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| What is "Makhtab" and "Sunni Muslim"? |
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| murnisah |
| 11/12/02 at 10:39:56 |
| Hi, I read in many verses of the Quran that there is only One Islam. I also recall one statement in a Hadith says... [u]something like[/u], at the end of the day the christians will be divided into 71 sects..., and on Jesus' Return he will only accept Islam...which is only One Islam. (not exact verse...this is merely from my memory, recalling what I read.) But many times I encouter articles online about this muslim belonging to a certain Makhtab. I was told by a muslim friend that singaporean muslims are usually of the Syafi Makhtab. This differ from muslims in countries say..india, they are from another Makhtab. One christian cleric ever explains to me that Makhtab are really the different "sects" in islam. So, according to him, there is also no such thing as One Islam. I was told it is the same as the sects in Christianity, such as Catholics, Protestants, Methodist etc. But I feel I need to clarify this matter by asking a real MUSLIM. 1. Is the above defination of Makhtab given by the cleric true? 2. What is Makhtab? 3. Can a muslim woman marries a muslim man from a different makhtab? 4. What is the difference between the different makhtabs? 5. How do the differences and "sects" come about? 6.Can muslims from different makhtab pray together? I think they can, because I always see on TV that all muslims pray together during their Hajj in Mekah. Am I right? (I was told 'Mecca' is not the advisable spelling...cos' of many funny stuff in US that has Mecca as the brand name nowadays!) And there is also many muslim that specifically call themselves "Sunni Muslims". What is it? May sounds like a stupid question. but I hope someone can help. Thanks! |
| Re: What is "Makhtab" and "Sunni Muslim"? |
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| Fatimah |
| 11/12/02 at 13:21:10 |
| Hi, :) [quote]1. Is the above defination of Makhtab given by the cleric true?[/quote] No. [quote]3. Can a muslim woman marries a muslim man from a different makhtab?[/quote] Yes. [quote]4. What is the difference between the different makhtabs?[/quote] Madhhabs sometimes differ in issues of fiqh, for example, where to place the hands when praying. Madhhabs are not sects, they are all followers of the Quran and Sunnah. [quote]5. How do the differences and "sects" come about?[/quote] I found this, hopefully it will help answer this one. Question: I would be very grateful if you could advise me on the fundamental differences between the main sects of Islam, although I know that originally Islam was a unified religion. Thankyou. Answer: Praise be to Allaah. The answer to your question is lengthy and deserves a book to itself. We cannot answer in details here, but we can say the following in brief: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told us beforehand that this Ummah would be divided as the previous nations were divided, as stated in the saheeh hadeeth: Wahb ibn Baqiyyah told us from Khaalid from Muhammad ibn ‘Amr from Abu Salamah from Abu Hurayrah who said: the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The Jews were divided into seventy-one or seventy-two sects, and the Christians were divided into seventy-one or seventy-two sects, and my Ummah will be divided into seventy-three sects.” This was narrated by Abu Dawood in his Sunan, Kitaab al-Sunnah, Baab Sharh al-Sunnah. It was reported from ‘Awf ibn Maalik who said: the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The Jews were divided into seventy-one sects, one of which is in Paradise and seventy are in the Fire. The Christians were divided into seventy-two sects, seventy-one of which are in the Fire and one is in Paradise. By the One in Whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, my Ummah will be divided into seventy-three sects, one of which will be in Paradise and seventy-two will be in the Fire.” It was said, O Messenger of Allaah, who are they? He said, “Al-Jamaa’ah.” Sunan Ibn Maajah, no. 3982. What is meant by al-Jamaa’ah is the ‘aqeedah and actions of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and his Companions. Among the sects that claim to belong to Islam are those who are misguided with regard to the Unity of Allaah (Tawheed) and His Names and Attributes; they say that everything that exists is Allaah and that He is incarnate or present in His creation – glorified be He far above what they say. On the contrary, He is above His heavens, settled on His throne, distinct from His creation. Others are misguided with regard to eeman (faith) and say that deeds are separate from faith and that faith does not increase or decrease. The correct view is that faith consists of words and deeds; it increases when one does acts of obedience to Allaah and decreases when one commits sin. Others are misguided by their declaring that the person who commits sin goes beyond the pale of Islam and is doomed to eternity in the Fire. The correct view is that the one who commits a major sin – apart from shirk and al-kufr al-akbar – does not go out of Islam. Others are misguided with regard to the issue of al-qadaa’ wa’l-qadar (divine decree), and said that man has no choice in what he does. The correct view is that man has freedom of will on the basis of which he will be called to account and will bear the consequences of his deeds. Others are misguided with regard to the Qur’aan, and say that it is created. The correct view is that it is the words of Allaah, revealed not created. Others are misguided with regard to the Sahaabah, whom they revile and denounce as kaafirs even though they are the companions of the Prophet among whom the Wahy (Revelation) was revealed, and they are the most knowledgeable and the most devoted in worship among this Ummah, and they strove in jihaad for the sake of Allaah and Allaah supported this religion through them – may Allaah be pleased with them all. And there are other groups who deviated from the path of Islam and innovated matters in the religion of Allaah; each of them rejoices in what they have, but they have followed the ways of the Shaytaan and gone against the words of Allaah (interpretation of the meaning): “And verily, this is My straight path, so follow it, and follow not (other) paths, for they will separate you away from His path. This He has ordained for you that you may become Al-Muttaqoon (the pious)” [al-An’aam 6:153] We ask Allaah to make us among the followers of the Sunnah who will be saved from the Fire, and to admit us to Paradise among the righteous. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad. Islam Q&A Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid (www.islam-qa.com) [quote]6.Can muslims from different makhtab pray together? I think they can, because I always see on TV that all muslims pray together during their Hajj in Mekah. Am I right?[/quote] Yes, you are right. We do pray together. We are one Ummah. Good observation :) [quote]And there is also many muslim that specifically call themselves "Sunni Muslims". What is it?[/quote] A Sunni Muslim is someone who follows the Quran and Sunnah of the Prophet (pbuh). [quote]May sounds like a stupid question. but I hope someone can help.[/quote] I didnt think they were stupid questions. They are very valid and I hope I helped a little. May Allah guide us and you to His straight path. :-* Take care... |
| 11/12/02 at 13:32:46 |
| Fatimah |
| Re: What is "Makhtab" and "Sunni Muslim"? |
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| Abd_al-Rashid |
| 11/14/02 at 09:37:46 |
| [slm] This is a very important topic, let us define these sects that the shaykh is talking about. [quote]Among the sects that claim to belong to Islam are those who are misguided with regard to the Unity of Allaah (Tawheed) and His Names and Attributes; they say that everything that exists is Allaah and that He is incarnate or present in His creation – glorified be He far above what they say. On the contrary, He is above His heavens, settled on His throne, distinct from His creation.[/quote] These would be the sufis, and this belief is known as wahdatul wujood (oneness of existence- i.e. everything is Allah) who along with this go into grave worship and extreme ascetism, matters which are clearly forbidden. [quote]Others are misguided with regard to eeman (faith) and say that deeds are separate from faith and that faith does not increase or decrease.[/quote] They are known as the murji'ah, they hold that as long as one says and believes in the kalimah one is free to do as one pleases. [quote]Others are misguided by their declaring that the person who commits sin goes beyond the pale of Islam and is doomed to eternity in the Fire.[/quote] Introducing the khawarij, the most dangerous sect in Islam. They were responsible for starting the revolt against Ali r.a. and killed many Companions. They make the blood of Muslims permissible and are quick to declare takfir on anyone. The Prophet [saw] strongly warned against them. They are the most outwardly pious, yet the Qur'an does not go past their throats. [quote]Others are misguided with regard to the issue of al-qadaa’ wa’l-qadar (divine decree), and said that man has no choice in what he does.[/quote] Meet the qadariyyah, they say that mankind is totally free from the will of Allah. [quote]Others are misguided with regard to the Qur’aan, and say that it is created.[/quote] Known as the Mu'tazilah, this was a great fitnah in the earlier days. They are also the people of philosophy, theology, and general useless talk. [quote]Others are misguided with regard to the Sahaabah, whom they revile and denounce as kaafirs even though they are the companions of the Prophet among whom the Wahy (Revelation) was revealed, and they are the most knowledgeable and the most devoted in worship among this Ummah, and they strove in jihaad for the sake of Allaah and Allaah supported this religion through them – may Allaah be pleased with them all.[/quote] Finally we have the shi'ah, some more extreme than others in their beliefs since among them are also numerous sects. [quote]What is Makhtab?[/quote] Madhab: juristic school of thought. Although now there are 4 widely accepted maadahib, in earlier days there were many more. Scholars gave their interpretations and rulings regarding particular issues that arose at the time, taking their answers from the Qur'an. If the answer is not there, they go to the Sunnah. If it is not there, they go to the consensus of the community. Finally, in some cases where the answer was not found in the previous three, they made ijtihad (Exerting the total of one's ability attempting to uncover Allah's rulings on issues from their sources (Qur'an, Sunnah, Ijma', etc.) Now what has happened is some have taken to fanatical blind following of a madhab, so much so that if a hadith contradicts the opinion of the scholar, they reject it saying their madhab does not agree with it. For more on that, read [url=http://admin.muslimsonline.com/~bern/madhab.html]this[/url] To conclude, a Muslim is not from the above mentiojed sects. We stay away from the extremist murji'ah on one hand and khawarij on the other. We do not declare Muslims to be unbelievers on account of sins. We believe the Qur'an is the speech of Allah, however his speech is not like our speech as Allah said in Surah al-Ikhlas (interpretation of the meaning) "And there is nothing comparable to him" We believe Allah ascended the throne in a manner befitting his majesty and Allah is not everywhere. We believe faith is followed by action and one cannot exist without the other. We honor and respect all the Companions of the Prophet [saw] and we acknowledge the Qadr (divine decree of Allah) over all the creation. Finally on the issue of madhab it is not obligatory to follow a particular one, however it was said by all 4 imams that when a hadeeth is found to be saheeh then that is their madhab. [wlm] |
| 11/14/02 at 09:43:46 |
| Abd_al-Rashid |
| Re: What is "Makhtab" and "Sunni Muslim"? |
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| se7en |
| 11/14/02 at 12:47:43 |
| as salaamu alaykum, guys, I think the chica wants some *basic* info about the definition of a madhab and their relationship with Islam as a whole.. not a listing of what groups are on the manhaj and which are not, etc. Murnisa, you can check out some older threads where this topic was discussed [url=http://www.jannah.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl/YaBB.pl?board=madrasa&action=display&num=6058]here[/url] and [url=http://www.jannah.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl/YaBB.pl?board=madrasa&action=display&num=6060]here[/url].. they're a little more introductory and perhaps easier to understand :) peace se7en ps - it's interesting to note that the etiquette of scholars is *not* to mention a name or label of a group/person/etc when correcting someone or saying something that is critical of their teachings. |
| 11/14/02 at 12:52:51 |
| se7en |
| Re: What is "Makhtab" and "Sunni Muslim"? |
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| UmmZaid |
| 11/16/02 at 20:10:29 |
| [slm] Liza: You can also find some information here: http://www.cybermuslima.com/madhhabs.htm And there are links to more articles here: http://www.cybermuslima.com/fiqh.htm |
| Re: What is "Makhtab" and "Sunni Muslim"? |
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| The_Reciter |
| 11/17/02 at 16:47:39 |
| [quote author=murnisah link=board=lighthouse;num=1037115597;start=0#0 date=11/12/02 at 10:39:56]And there is also many muslim that specifically call themselves "Sunni Muslims". What is it? May sounds like a stupid question. but I hope someone can help. Thanks![/quote] [slm] :'( ;-) ;-) ;-) Sunni muslims are, who fallow quran and sunnah, also called ahlu sunnah wal Jama'aat...There is another call Firqaee Najeyyah ...For example I'm sunni muslim and my madhab is Hanafee but sometimes for some issue (if allowed) I use shafee tooo And there are never stupid questions only stupid answers, notice it sister ok. [wlm] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] :'( :-* :'( :'( ::) :P [] [] |
| 11/17/02 at 16:50:19 |
| The_Reciter |
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