02 at 01:55:01
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ho ho ho.. u guys are having a jolly ole time huh  :P that's about the type of proposals i get...

vant to married? i good muslim, only drink on partys and smoke only 1 marlbro pack, i very good inshalah go to pray on Eid

or the classic one a friend received:

sister there is no more love in my marriage i'm looking for a second wife to help me raise my children, we can travel and be like the sahaba

u guys want more

how bout this.. old is gold as bhaloo says:

the 5 millionth 18/m/paki kid emails:

do u want to friendship with me?

and my all time favorite, a sis visiting turkey gets hit on buy some dork guys, so one says.. u so beautiful... i marry me... uh.. wait i marry u.. me? u?

ahahah he just couldn't get the pronouns..

oh my .........
Re: A question for urdu speakers....(&german)
imaazh
10/27/02 at 00:29:18
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D  :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/


Jannah!!!!  I can't stop laughing, i'm at uni and everyone around me thinks i'm nuts!  

Thanks for the stomach ache.   :-/



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