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| a_Silver_Rose |
| 01/06/03 at 18:40:46 |
| [slm] I have two questions that my friend told me to find out about. ??? First I want to say that on these questions I want strong backup of Quran and/or Hadith. 1.) When is it allowed to leave prayer while you are in the middle of it? when the phone rings? or when it is a life threatening situation? or is it not allowed to break it all. From what I know I believe one shouldnt break the prayer just if a phone call rings but only in an emergency situation. I need evidence from Quran and sunnah though... 2.) What is the Islamic view on birthdays? Is it allowed to celebrate or not? I have heard its haram but i believe noone has given strong enough evidence for this. Another view which i have read/heard and believe is that it is allowed to celebrate but one should not make it the biggest thing and spend excessively as some people do... Again i need strong evidence Jazak Allahu Kairon Your Sister in Islam |
| 01/06/03 at 18:42:08 |
| a_Silver_Rose |
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| jannah |
| 01/07/03 at 01:28:19 |
| There's been a lot of Fatwa questions as of recently. Please, since there are no scholars on the board and many many opinions, it's better for everyone to ask someone knowledgable they trust instead of getting a smorgasboard (no pun intended) of stuff here. |
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| a_Silver_Rose |
| 01/07/03 at 14:01:57 |
| [slm] Yes I understand...This was a part for questions and I thought maybe there are some knowledgable people here and thats why Im asking for hadith and Qur'anic ayah if anyone knows... My research is not limited to here, dont worry I will ignore opinions ... but maybe someone here has done some research or knows ;) |
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| Emerald |
| 01/07/03 at 15:58:22 |
| [slm] I agree with Jannah, Silver. BUT as an opinion, I personally have never celebrated birthdays because I know the Prophet (pbuh) tried to avoid imitation of the kuffar in many ways. So I try to do as he does and avoid imitating them as in the case of birthdays. On a non -religious view, I see no true benefit to it. I also wonder why sometimes people celebrate it when the fact is that they're getting a year closer to death and Allah's (swt) judgement - whenever that is. ??? As for breaking the salat, I know that I am before Allah (swt) while praying so in a way I try to remind myself of that during prayer. If people did that more often, it would come as common sense when to leave Allah presence and when not to. Obviously to answer a phone call can wait ;) If, on the other hand, the house was on fire and I was about to go up in flames, I doubt Allah (swt) will be angered at my action to flee. I just think Allah is Merciful so much and we should believe in His mercy but at the same time not take advantage of it. Wa Allahu A'lam Emerald |
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| Saffiyah |
| 01/07/03 at 17:47:08 |
| [slm] I did a bit of research for u..even though i shud be doing my endless amount of work :( At least i had a bit of a break. Here are some answers i think to ur q's. They are from the www.islam-qa.com site Answering the telephone whilst praying http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=8647&dgn=3 Stopping one’s prayer in cases of necessity http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=3878&dgn=3 The baby started to choke whilst her mother was praying http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=7698&dgn=3 Celebrating birthdays is not allowed http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=1027&dgn=3 [wlm] |
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| a_Silver_Rose |
| 01/07/03 at 18:11:43 |
| [slm] Jazak Allahu Kairon sister Saffiyah for your time and effort. I am not convinced about the birthdays though.... I have heard the same hadiths but they do not specifically say birthday... I guess its the way you interpret it. One of the hadiths mentioned not adding to your religion.. .I dont think birthday is an addition... I just think its a part of life.. its the day you were born but Allah Knows best. I do not know the history of celebrating birthdays and they did not give it so I dont even believe that it was taken from christianity or judaism. From what i know if its not affecting anyone and there is nothing unislamic in the party or little gathering or even just celebrating between family then there is no problem. Anyways Allah knows best... these are just my views. I was wonderng if there is any hadith or if they use to back then celebrate the day they were born specifically because my freind wants evidence.....Also I wanted to add... some fatwas use the same hadiths to say that exchanging engagement rings is not permitted thank you very much again your sister |
| 01/07/03 at 18:18:33 |
| a_Silver_Rose |
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| a_Silver_Rose |
| 01/07/03 at 18:25:26 |
| [wlm] sister Emerald Sister thankyou for your opinion... I know that as Muslims we thank God everday.. Alhumdulilah.. but during a birthday you can also look at it as a nother time/year to Thank God for giving us a chance to do more good deeds.. Alhumdulilah... and Allah knows Best.. your sister PS Im not sure of the history of birthday celebrating... although somebody told me that they used to celebrate during prophets time.. (i have no idea about this though) If i do find out about the history or some other hadith/Quranic ayah that its wrong . im very open to changing my view insh'Allah. |
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| Saffiyah |
| 01/07/03 at 18:39:12 |
| [slm] I havent heard of any evidence cited backing b-days..mayb someone will post something..or like sis jannah said u could ask ur imam or someone knowledgable... I personally dont like celebrating bdays cos from my experience ppl tend to go overboard and when a bday is menioned..it automatically means the children have to have a cake, presents, food, invite friends, decorations and i think this can get a bit much for parents, esp if they have more children it can be quite expensive. The children i'veseen just get used to the idea that they will be getting loads of expensive presents (which they ahve chosen bcos if u buy something they dont like they will just go on having tantrums) which end up lost or broken afer a few weeks. Neway enuf of my ranting...i am just looking at it from a parents POV (not that i'm a parent) but just for parents who cant afford to be buying gifts for children on bdays and eid. Neway i know this was nothing u asked for but it just reminded me of a little girl who was inviting her frineds to a Qul-party...basically a party to celebrate that she had learnt her 4 Quls (the 4 surahs beginning with Qul...) I thought this was a really good idea for families who dont celebrate bdays..this puts more emphasis on the children Islamic learning as well as well as being able to have a party (cos or those children who dont celebrate bday's they mite feel left out when other ppl r talkig about theirs) |
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| a_Silver_Rose |
| 01/07/03 at 20:00:43 |
| [wlm] Yes sister Saffiyah I agree with you.. in my first post i wrote: "Another view which i have read/heard and believe is that it is allowed to celebrate but one should not make it the biggest thing and spend excessively as some people do... " Qul party! wow! :-Xthats a cool idea ;) take care And thanks again for the information... My friend appreciated it :-* Jazak Allahu Kairon Your sis |
| 01/07/03 at 20:01:48 |
| a_Silver_Rose |
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| Abu_Atheek |
| 01/08/03 at 01:59:51 |
| [slm] • Celebrations — anniversaries and the like Some people celebrate certain anniversaries, such as the birthday of a child or death of a relative. What I would like to know is whether such celebrations are acceptable or not from Islamic point of view. I may add that when death anniversaries are marked they often include certain activities such as a gathering to read the Qur'an and providing food to those who are present. Some religious people suggest that such food may only be given to poor or needy people or to orphan children. Please comment. It is important to know a basic rule in Islam that everything begins as permissible unless something is introduced so as to make it forbidden. This may be a clear verdict of prohibition stated in the Qur'an or in a Hadith or it may be a particular aspect of that thing which takes it out of the realm of what is permissible in order to make it forbidden. Moreover, the authority to prohibit anything belongs to God alone. No one may slam a verdict of prohibition on any matter without supporting his view with clear evidence from the Qur'an or the Prophet's statements or practices. If we take the two practices that you have mentioned and say that either or both of them are forbidden we need to support our verdict. If we cannot produce such evidence whatever we say is without foundation. Let us begin with birthdays. We have nothing in the Qur'an or the Sunnah to say that the marking of the birthday of children is forbidden. Therefore, we have to look at the action itself in order to find out whether it includes anything contrary to Islamic teaching or principles. If it does, then it will be forbidden on the basis of what it includes, not on the basis of what it is. Bearing this in mind, we can say that if parents celebrate the birthday of their children to imitate non-Muslims, feeling that the practices of such non-Muslims are better than those Islam encourages, then such a celebration is forbidden. Similarly, if adults mark their own birthday by organizing a function in which un-Islamic practices are condoned, then that is also forbidden. However, if parents organize a birthday party for their young child in which children gather to have some games, sing and have some food and enjoy themselves generally, then there is nothing wrong with that. Commemorating the death anniversary of any person is not acceptable because it is borrowed from the practices of other religions. While it is permissible, and indeed encouraged to pray God to have mercy on those of our relatives who are dead and that He may forgive them all their sins, and also to read the Qur'an and pray God to credit the reward of our recitation to the deceased, what is done in some communities where death anniversaries are common practice does not win Islamic approval. To start with, the practices themselves are worship practices, but they were not practiced or approved by the Prophet. Hence, they are innovations. That is sufficient to make them unacceptable. The Prophet says: "Whosoever introduces into this matter of ours (meaning Islam) something that does not belong to it shall have it rejected." Secondly, the provision of food into these functions is done in a way that Islam rejects. While giving food to poor people or orphans is highly commendable, the way it is done in these functions makes it totally different. To start with, the food is placed at a certain place and the rituals are then made in a way so as to suggest that this food is special. Besides, the notion that this food may only be eaten by the poor is alien to Islamic thinking. We may recall here that when a pilgrim slaughters a sheep in pilgrimage or when the Eid sacrifice is slaughtered, we are expressly advised to "eat of it and feed the needy poor." It is only when the sacrifice is offered in compensation for a missed duty that we are not allowed to eat of it. In this case it is a penalty for an omission. If the person offering it were to eat of it, the purpose of the sacrifice will be missed and the offender will be rewarded rather than penalized. All innovations in matters of religion are unacceptable, which means they are forbidden [url]http://www.ourdialogue.com/c1.htm#2[/url] |
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| a_Silver_Rose |
| 01/08/03 at 16:00:05 |
| [wlm] Jazak Allahu Kairon Thankyou very much Brother for your time and effort also. I did find my answers :-* now I have two different views...(I agree with this one also..) Thanks Again your sister |
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