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Driven
12/01/02 at 08:17:30
Now i know that the Prophet (saws) did itikaaf in the masjid during the last 10 days of Ramadan as did his wives (may Allah be pleased with them) and it's a duty on all of us to follow their lead.

Well we're well into the last 10 days, and I was wondering if it's permissible for me to do it for one full day right before the supposed date of Eid (Friday). Doing it for one day atleast is better than not doing it at all right ? And by the way..I'm 19.

And Err..I just noticed the Pepsi glass icon..don't you people know that Pepsi and Coca Cola are Free Masonic products? We shouldn't be drinking those!! (As a disclaimer: these people worship the devil and support the Dajjal.)

Pepsi=Penny Earned for the Protection and Safety of Israel (a headquater of the Free Masons) and if you read the Coca Cola label from Right to Left..you'll see that it looks like arabic writing and says 'La Muhammad La Allah' that means No Muhammad No Allah. Ughh may they rot in hell!!!!
All u Muslims out there..don't support them by drinking these two..there are s0o many soft drinks to choose from dammit!!!
Re: itikaaf for women
Barr
12/04/02 at 18:36:48
Assalamu'alaikum :)

[quote]I was wondering if it's permissible for me to do it for one full day right before the supposed date of Eid (Friday). Doing it for one day atleast is better than not doing it at all right ? [/quote]

Sorry, if this reply is late. Yup, you right :) Better once then never.

However, its also better to do qiyam during the last 10 nights.

In this part of the world, the last 10th night just passed abt 3 hours ago with Fajr, and today is the last day of fast :(. Hopefully you're able to catch it where you're at. And if not..., may Allah give you the barakah of time for the next Ramadan. Ameen.

Take care, sis.. wassalam! :-)



Re: itikaaf for women
Driven
12/05/02 at 12:17:07
Asalam! :)

Thanx for replying, I'll keep all this in mind for next year!! :)..we just finished our last fast about a few hours ago and tommorow is Eid. So Eid Mubarak to you and May Allah keep on guiding us on the Right and True Path-Ameen

And what exactly is qiyam? I'm not familiar with that..so please elucidate..
Re: itikaaf for women
deenb4dunya
12/05/02 at 20:32:57
Assalamu Alaikum Driven,

Qiyam is the same as tahajjud- they both mean 'night prayer'... ie- nawafil (extra prayers) performed anytime after ishaa prayer. The best time to preform it is the last 1/3 of the night (a few hours b4 fajr).

I'll try to find some articles and stuff about it inshallah.

Deen  :-)
Re: itikaaf for women
Driven
12/06/02 at 05:46:14
W'salam!!!!!!!
Oh tahajud..yes I know about those.
How many did our Prophet (saws) do exactly?
Re: itikaaf for women
deenb4dunya
12/06/02 at 07:25:23
Maybe there are several reports about how many rakaat Rasoolullaah (Saws) used to perfrom, but I think its 11- 8 sets fo two + 3 witr

Deen :-)
Re: itikaaf for women
oneway2paradise
12/07/02 at 01:06:46
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I know that Coca Cola and Pepsi support Israel but Pepsi doesn't actually stand for that...it's just something made up for fun.  Another one is Pay Every Penny to Support Israel. Coca Cola originated in Atlanta, GA (my native home).  It was made from the coca plant...it had cocaine in it originally.  My grandmother said they used to call a coke a dope.  So the name is exactly what it is, Coca Cola.  I doesn't look like Arabic writing.  My husband and I looked at it and didn't see anything.  He's Arab and would notice that.  It's just another urban legend.  Don't support the companies but don't believe every little thing.

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Re: itikaaf for women
Tesseract
12/07/02 at 02:33:47
Assalamu 'alaikum wa Rahmatullah,

   [quote]And what exactly is qiyam? I'm not familiar with that..so please elucidate.. [/quote]

   [quote]Qiyam is the same as tahajjud- they both mean 'night prayer'... ie- nawafil (extra prayers) performed anytime after ishaa prayer. The best time to preform it is the last 1/3 of the night (a few hours b4 fajr). [/quote]

           Its  a pretty common misconception amongst Muslims about Tahajjud, Taraweeh and Qiyam-al-Lail. In general, people think they are all 3 different types of prayers, however, in fact they are same. We had sheikh Jalal Abu Ar-Rub (the one who has translated, from Arabic to English, Imam Ibn Qayyim Al-Jauziyyah's work Zad Al Ma'd) visiting us during the last few days of Ramadan, and he clarified this misconception.
          'Tahajjud' is the term used for any night optional prayers that is done between 'Isha and Fajr ( and the recommended time to pray in sunnah is last third portion of the night).
          'Qiyam-al-Lail' literally means 'standing at night', so, in general it includes any prayer done between 'Isha and Fajr which is actually the same as Taraweeh whether done in congregation or individually. However, most Muslims have reserved this term for the 'congregational prayers done in the last third part of night specially during Ramadan'.
         'Taraweeh' is the term used for 'Optional prayers offered after the Ishâ prayers on the nights of Ramadân'. These may be performed individually or in congregation.
           So, Tahajjud is a bigger term that encompasses both Qiyam-al-Lail and Taraweeh (which are done specifically in Ramadan). Hope, it clarifies the confusion.

         [quote]Oh tahajud..yes I know about those. How many did our Prophet (saws) do exactly? [/quote]

         [quote]Maybe there are several reports about how many rakaat Rasoolullaah (Saws) used to perfrom, but I think its 11- 8 sets fo two + 3 witr [/quote]

          This is again quite disturbing and confusing for most of the Muslims (specially here in States) that why scholars differ in the no. of Rak'ahs and some pray 11, while some pray 20. The best explanation is as follows taken from islam-qa:

    Question:


have asked this earlier but did not get a satisfactory answer. My question is about Taraweeh Prayer in Ramadan. You have answered to me in a question before that Taraweeh should not be more that 11 rakat. It has been authentically reported that Muhammad SAAW prayed Taraweeh 3 times in Ramadan and it consisted 11 Rakah. Also the book by Shaykh Naasir-ud-Din Al-Albani (May Allah have mercy on him)ˇ Qiyam and Taraweeh states that Taraweeh should be 11 Rakah. The sunnah is 11 Rakat. Now the question which is confusing and often becomes a discussion among brothers is whether the number of Rakat in Taraweeh should be 11 Rakat or 20 Rakat. Some people during Ramadan go to masjids where the Imam does 11 Rakats and other go to Masjids where the Imam does 20 Rakats. In most of the Hanafi Masjids around the US the Imam does 20 Rakat. The point to note is whether 20 Rakat or 11 Rakat the Imam completes the entire Qurran during Ramadan. The people are very sentitive about this issue and this issue becomes a topic in gathering in the United States. The people who pray 20 Rakat blame the other groug praying 11 as being wrong and the group praying 11 Rakat blames the group praying 20 as wrong. This is a big fitnah in the US. This leads to disunity. People always quote that in Prophets Mosque the Imam prays 20 Rakats and also in Masjid-ul-Haraam in Mecca the Imam prays 20 Rakat. Also those who during Ramadan go to Saudi Arabia for Umrah say that the Imam prays 20 Rakat. This is a confusion.
Please answer and explain to me the following issues:
1. The sunnah is to pray 11 Rakat then why is Prophets mosque in Medina and also in Masdid-ul-Haram the imam leads the people to pray 20 Rakat? Why? Why is this different from the sunnah?
2. Why are the number of Rakat of Taraweeh in Prophets mosque and Masjid-ul-Haraam 20 Rakat? Please explain to us so.

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.  

We do not think that the Muslims should be so sensitive with regard to issues that are the matter of scholarly differences or make them the cause of division and fitnah among the Muslims.

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen  (may Allaah have mercy on him) said, when speaking about the matter of one who prays ten rak’ahs with the imam, then sits down and waits for Witr and does not complete the Taraaweeh prayers with the imam:

It grieves us deeply that we find in the Muslim ummah a group which differs concerning matters in which differences of opinion are acceptable, and they take these differences as a means to cause division. Differences within the ummah existed at the time of the Sahaabah, yet they remained united. The youth in particular and to all those who are committed to Islam must remain united, because they have enemies who are laying in wait.

Al-Sharh al-Mumti’, 4/225

Two groups have gone to extremes with regard to this matter. The first group denounced everyone who prays more than eleven rak’ahs and said that doing so was bid’ah. The second group denounced those who do only eleven rak’ahs and said that they are going against scholarly consensus (ijmaa’).

Let us listen to what Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

Here we say that we should not go to extremes or be negligent. Some people go to extremes in adhering to the number mentioned in the Sunnah, and say that it is not permissible to do more than the number mentioned in the Sunnah, and they aggressively denounce those who do more than that, saying that they are sinners.

This is undoubtedly wrong. How can they be sinners, when the Prophet SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), upon being asked about night prayers, said that they are to be done two by two, and he did not specify any particular number? Of course  the one who asked him about the night prayer did not know the number, because if he did not know how to do it, it is even more likely that he did not know the number. And he was not one of those who served the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) so that we might say that he knew what happened inside his house. Since the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told him how to do it but did not say how many times, it may be understood that the matter is broad in scope, and that a person may pray one hundred rak’ahs then pray Witr with one rak’ah.

With regard to the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), “Pray as you have seen me praying”, this does not apply in absolute terms even for these people. Hence they do not say that a person should pray Witr with five rak’ahs sometimes and with seven rak’ahs sometimes and with nine rak’ahs sometimes. If we understand it in absolute terms, then we would have to pray Witr with five rak’ahs sometimes and with seven rak’ahs sometimes and with nine rak’ahs sometimes. But what is meant by the hadeeth is pray as you have seen me praying with regard to how to pray not how many rak’ahs, unless there is a text to state what the number is.  

Whatever the case, a person should not be strict with people with regard to a matter that is broad in scope. We have even seen some brothers who are strict on this matter accusing the imams who pray more than eleven rak’ahs of following bid’ah, and they leave the mosque, thus missing out on the reward of which the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever stands with the imam until he finishes (the prayer), the reward of qiyaam al-layl will be recorded for him.” (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 806; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi, 646). Some of them even sit down after completing ten rak’ahs, thus breaking up the rows of worshippers by sitting there, and sometimes they start talking and disturb the people who are praying.

We have no doubt that their intentions are good and they are doing their best to come to the right conclusion, but that does not mean that they are correct.

The other group does the opposite. They sternly denounce those who pray only eleven rak’ahs and say that they have gone against scholarly consensus. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And whoever contradicts and opposes the Messenger (Muhammad) after the right path has been shown clearly to him, and follows other than the believers’ way, We shall keep him in the path he has chosen, and burn him in Hell — what an evil destination!”

[al-Nisa’ 4:115]

All the generations who came before you only knew the number as twenty-three rak’ahs, and they denounce anyone who says anything different.

Al-Sharh al-Mumti’, 4/73-75

With regard to the evidence quoted by those who say that it is not permissible to do more than eight rak’ahs in Taraaweeh, they quote the hadeeth of Abu Salamah ibn ‘Abd al-Rahmaan, who asked ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her), “How did the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) pray during Ramadaan?” She said: “He did not pray more than eleven rak’ahs in Ramadaan or at other times. He would pray four, and do not ask how beautiful and long they were, then he would pray four, and do not ask how beautiful and long they were, then he would pray three. I said, ‘O Messenger of Allaah, will you sleep before you pray Witr?’ He said, ‘O ‘Aa’ishah, my eyes sleep but my heart does not.’”

Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1909; Muslim, 738

They said: This hadeeth indicates that the Messenger of Allaah was consistent in his prayers at night in Ramadaan and at other times.

The scholars refuted this use of the hadeeth as evidence by saying that this is what the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did, but the fact that he did something does not imply that it is obligatory.

The evidence that there is no set number for prayers at night – which include Taraaweeh – is the hadeeth of Ibn ‘Umar according to which a man asked the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) about prayer at night. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Prayers at night are to be offered two by two (two rak’ahs at a time). If any of you fears that the time of dawn is approaching then let him pray one rak’ah as Witr.”

(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 846; Muslim, 749)

If we look at what the scholars of the prominent schools of thought said, you will clearly see that this matter is broad in scope and that there is nothing wrong with doing more than eleven rak’ahs.

Al-Sarkhasi, who is one of the imams of the Hanafi school, said:

It is twenty rak’ahs, apart from Witr, in our view.

Al-Mabsoot, 2/145

Ibn Qudaamah said:

The favoured view according to Abu ‘Abd-Allaah (i.e., Imam Ahmad, may Allaah have mercy on him), is that it is twenty rak’ahs. This was the view of al-Thawri, Abu Hanfeefah and al-Shaafa’i. Maalik said it is thirty-six.

Al-Mughni, 1/457

Al-Nawawi said:

Taraaweeh prayer is Sunnah according to scholarly consensus. Our view is that it is twenty rak’ahs with ten tasleems, and it is permissible to pray it individually or in congregation.

Al-Majmoo’, 4/31

These are the views of the four imams concerning the number of rak’ahs of Taraaweeh prayer. All of them said something more than eleven rak’ahs. Perhaps the reasons why they said something more than eleven rak’ahs include the following:

1-     They thought that the hadeeth of ‘Aa’ishah did not mean that this was the specific number.

2-     A greater number was narrated from many of the salaf.

See al-Mughni, 2/604; al-Majmoo’, 4/32

3-     The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to pray eleven rak’ahs and make them very lengthy, so much so that it used to take him most of the night. Indeed, one night in which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) led his companions in praying Taraaweeh, he did not end his prayer until just before dawn, and the Sahaabah feared that they would miss suhoor. The Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) loved to pray behind the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and they did not feel that it was too long. The scholars thought that if the imam made the prayer so long, this would be too difficult for the members of the congregation and that might put them off. So they thought that the imam should make the recitation shorter and increase the number of rak’ahs.

The point is that the one who prays eleven rak’ahs in the manner narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is doing well and is following the Sunnah. Whoever makes the recitation shorter and increases the number of rak’ahs is also doing well. A person who does either of these two things is not to be denounced. Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said:

If a person prays Taraaweeh according to the madhhabs of Abu Haneefah, al-Shaafa’i and Ahmad, with twenty rak’ahs, or according to the madhhab of Maalik, with thirty-six rak’ahs, or with thirteen or eleven rak’ahs, he has done well, as Imam Ahmad said, because there is nothing to specify the number. So the greater or lesser number of rak’ahs depends on how long or short the qiyaam (standing in the prayer) is.

Al-Ikhtiyaaraat, p. 64

Al-Suyooti said:

What is narrated in the saheeh and hasan ahaadeeth is the command to observe night prayers during Ramadaan, which is encouraged without specifying a particular number. It is not proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) prayed twenty rak’ahs of Taraaweeh, rather that he prayed at night, with an unspecified number of rak’ahs. Then he delayed it on the fourth night lest it become obligatory for them and they might not be able to do it. Ibn Hajar al-Haythami said: There is no saheeh report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) prayed twenty rak’ahs of Taraaweeh. The narration which suggests that he “used to pray twenty rak’ahs” is extremely weak (da’eef).

Al-Mawsoo’ah al-Fiqhiyyah, 27/142-145

So you should not be surprised that people pray Taraaweeh as twenty rak’ahs. There have been generation after generation of those imams (who used to pray twenty rak’ahs), and all of them are good.  

And Allaah knows best.

Wassalam.


Re: itikaaf for women
Driven
12/08/02 at 01:31:43
W'salam!!

Tesseract thanx for the details..they were quite helpful and it made me remember that "Actions are judged by Intentions" and all that.  :)

Umm okay so I was wrong..not right to left..but laterally inverted for the Coka Cola thing. Hmm naah I still believe that it isn't just a rumour. I mean we can't just deny certain things that are s0o blindly obvious you know. That'z just Stupid!!!

To clarify check this website out and skip waayyy near to the last quater of the page..they have the Coca Cola logo thing which looks exactly like what I had told you.
 www.allaahuakbar.net/free-masons/index.htm

In digression, I gotta say that Coke isn't really good for you anyway, my uncle once had lost his tooth and he put it in a glass of coke overnight or something and by the morning it has dissolved! Now I have yet to try that out myself butta..I aint losing any teeth! Heh :)
Re: itikaaf for women
Driven
12/08/02 at 01:36:16
HAD dissolved...grrr typo!!
Re: itikaaf for women
Aabidah
12/15/02 at 10:32:17
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Just wanted to reply to teserract on one thing he/she said:

[quote]
So, Tahajjud is a bigger term that encompasses both Qiyam-al-Lail and Taraweeh (which are done specifically in Ramadan). Hope, it clarifies the confusion.
[/quote]

Qiyaam-ul Layl is not someting done specifically in Ramadhan only but on any night of the year.  Taraweeh and Laylat-ul Qadr are reserved for Ramadhan only, but not Qiyaam-ul Layl.  Just wanted to point it out.....

[wlm]
Betul


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