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| Sarah |
| 01/11/03 at 17:46:29 |
| As salamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullah, These Forums i have found to be much beneficial than many other forums, InshaAllah please try and visit them: (1) Khutbah Forum: This is moderated by Shaykh Muhammad Alshareef, you can ask your fiqh questions here, he has a bachelors of Sharee'ah from Madeenah University, and is very capable in supplying proper answers to your questions. Go to: http://www.khutbah.com from there you can read his articles and khutbahs. To get to the Khutbah Forum, click on Discussion Forum on the main page of khutbah.com ------- (2) As-Sahwah Message Board: This is moderated by Many righteous Brothers and Sisters (and Allah knows best) from Britian. The information is very nice, and there is nice debates over many Islamic issues. Most conversations provide you with Qur'an and Sunnah proofs. It's very clear to read. I would recommend highly this message board as well as the previous. Go to: http://www.as-sahwah.com from there click on Message Board which is located above the flashing advertising banner. |
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| Sarah |
| 01/11/03 at 17:51:24 |
| (3) ClearGuidance Message Board: This message board is unique in the sense that it is 3 in 1. There are 3 seperate language sections. Arabic, English and Urdu. So you can discuss different Issues in either of the 3 languages. It is properly moderated by many good brothers (and Allah knows best). A unique thing about this message board is that it highly talks about Jihad, and encourages and reminds the brothers and sisters about the struggles of the Muslim Ummah throughout the world. May Allah bless us with more people speaking out about the truth and using their time wisely, Ameen. Go to: http://www.clearguidance.com |
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| jannah |
| 01/11/03 at 19:40:57 |
| Sarah I'm wondering why you are here as opposed to those other places? Just wanting to reform us? |
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| Sarah |
| 01/11/03 at 20:02:02 |
| As salamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullah, Sister Jannah, i think you have judged my intentions. May Allah guide us all. I do feel that you are not happy with many posts that i have posted. I do feel if the subject matter is islamic you race to close the doors to that subject unless its pleasing to your rationale. Is there a problem why you dislike people to discuss things related to our deen? Or is idle talk the only permitted speech on this message board? InshaAllah if you feel that i have over stepped your boundaries, you can ask me to leave. I will abide by your request. And no, i am not here to reform? And what exactly is that suppose to mean? Jazakallahu Khayran wa salams |
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| jannah |
| 01/11/03 at 20:59:38 |
| Dear Sarah, I'm sure you believe your intentions are right and that you are correct in what you say, but there is a fine line in offending someone and giving information in the dawah sense. May Allah help us all. The threads where you posted were closed because this is not a fatwa forum like the one's you posted above. There are no scholars here. We do not trade fatwas here because we are not faqihs and nor is there anyone knowledgable enough here to actually make pronouncements on these issues where our scholars differ... ie the niqab issue,music/movies, what a poem really means, etc etc. There are also certain topics that are banned here. This is all in the constitution. Please read it over and if you can't abide by it feel free to leave. This is nothing personal. It is what we on this board have all agreed to, if this is not Islamic enough for you that's fine as well. This is a different kind of board and it has a different idealogy that cannot possibly appeal to all. For the curious, the main idealogy of this board is positive and cultural reinforcement of Islam. That means instead of posting "This is haram/That's haram/You're haram", we post positive articles about things, try to encourage people together, learn things together, discuss ways to be better together. We also share our lives and problems we have in our daily life, in practicing our way of life. It goes against the grain and I flinch every time I see someone post "Oh that's haram" when someone is discussing the Islamic aspects of something to someone else. My question is who exactly are they trying to help? Certainly not the people that were discussing because the negativity just transfers and it's seen as only trying to conform to "other ppls beliefs". They're certainly not da'ees and they're certainly not scholarly enough to be able to judge other people's actions. I'll give an example.. let's say 2 sisters are discussing hijab... one posts asking if it is ok to wear hijab to mosque even if you don't wear it at home and the other responds about how wrong it is not to wear hijab and then a 3rd writes back and says forget all that niqab is the only way to go and everything else is haram. Who's the daee here? Neither of them. Has any of them actually helped the sister? No. They've only given her what "they think is the correct way of practicing Islam"... and that's the point we're not here to do that..if people want the "correct way of practicing Islam" they can contact their Imam or scholars they trust etc etc.. people who are knowledgable and wise.. and is more than just a cut and paste... that's negative reinforcement or worse.. it makes ppl dislike Islam. The admin here are not the khalifah it's not our job to enjoin the good and forbid the evil as "we understand it". We do our best in keeping things Islamic but it's only a message board after all.. let's not make it more than that. |
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| Sarah |
| 01/11/03 at 21:44:05 |
| Wa alaikum as salam wa Rahmatullah, Jazakamullahu Khayran for your clarity and taking the time to explain. I do appreciate this. May Allah forgive me if I insulted you. However, I would like to comment on something’s please do not take offense: My posting on the hijab I did not mention a specific opinion I mentioned the general opinion, and as I looked through some previous posts, I did find sister Sofia had posted a similar subject, I failed to see her thread "locked." I am not trying to complain, I just feel some unfairness is going on here. Another issue you mentioned about doing dawah and how this is a place to "try to encourage people together". I do not feel that I was being discouraging in anyway. I was trying to help others with the questions that they had. Maybe you felt i was discouraging, perhaps you could have spoken to me with a little respect and say perhaps its better we do not discuss this topic. But you were quite rough with the locking of the threads, and the sarcasm towards me. Also, I presented my points with Qur’an and Sunnah and you seem to dislike that and jump to thinking that that is producing a fatwa or is fatwa-making. A fatwa is not a talk about an issue relevant to our deen. I think a little bit more study is needed on the term Fatwa. Even in one section a brother was asking about seeing women without socks in Makkah. That thread was locked? Why?? He wants an explanation or an understanding, and he is shut out for that. Even if you read your reply to him, it was not very polite. Its not a matter of fatwa, it is a matter of our deen to learn. I do not find that you yourself are being encouraging to your fellow brothers and sisters. Allah knows best. Even, Whenever I have posted I tried to link it with the Qur’an and Sunnah to express that It is not my opinion but it is the saying of Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him). This is our deen. We follow Allah and we follow His Messenger (peace be upon him). As well, I do feel you have been quite rude in some of your replies. Which is very hurtful for me to see, for I know you are the Adminstrator. Such as comments “if you think movies are haram stay out of this thread.” That is just one example. There are many more, but inshaAllah there is no benefit in posting them. InshaAllah I will leave on my own. I thought I could be a benefit to my brothers and sisters, and them to me. But I think this is a dead end, I will just be getting threads locked up. Allah knows best. Jazakallahu Khayran for allowing me to post a few things. May Allah guide us all to what is right. Ameen. Wa alaikum as salam wa rahamtullah wa barkatuh |
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| jannah |
| 01/12/03 at 01:14:44 |
| wa iyyaki, there's nothing personal here. This is an explanation of the rulings of the board, which you were probably not aware of or not familiar with - they are also contained without exegis in the constitution which you can read by clicking in the paragraph at the top that says "City Constitution". In the Niqab thread you asked about, I had already posted asking people to post only their experiences and hoped the thread would not turn into posting fatwas. Posting opinions from scholars on the issue of Niqab is a fatwa, whether it's nicely phrased or not. Hence the thread was closed. The issue of niqab by the way is also a banned topic. Sophia's post is her own experience/ideas about jilbab. I have no problem about people posting about their experiences, but the issue here is when people ask a fiqh/fatwa question and then people who are not faqih's answer back or cut and paste their favorite fatwa or opinion. That's why its not allowed. That's why the socks thread was closed as well. What is the point of someone pasting a fatwa that says no its haram and then someone else posts saying yes its ok etc etc.. endlessly and no one here is even experienced or educated or knowledgable enough to even compare fatwas let alone make them. There are also many other issues involved like not taking into account the person's situation or the whole question. I mean you are new here sister and probably don't realize the havoc and detrimental effects this can have on a person and their life when someone posts a certain opinion without all the background and the person acts on it! It's just not right and I'm sure you nor I want to be responsible for that. I realize that some people feel they know what they are doing but honestly I can't take the chance because over the years we've seen what happens when we let a "niqab thread" run riot or other things... Your threads aren't wrong in themselves, it's just that because of things that have happenned in the past, we have these rules to prevent the "potential" problems that may occur. And that is not allowing fatwa questions and if people post them to give them alternatives because there is no one knowledgable enough to give fatwas or even cut and paste fatwas here. Now really ask yourself, if you were administrator of a board and someone posted asking for an Islamic ruling on something would you allow any person to just post a fatwa and then someone else to post a completely opposite fatwa and so on. Or even worse, someone posts a related fatwa that gives an answer that is very hard and says this is from Quran and Sunnah and any other opinion is not from ahlus sunnah wal jamah and anything else is haram, that it is the only "authentic" way and then the person leaves Islam because of this stated opinion. It's happened. In the past. On this board. There are other posts I've written on this subject.. whole threads where we even discussed this topic of allowing or not allowing "posting of fatwas" and the consensus is that there is a lot of good in it.. people need answers.. they need to learn..they need quran and sunnah... all the things you mentioned...but when it comes down to it there is a lot of harm in allowing everyone and anyone to post their fatwas.. and right now the harm outweighs any good here. Perhaps we are wrong in this judgement and perhaps things will change in the future, but for now this is how we run this board. We understand if you can't accept this. PS. As for any personal insult I didn't intend any and hope you will forgive any offense. May Allah accept our efforts and guide us to make the best decisions for all involved. |
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