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Anonymous
12/16/02 at 18:26:30
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Probly a really stupid question but...how shud a sis dress in front of

1) mahrems (my dad & bro've got sum crazy ideas!)

2)other sisters? & this 1s a problem - a lot of sisters I know dont understand y I dont
know where 2 look wen they cum out already 2 dive in with thighs exposed! Even the 1s who
wear tight jeans/leggings...I dont know...I mean thighs count as a private part right?
Even in front of women? I dont know...I prefer a shalwar kameez myself...bt am I jus
getting this frm nowhere?  Does any1 know abt the rulings involved?

Jk.

[wlm]

Re: Swimming...?
theOriginal
12/17/02 at 12:28:58
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Wait question:  Does this have to with swimming?  So you swim in Shalwar Kameez?  

1...Explain crazy ideas: it could go either way.  Do they have a problem with you wearing too much or too little?  

2...I dunno the rulings..maybe someone could help....but I heard that women must cover mid thigh to waist in front of other women.  And yeah I know, I get uncomfortable too....like sometimes at these all-sisters parties...it gets really awkward.  but I think that's just me, because there isn't anything wrong with it.  

Wasalaam...

SF.  
Re: Swimming...?
Leslie
12/19/02 at 04:45:52
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    I have always understood that a woman's awrah in front of other women is from the navel to the knees.  In front of mahrams, the scholars disagree -- some say the same as in front of women, others say only the head and arms uncovered, others ......  (I won't continue the list -- I'll give you a link instead: [url=http://www.ummah.net/jahid/awrah.htm]The Rules of Modesty According to Five Islamic Schools of Law[/url])  I'm not sure how reliable the author of this article is, but I figured the since he's only describing what other scholars have said, the article is probably ok.

   As for swimming, the other day, I found a site that apparently sells swimsuits for Muslim women.  Unfortunately, it's in Turkish, and I can't read it.  :'( The web site is : [url]http://www.hasema.com[/url].  If you click on the cross in the upper left part of the screen, you get a selection of outfits available -- all with matching hijabs!!  (Even so, I think that the choice of fabrics is still a bit too flamboyant -- #1307 is the most subdued of the bunch!)  Can any of you imagine wearing this in public?  Unless there were a whole lot of other women dressed this way at the beach, I would feel a little too conspicuous.

    Whenever I do go swimming, which isn't too often, I have a pair of nylon pants that I wear over my swimsuit -- they're actually meant for people who go canoeing.  They're great, because the nylon doesn't absorb much water, and isn't as close-fitting as leggings, even when wet.  For those of you in Canada, they can be found [url=http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=133705&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=499859&bmUID=1040289593948]here[/url].

BTW sis Anonymous, I hadn't thought of swimming in a Shalwar Kameez, but I think it's a good idea.  :)  

[wlm]
12/19/02 at 04:47:03
Leslie
Re: Swimming...?
Anonymous
12/21/02 at 05:42:56
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Sorry I did write something about the problems with sisters in the context of
swimming...cept it seems I lost it in the process of posting! ;D Sorry...

Yes I have tried in a shalwar kameez...not that good an idea ;) Might give up swimming
altogether with these other sisters...I dont know...they definitely don't cover navel to
knee...and I dont plan to be wearing those outfits Leslie!  But they were amusing so jk ;D

Umm...SF's question..."crazy ideas" - ie on the one hand, my dad doesnt like me to wear
baggy stuff cos he says I look like a "tramp" (in the old sense of the word).  But if its
smart clothes then thats "shameless".  If I wear shalwar kameez I'm fat...but passable.  
Except I dont have many shalwar kameezes nor can I be bothered to iron them every time I
wear them (if I don't I'm a "tramp" again!)  Then theres my bro who says I dress like a
"grunger", a "granny" and a member of the Taleban all in one!  And the rest of my family
have different ideas...(sigh) And I'm not even going to start on the hair/makeup
issues...the maintenance is too much!  Bear in mind this in INSIDE the house...

Note that none of them base their opinions on any Islamic rulings...it's just
culture/personal preference/etc...I just wanted to know what exactly I'm SUPPOSED to do...will have
speak to a knowledgeable person about it I think...(it's just that they take aaages to
get back to you)

Jk anyways.

[wlm]


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