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| Just a question for you daddies... |
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| veilsofbeauty |
| 01/25/02 at 14:15:46 |
| Salaam, K, one of my friends was at a mosque few years ago, and they were praying Taraweeh. After they all said salaam, everyone heard this blood-curling shriek from a lil' girl in the basement :O. All these men rushed downstairs to find this little girl crying so hard, b/c this little boy hit or bit her (something like that). The girl's father found the kid, and gave him such a slap, that he REALLY went across the room, and then gave him another, and another.... Would you do the same thing if a kid hurt your kid? Do find this acceptable or not? Just curious to see what the brothas would think |
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| mujaahid |
| 01/25/02 at 14:30:32 |
| Salaam. His behaviour is NOT acceptable. In fact it is disgraceful. You cannot strike a muslim on the face, let alone smash up a little kids face, muslim or not! This man who done this, in my opinion is a thug, and a real fool! Why didnt anyone stop the guy when he decided to use this kid as a Slapbag? If i was the girls Father, what i would have done is found the kid, given him a good ticking off, probably threatened him and gone to his parents and told them what he done. But i would NEVER beat up another kid! Imagine how the kids father would feel and how he'd react if he saw his little baby being whacked around by a fully grown man! If someone done that to my kid, i would put this man in hospital (while sparing his face of course), and teach him a lesson, ie. NEVER beat a little kid, no matter what, because his family will find you, and do the same back to you. Their are ways to deal with most situations, but to beat a child is sad, cowardly, brutal and in the end will probably result in the man getting a good beating himself, and just making enemies. I aint saying turn the other cheek, but NOT turning the other cheek dont mean beating up a little kid! Kids fight, they hit each other, its part of growing up. Parents should be able to punish, and restrain kids who get violant. But to resort to the disgraceful act of attacking another child because he hit your baby is unforgivable. This kind of behaviour is commen amongst native South Asians (india/Pakistan/Babngladesh), although not exclusively. I have seen with my own eyes such men getting beaten for attacking another mans child. Sadly i was only a wee little kid then, so unable to stop anything. |
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| veilsofbeauty |
| 01/25/02 at 14:42:13 |
| I agree totally, and y'know what Bro. Mujaahid. Nobody did or said anything to the guy! |
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| mujaahid |
| 01/25/02 at 14:49:29 |
| Salaam Veils Of Beauty you wrote <Nobody did or said anything to the guy> How come? Who were these other people? Where is this? What part of the world? And what nationality were these people (as in what part of the world do the originate from)? Because where i live and i'm sure this is the same for most communities, the others simply would not stand by, they would intervene, stop the man, restrain him, calm him down! The only people who wouldnt, i'm assuming, is those that have similar mentlaities to the man attacking the child! What happend after that? Did that little boys parents or relatives do anything to retaliate? |
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| kiwi25 |
| 01/25/02 at 15:01:19 |
| salam, i agree with mujahid on this one. it is all part of growing up, kids always play like that, he needs to find a better way to solve his temper, what ever happened to the little kid who got slapped? was he hurt badly? inshallah i pray not.. wasalam nouha:) |
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| explorer |
| 01/25/02 at 15:12:39 |
| It was totally out of order. Despite the anger he must have felt seeing his lil daughter bleeding and crying, he doesn't have the right to attack someone elses child, let alone in such a brutal manner. Call it a fit of rage but it will only brew more trouble (with the boys parents). What did the lil' boys parents do? |
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| BroHanif |
| 01/25/02 at 19:36:56 |
| Aww, [quote]Do find this acceptable or not? [/quote] Depends how old the lil one was. If its a brutal man, then his gonna be explaining to me and the cops why he did it. But at times, sometimes you just lash out because you can't bear your family to be hurt. there are some real evil people in the world, and I mean those perverts who pray on little boys and girls. The only justice they need to have is spending time at Antartica with the Penguins in the water. My daughter will always be my baby even when she's 30 and I'm fit and healthy, if any man or woman touches her in the wrong way. I'll be ready to make my fists do the talking if dialogue first dosen't work. |
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| Kathy |
| 01/25/02 at 20:58:28 |
| slm I agree with Mujahiid. [i] (Kathy is so shocked she wrote this that she fell off her chair)[/i] Gotta get that chair fixed! I think I would have broken all bounds of seperation of men/ women, and hauled off at him.- especially if no one responded. All kids, of every ethnic background, go thru the hitting/biting stage- ([i]except my boy![/i]) It was up to the parents to discipline the child, not the ogre. I absoulutely would ask the parents press charges. If they wouldn't I would be in the guys face so bad that he would probably hit me- and then I would press charges! Yep- this is the other side of Kathy- the side Mujahiid said you don't want to mess with. |
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| Caraj |
| 01/26/02 at 09:57:42 |
| I agree with Mujaahid and Kathy. I tend to also feel the protective motherly nature as Kathy mentioned. Had someone done that to my sons when they ere young, I'd of gone after this father myself. ( there is no seperation of men and women when dealing with a mother bear and her cubs:O ) One slap I would of considered disapline (although I would prefer doing my own disapline with my own son) But after the first one, well that was pure rage and abuse. I am a firm believer of Phys disapline under certain circumstances. Do you happen to know if the boy was much older than the little girl and/or a prior trouble maker? No difference anyway, in the face and not by the parent I still say ... one slap=disapline, more than that= rage, abuse. I can't believe no one did anything. :O :O :O |
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| veilsofbeauty |
| 01/26/02 at 15:52:02 |
| Salaams, Sorry, i didnt reply soon enough. Exams and all... Anyways, all I know is this took place somewhere in Michigan, and the guy was Arab. I'd have to ask my friend more about it. |
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| Marcie |
| 01/27/02 at 10:14:31 |
| As salamu alaykum, I just want to know where the Imam was? I would think that he had the resposibility to step in and deflate the situation. Another thing that would worry me is how this brother treats his own kids at home when he is angry? Just some of my thoughts. As salamu alaykum Marcie |
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| Sparrow |
| 01/27/02 at 12:37:54 |
| Hi all, I would *never* be okay with someone striking my child (when I have one, that is), even under the guise of discipline (I'm not talking parental discipline here, though) and I agree with Kathy, I probably would have gone BALLISTIC and jumped on that guy myself. Just my two cents, Sparrow |
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| Caraj |
| 01/27/02 at 13:26:42 |
| (Charlie) Totally unacceptable. I would of talked to the child and let him know it was wrong and make him feel bad then have a talk with the parents. If I had been there I would of stepped in and said something. I have actually had to do that before. |
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| Rehana |
| 01/28/02 at 03:58:15 |
| [slm] bsm This makes my heart cry :-( and raises so many qusetions, one of which is, why were the children left unsupervised in the first place? Where was this child's parents while this was happening? How can people BEHAVE in this manner in a mosque? May Allah guide us all. [slm] [center][sub][color=blue]Abu Hurairah (RAA) reported that the messenger of Allah (SAW) said what translated means:[/sub][/color] [color=red]" A person is not strong by knocking down (his rival). The strong person is he who controls himself when he is angry."[/color] [color=green][sub]Al-Bukhari[/sub][/color][/center] |
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