Is Jannah  under the feet of the mothers?

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Is Jannah  under the feet of the mothers?
Sadiq
01/14/02 at 12:33:18
Assalaam Alaikum

I have seen several people use the Hadith on this discussion board.  I just recently seen it used in an Anonymous Posting called How do I win over his mom's heart.  However, is Jannah really under the feet of the mothers?  I recently listened to a lecture on the Importance of Hadeeth by Yahya Ibrahim (which you can listen to at www.Islaam.com).  Not only did Yahya Ibrahim discuss the importance of Hadeeth, but he also discussed several fabricated Hadeeth.  One of them just happened to be "Jannah is under the feet of the mothers."  Yes, this Hadeeth is fabricated and it really makes sense once you think about, because would Jannah be under the feet of a mother who disbelieves in Allah?  Would Jannah be under the feet of a mother that goes against the teachings of Islam and submits to her own desires?  Would Jannah be under the feet of a mother who leads others astray?  I recommond that you listen to this lecture, it is really good.  I hope this helped, Insha Allah.


Re: Is Jannah  under the feet of the mothers?
akbalkhan
01/14/02 at 12:47:00
As Salamu Alayka,

Its a good lesson in that hadith to simply look after how we treat our mothers, and the mothers of the ummah in general.  There are other ahadith much more authenticated that communicate a deep sense of how much our mothers suffered while bearing us during the 9 months and finally into this world. One speaks of a man who once carried his old mother on his shoulders for all of the Hajj, and asked Rasulullah, SAWS, what was his reward for this act, and Rasulullah, SAWS, told him, not even the equivalent of the effort she took to turn over onto her side while pregnant with you, masha'Allah!  

But no, I do not recall any of the gates to Jannah being called "Gate of the Mothers Feet," or anything like that, but in terms of describing those who are most successful in this life and the next, it is those who treat their mothers (kin in general) well.

I personally cannot comment on the status of that hadith.

Regards,

Qamar Akbal Kaan
Re: Is Jannah  under the feet of the mothers?
Sadiq
01/14/02 at 13:45:09
Assalaam Alaikum

It was not my intent to say it is alright to disrespect/disobey your own or someone elses mother.  Or to not appreciate your own mother.  I am sorry, if I in any way conveyed that message in my post.  I just wanted to inform people that this particular Hadeeth is false.

There are numerous authentic Hadeeth and verses from the Quran that specifically say to obey and respect your parents. All the examples below are from the Quran.

4.36 Serve Allah, and join not any partners with Him; and do good- to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbors who are of kin, neighbors who are strangers, the companion by your side, the wayfarer (ye meet), and what your right hands possess: For Allah loveth not the arrogant, the vainglorious;-

6.151 Say: "Come, I will rehearse what Allah hath (really) prohibited you from": Join not anything with Him; be good to your parents; kill not your children on a plea of want;- We provide sustenance for you and for them;- come not nigh to indecent deeds. Whether open or secret; take not life, which Allah hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus doth He command you, that ye may learn wisdom.

17.23 Thy Lord hath decreed that ye worship none but Him, and that ye be kind to parents. Whether one or both of them attain old age in thy life, say not to them a word of contempt, nor repel them, but address them in terms of honor.

31.14 And We have enjoined on man (to be good) to his parents: in travail upon travail did his mother bear him, and in years twain was his weaning: (hear the command), "Show gratitude to Me and to thy parents: to Me is (thy final) Goal.

46.15 We have enjoined on man kindness to his parents: in pain did his mother bear him, and in pain did she give him birth. The carrying of the (child) to his weaning is (a period of) thirty months. At length, when he reaches the age of full strength and attains forty years, he says, "O my Lord! Grant me that I may be grateful for Thy favor which Thou has bestowed upon me, and upon both my parents, and that I may work righteousness such as Thou mayest approve; and be gracious to me in my issue. Truly have I turned to Thee and truly do I submit (to Thee) in Islám."
NS
Re: Is Jannah  under the feet of the mothers?
akbalkhan
01/14/02 at 15:09:07
Oh,no, i didn't think that you did!!  I will certainly check out that lecture.

Thanks for the heads up.

Regards,

Qamar Akbal Kaan
Re: Is Jannah  under the feet of the mothers?
Sadiq
01/14/02 at 15:17:01
:)
Re: Is Jannah  under the feet of the mothers?
abc
01/15/02 at 02:38:49
Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah

According to my very limited knowledge, the hadeeth with this exact wording is daeef, but the meaning of it is contained within another hadeeth which is considered hasan. wallahu alam

check out no. 21 [url=http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/scienceofhadith/afor.html#F2]here[/url]

wassalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah
Re: Is Jannah  under the feet of the mothers?
Arsalan
01/15/02 at 00:33:41
[slm]
[quote]the meaning of it is contained within another hadeeth which is considered hasan. [/quote]It's actually considered sahih, not hasan.

I guess this should be a lesson for us!  Be careful when you declare a hadith inauthentic!  Just because the sanad [chain] of a particular a hadith is inauthentic, it does not mean that its message is condemned or rejected in Islam.  There may very well be other ahaadith that are authentic and convey the same meaning.  Moreover, there might be an ayah from the Qur'an that may convey the same meaning!

[quote]would Jannah be under the feet of a mother who disbelieves in Allah?  Would Jannah be under the feet of a mother that goes against the teachings of Islam and submits to her own desires?  Would Jannah be under the feet of a mother who leads others astray?  [/quote]Hmm.  Why not?

It is our duty as Muslims to treat our parents in the way Allah (swt) has prescribed to us in the Qur'an, regardless of whether they are Muslims or non-Muslims.  Our behavior towards our parents can certainly lead us to Hell or Heaven, regardless of their beliefs!  In that sense, Jannah *is* under the feet of your mother, whether she is a Muslim or not.  This means that if you obey her and treat her kindly, Jannah will be yours (insha Allah), and if you disobey her and treat her badly, you will be punished severely in the sight of Allah!  

Of course, the exception to this is what is known: there is no obedience in disobedience to Allah's commands!  So if the parent commands you (or worse, forces you) to do what Allah has forbidden, then you have no obligation to obey your parents.  But this applies to both Muslim parents as well as non-Muslim parents. Indeed, there are many Muslim parents who encourage, order, and even force their children to disobey Allah (swt).  If we are going to argue that Paradise is not under the feet of an unbelieving mother because of her disobedience to Allah, why would it be under the feet of such Muslim mothers who not only are themselves living a life of ma3siyah [sin], but also force their children to be disobedient to Allah?  

Even in the case where they become a hindrance between us and Islam however, we are required to treat our parents with utmost respect and humility, and be kind, gentle and caring to them.  Again, regardless of whether they are Muslims, or not.

May Allah guide all of our parents, and make us among those who are kind to their parents and give them their due rights.  Ameen.

Wallahu a'lam.

Wassalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah.
Re: Is Jannah  under the feet of the mothers?
abc
01/15/02 at 02:41:56
Assalam alaikum wa rahmatullah
[quote]It's actually considered sahih, not hasan [/quote]

oops, my mistake. thanks for the correction :-)

[quote]May Allah guide all of our parents, and make us among those who are kind to their parents and give them their due rights[/quote]

Ameen, ameen, aaammeeeen.
Re: Is Jannah  under the feet of the mothers?
Sadiq
01/15/02 at 10:57:16
Assalaam Alaikum

Thanks for this hadeeth:

Contained in the hadith of Ibn Majah and al-Nasa'i that a man came to the Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) and said, "O Messenger of Allah! I intend to go on a (military) expedition, but I have come to ask your advice." He said, "Is your mother alive?" He said, "Yes." He said, "Then stay with her, for the Garden is under her feet."

I have just a couple of questions.
1.So instead of using the abridged version (Jannah is under the feet of the mothers), shouldn't we stick to using the entire hadeeth?  Would it be appropriate to only use the last few words?

2.Does the hadeeth above only apply to this man's situation or people getting ready to fight in war?

Thank you for all of the replies, thank you for helping me to learn more.
Re: Is Jannah  under the feet of the mothers?
Caraj
01/15/02 at 14:56:46
I don't want to be inappropriate nor disrespectful, but you all know me by now...;-D ... so can I crack a joke here??? Or no???
Re: Is Jannah  under the feet of the mothers?
Caraj
01/16/02 at 16:43:15
Ok I want everyone to know I am only joking and mean no disrespect ok???
But I asked permission and no one responded.

If Jannah is under the feet of Mothers, I'm going to ask God/Allah,
" Can I TAP DANCE ON MY 22 Y/0'S HEAD PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
Not a lot, just a little

;-D


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