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| Anonymous |
| 01/19/02 at 21:50:10 |
| Assalam 'alaykum: I would like some feedbacks, insights etc on this issue insha'Allah. I read a story today on this web site about a case concerning a woman who was to be stoned to death in Nothern Nigeria( as some of you may or may not know Nothern Nigeria is predominately a Muslim State, I think between 95 to 97% and there has been a struggle to impose Sharia there) for committing adultery. According to the story the woman claimed that she was raped. Anyway, the President intervened because a group of European Parliament sent a strong appeal to Nigeria calling it a "inhuman, barbaric and cruel" execution, and I think the case is rescheduled for March(not too sure about this). I would appreciate it if anyone or all of you could share some light on this kind of issue with regards to sharia.From what I have observed about this website, there is a lot biases torwards Islam which I strongly believe is a result of hate and ignorance combine. Please help. |
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| se7en |
| 01/20/02 at 01:41:10 |
wa alaykum as salaam wa rahmatAllah, I do not know much of anything about the implementation of sharia in Northern Nigeria. I just want to clarify that the sharia *never* considers a victim of rape a criminal. Unfortunately, there is a lot of misinformation out there about the hudood, and in particular about it concerning rape. I've been meaning *for ages* to type up this awesome essay jannah had me read on the subject. InshaAllah one day :) Perhaps someone who knows more about the situation in Nigeria can address this inshaAllah. wasalaamu alaykum wa rahmatAllah. |
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| UmmZaid |
| 01/20/02 at 23:29:06 |
| Salaam 'Alaikum We were trying to raise Muslim awareness of this sister's case. We kind of ran into a brick wall of silence. There's a lot of talk about the wonderful, ideal status of women in Shari'a, but then when a woman is being abused in a clear, documented (by Muslims) violation of Shari'a, there's no talk. It's a shame when non Muslims are out there working on her behalf while Muslims are silent. Human Rights Watch and other groups are against the punishment in her case for the usual reasons -- they hate and misunderstand Shari'a and feel that everyone should conform to these modern conventions. However, serious SHARI'I errors are found in her case... Muslims can, in good conscience, protest her sentence without worrying that they are somehow sending the message that they are against Shari'a in N. Nigeria or anywhere else. http://members.aol.com/muslimarights/alerts.htm Scroll down to December 13. There are IMRA documents and letters, as well as outside sources on the case. (IMRA is a small, loose knit group of Muslim women working to raise awareness on behalf of Muslim women's rights. We view Islam and Shari'a as her liberator, not her oppressor.) |
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| Anik |
| 01/21/02 at 03:34:04 |
| asalamu alaikum, [quote]There's a lot of talk about the wonderful, ideal status of women in Shari'a, but then when a woman is being abused in a clear, documented (by Muslims) violation of Shari'a, there's no talk. [/quote] Say that a million times so every muslim hears this and it gets through to them. [quote] It's a shame when non Muslims are out there working on her behalf while Muslims are silent. [/quote] yo straight-up as we would say in the hip hop culture. aslaamu alaikum. abdullah,. |
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| kareema |
| 01/21/02 at 03:44:41 |
| Yeah, it's almost as if they think an attack on Sharia is the same as an attack on the abuse of Shariah. Its an duty on every Muslim to stop oppression even against other Muslims, even if they claim to follow Shariah. Just goes to show how much farther we Muslims have to go, though. And what about the guy involved in this? I've never heard of sane people simply being allowed to withdraw confessions? |
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| akbalkhan |
| 01/21/02 at 09:51:24 |
| Wa Lakum as Salam, Unfortunately, there will be people in Nigeria, and the EU who will take Muslims' protests of this particular case, to warrant a wholesale toppling of Shariah there. For all those people who intend to send a letter of protest, might I also encourage you, assuming you have not already done so, to also send a separate and equally lengthy letter of encouragement for their efforts in establishing Shariah? I just don't think its right nor fair for the Muslims of the world to finally come to have a dialogue with Nigerias Shura, and have it be initiated with criticism of their decisions. I totally agree with the above posts. I have yet to visit the site recommended, but I think it is easy to judge this case and its merits from the sidelines, but no one knows the hearts, or intentions of the judges presiding here, and I think it quite a presumption to assume they are just out for this woman's blood at the risk of following Shariah. Regards, Qamar Akbal Kaan |
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| humble_muslim |
| 01/22/02 at 07:25:42 |
| AA Someone correct me if I'm wrong. There are necessary pre-cursors to the implementation of Sharia. Now Nigeria is known to be a VERY corrupt country. So how can you establish Sharia, which is based on justice, when there is no guaraentee - because of the corruption issues - that all the judges will be just ? This is what happened in Pakistan when General Zia established the Hudood punishments. It was abused by men who would divorce their wives and accuse them of adultery. |
| NS |
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| akbalkhan |
| 01/22/02 at 09:28:35 |
| I'm not going to go around saying that this judge is corrupt, with or without all the facts. It's easy to shout down a Shariah government on account of improprieties, but its far harder to establish one later on, even with a so-called guarantee of justice. I think that it is quite safe to say that with huddud established anywhere, there are going to be people outraged over consequences handed down. It seems to me that we should definitely be concerned about the treatment of women in such cases, but not at the risk of uniting Muslim voices with those of the kaffir calling more a dismantling of Shariah in its entirety, and not just the replacement of a particular judge. Deomocracy has long been at work, setting its laws, enforcing them, and appealing to the general rationale of the world, but has yet to really do anything for women. There have been many men killed vigilante style over rape cases that didn't even get seen by a court, yet there is no outrage or world outcry over these people. I think that people do not know what they are doing when they chime in with the EU on this matter. The EU wants to get rid of Shariah, not just save this woman. Our consideration should be for the future of Shariah in this country. Granted, this woman may very well be telling the truth, and this guy who did that could be the scum of the earth. I am speaking more to the effect that women's rallying cry against this decision in Nigeria, is only going to bring about more corruption and infighting, and the defeat of Shariah, in whatever form it can be found there. But of course women will have their rights if Shariah is defeated there, right? If the kaffir media has ever worked so well, it has when women gather around their particular issues at the expense of concentrating efforts that could result in a more resounding and resonating cry FOR Shariah, despite the incompetence and injustice that may result from its' incorrect administration. To lay a blanket claim on Nigeria, of its corruption and injustice towards women, is worse than being silent. No one still has answered my original question and issue: If you plan on taking action, make sure that this is not the only time that you communicate or talk about Nigeria and its struggle to implement al-Islam. |
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| humble_muslim |
| 01/22/02 at 09:40:56 |
| AA Br. Akbalkhan, if you are going to reply to my posts, please reply in the context of what I am saying. I am simply asking whether, according to Shariah itself, Nigeria is ready for Shariah with its track record for corruption. If there are any Nigerians on this board, please let me know what you think. |
| NS |
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| kareema |
| 01/23/02 at 03:09:29 |
| I don't plan to take any action either way, not being well-versed enough in what is going on, Islamically or with regards to the facts of the case. |
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