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| fiza |
| 12/23/02 at 16:42:18 |
| .......slmz ya all ;D is it true dat Esa (As) was born on the 25th of December being their Christmas day? |
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| dkb218 |
| 12/23/02 at 16:58:10 |
| No it is not true. 23. And the throes of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a palmtree. She said: Oh, would that I had died before this, and had been a thing quite forgotten. 24. So a voice came to her from beneath her: Grieve not, surely thy Lord had provided a stream beneath thee. 25. And shake towards thee the trunk of the palm-tree, it will drop on thee fresh ripe dates. Surah 19, 23-24 This is an account of the birth of Isa [pbuh]. If you notice in ayat 25, the fresh ripe dates. It is my understanding that dates do not ripen in December. |
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| ltcorpest2 |
| 12/23/02 at 18:44:26 |
| even Christians in general do not believe this. The holiday was a roman holiday before this and when Rome was "christianized" they took over the roman holidays. Easter is however the true time of the year based on the lunar calender |
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| Maliha |
| 12/23/02 at 18:51:03 |
| [slm] I thought Christmas was based on some pagan holiday? | <+tr>
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| Kathy |
| 12/23/02 at 23:14:48 |
| [code]Christmas Beginnings Excerpts quoted directly from http://www.britannica.com : The word Christmas is derived from the Old English Cristes maesse, "Christ's Mass." :( There is no certain tradition of the date of Christ's birth. Christian chronographers of the 3rd century believed that the creation of the world took place at the spring equinox, then reckoned as March 25; hence the new creation in the incarnation (i.e., the conception) and death of Christ must therefore have occurred on the same day, with his birth following nine months later at the winter solstice, December 25). According to a Roman almanac, the Christian festival of Christmas was celebrated in Rome by AD 336( The reason why Christmas came to be celebrated on December 25 remains uncertain, but most probably the reason is that early Christians wished the date to coincide with the pagan Roman festival marking the "birthday of the unconquered sun" ) (natalis solis invicti); this festival celebrated the winter solstice, when the days again begin to lengthen and the sun begins to climb higher in the sky. The traditional customs connected with Christmas have accordingly developed from several sources as a result of the coincidence of the celebration of the birth of Christ with the pagan agricultural and solar observances at midwinter. In the Roman world the Saturnalia (December 17) was a time of merrymaking and exchange of gifts. December 25 was also regarded as the birth date of the Iranian mystery god Mithra, the Sun of Righteousness. On the Roman New Year (January 1), houses were decorated with greenery and lights, and gifts were given to children and the poor. To these observances were added the lGerman and Celtic Yule rites when the Teutonic tribes penetrated into Gaul, Britain, and central Europe. Food and good fellowship, the Yule log and Yule cakes, greenery and fir trees, and gifts and greetings all commemorated different aspects of this festive season. Fires and lights, symbols of warmth and lasting life, have always been associated with the winter festival, both pagan and Christian. Since the European Middle Ages, evergreens, as symbols of survival, have been associated with Christmas... http://www.britannica.com/bcom/eb/article/idxref/0/0,5716,266282,00.htm [/code] |
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| daisynova |
| 12/24/02 at 17:36:26 |
| [quote author=fiza link=board=madrasa;num=1040679739;start=0#0 date=12/23/02 at 16:42:18].......slmz ya all ;D is it true dat Esa (As) was born on the 25th of December being their Christmas day? [/quote] Who know this absolut exactly? Only God (Allah)... |
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