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| Wearing CAP while Praying |
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| Zameer |
| 01/23/03 at 06:21:38 |
| [slm] I have noticed back home in Sri Lanka, people are very serious about wearing cap while praying, even now most people look at you as an ignorent if you attend prayer without caps. But in Saudi Arabia, I dont see any but some asians or african national wear cap.. Some says it is Sunna.. and I read in a book called Fiq ussunna by Syed Sabic, says wearing cap has nothing to do with prayer and it is a cultural practise. Could any clarify this |
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| Fatimah |
| 01/23/03 at 17:19:55 |
| [slm] there is a difference of opinion about this. Sheikh AlBaani says its a must because the Prophet (saw) never prayed without a turban on (the hadith that he used his turban for a sutra is weak) and others say it is cultural. Allahu Alim :) |
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| Zameer |
| 01/25/03 at 13:51:09 |
| [slm] Well, if this really a part of sunnah.. then definately during haj all men should wear .. but non does.. so here we could understand this may be not a must or no part of Islam [wlm] |
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| Fatimah |
| 01/25/03 at 16:30:37 |
| Hajj has different rulings. Women arent suppose to wear niqab in Hajj, yet its part of Islam and also sunnah. (the Prophet's wives wore it) so again, Allahu Alim :) |
| 01/25/03 at 16:33:53 |
| Fatimah |
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| Fatimah |
| 01/25/03 at 16:38:05 |
| salam alaikum, Again, i will say there is a difference of opinion in this, im just giving you some views :) I found this for you: Question: Is it a sunnah to wear a cap (or turban) especially during salat? I see many 'learned' brothers simply say that this is not sunnah and therefore pray without covering the head. Does Rasulullah Sallalahu Alaihi wassalam wear a turban or cap all the time even outside salat? Is this an Arab tradition or something that Allah recommended Rasul SAW to do as an example to his ummah? Answer: Praise be to Allaah. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “O Children of Adam! Take your adornment (by wearing your clean clothes) while praying…” [al-A’raaf 7:31] If covering the head is customarily regarded as a part of adornment in a particular country, then the head should be covered, otherwise it does not have to be covered. And Allaah knows best. Islam Q&A Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid (www.islam-qa.com) |
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| Fatimah |
| 01/25/03 at 16:42:52 |
| Salam alaikum, here is another view.. just so you have a lot of different opinions :) 5. Praying without covering the head It is permissible to pray in bare head for a man. The head is 'awrah for a woman. However, it is recommended (mustahab) that he is completely dressed for prayer. This includes covering the head with a cap, or turban or something similar from what is customary from his clothes. Uncovering the head without excuse is detested (makroooh) specially in the compulsory prayers and even more specially in congregation. 'Allaamah Albaani said: As for what I see, it is makrooh to pray with the head bare and this is indisputable. It is recommended for Muslims to enter the prayer in full Islamic manner of dressing because of the hadeeth, "Allaah has more right that you beautify for Him." [At-Tahawi, At-tabraani, Al-Baihaqi. See Silsiltus-Saheehah] "This is not from the good manners from the customs of the Salaf to have the head uncovered and walk like that on the road, and enter places of worship like that, but it is from the ways of the foreigner which has infiltrated the Islamic lands when the disbelievers set foot in it, and imported their corrupt custom and the Muslims imitated them in it. So repel it and its likes... ... This is an extraordinary accident and it is not appropriate that it should warrant contradicting the prior Islamic culture, and be taken as an excuse for permission to pray without head-covering." Then 'Allaamah Albaani goes on to explain the mistake of some brothers in Egypt who brought the proof of the permissibility to pray without covering the head by analogising with how the head is uncovered for someone in ihraam during the pilgrimage. This is wrong since not covering the head during the pilgrimage is from the law (Sharee'ah) of Allaah. If their analogy was right them they should make it compulsory to pray without any head covering at all since it is obligatory to do so during the pilgrimage! [Tamaam-ul-Minnah fee ta'leeq 'alaa fiqh-us- Sunnah by 'Allaamah Albaani] It is not established at all that the Messenger (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam) ever prayed outside the pilgrimage with bare head, without a turban/cap. Whoever thinks he did so then he should bring the proof. If he (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam) had done so, it would have been recorded. Let it be known that it is just makrooh for a man to pray with bare head. [Al-Majmoo' - Al-Baghawi etc.] PS: The narration attributed to Ibn 'Abbaas that the Prophet (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam) would sometimes remove his cap and place it as a sutrah in front of him is weak (da'eef). Even if it was authentic then it does not prove praying in bare head since it is compulsory and more important to take a sutrah and it is more evident that he did that to make up for lack of any suitable sutrah. |
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| Zameer |
| 01/26/03 at 12:22:02 |
| At present I live in Saudi Arabia.. I am here for last 14 years and I see 90% of crowd dont wear cap in the mosque during Jumma prayer etc.. But it is opposite in my country you find 90% wearing and 10% including me not wearing.. I do understand it is only one group who will enter paradise directly..but..Saudi Arabia is root of ISLAM.. and if this is a Sunnah the religious leaders, public correctors.. (MUttawas) will adivse us to wear so..but so such thing had ever happend. I lived in a very strict city called AL Qassim for one year. If these mottawas see us standing by road during prayer time they will beat us with the stick, but still they never insisted on wearing a cap.. The ruling is very strange.. within Asian countries... |
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| jaihoon |
| 01/26/03 at 23:45:56 |
| [quote] Saudi Arabia is root of ISLAM [/quote] Are you really serious at that? :D |
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| Fatimah |
| 01/27/03 at 00:24:48 |
| [quote]I do understand it is only one group who will enter paradise directly..but..Saudi Arabia is root of ISLAM.. and if this is a Sunnah the religious leaders, public correctors.. (MUttawas) will adivse us to wear so..but so such thing had ever happend. I lived in a very strict city called AL Qassim for one year. If these mottawas see us standing by road during prayer time they will beat us with the stick, but still they never insisted on wearing a cap..[/quote] [slm] the one group that will enter jannah deals with aqeedah, not fiqh. what we are talking about right now is a fiqh issue. you cannot determine what is sunnah by what the religious correctors correct. you get what is sunnah from hadith. they beat you with a stick because praying is fardh. do they beat you with a stick if you dont pray Qiyam alLayl or if you eat with your left hand? There are sunnah actions that are not punishable if left, yet rewarded if you do them. [i]Perhaps[/i] covering your head is mustahaab to do because it is sunnah, yet its not a must. *im NOT giving you a fatwa, just voicing what I see from the different opinions. Allahu Alim :) |
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| Zameer |
| 01/27/03 at 13:13:56 |
| [quote author=Jaihoon link=board=madrasa;num=1043320899;start=0#7 date=01/26/03 at 23:45:56] Are you really serious at that? :D[/quote] ;D, I understood from your point of laugh..yes it not true but... still comparing to the Asians my dear.. here is far better. May be the sins these people commit seems to be very serious because of the reasons that we recognise them by their look, even a small scratch can be seen as big issue by the foreigners.. But there are lots of sins committed within the Asian muslim never identified because they dont have an identity of appearance as how an Arab has. So the Asian muslim commits and vanishes within the crowed. Well, yes there are lots of things I dont agree with, and the drawback is that they are materially civilized and mentally still under development.. ;) |
| 01/27/03 at 13:22:15 |
| Zameer |
| Re: Wearing CAP while Praying |
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| Zameer |
| 01/27/03 at 13:29:08 |
| [quote author=truthfinder link=board=madrasa;num=1043320899;start=0#8 date=01/27/03 at 00:24:48] [slm] the one group that will enter jannah deals with aqeedah, not fiqh. what we are talking about right now is a fiqh issue. you cannot determine what is sunnah by what the religious correctors correct. you get what is sunnah from hadith. they beat you with a stick because praying is fardh. do they beat you with a stick if you dont pray Qiyam alLayl or if you eat with your left hand? There are sunnah actions that are not punishable if left, yet rewarded if you do them. [i]Perhaps[/i] covering your head is mustahaab to do because it is sunnah, yet its not a must. *im NOT giving you a fatwa, just voicing what I see from the different opinions. Allahu Alim :) [/quote] IGNORE GOING TO HEAVEN SECTION........BY MISTAKE I JUST INCLUDED THAT... YOU SEEM TO BE FROM EGYPT... IT IS MR. SEYYED SABIC WHO IS FROM EGYPT AS WELL QUOTED BY COMBINING ALL HADEEDS AND FINALLY CONCLUDING TO THE POINT IT IS NOT SUNNA EVEN... SO COULD YOU HELP ME FIND AN CONCRETE HADEED.... |
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| Fatimah |
| 01/27/03 at 21:33:49 |
| [slm] here are some hadiths that show the prophet (saw) covered his head, both in salat and out of salat. im not saying this is a must to do, but because he wore it, i *think* it would be sunnah, wouldn't it? Narrated Ja'far bin 'Amr: My father said, "I saw the Prophet passing wet hands over his turban and Khuffs (leather socks)." (bukhari) 'Urwa b. al Mughira b. Shu'ba reported it on the authority of his father that he said: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) lagged behind (in a journey) and I also lagged behind along with him. After having relieved himself he said: Have you any water with you? I brought to him a jar of water; he washed his palms, and face, and when he tried to get his forearms out (he could not) for the sleeve of the gown was tight. He, therefore, brought them out from under the gown and, throwing it over his shoulders, he washed his forearm. He then wiped his forelock and his turban and his socks. He then mounted and I also mounted (the ride) and came to the people. They had begun the prayer with 'Abd ar-Rabmin b. 'Anf leading them and had completed a rak'a. When he perceived the presence of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) he began to retire. He (the Holy Prophet) signed to him to continue and offered prayer along with them. Then when he had pronounced the salutation, the Apostle (may peace be upon him) got up and I also got up with him, and we offered the rak'a which had been finished before we came. (muslim) Ibn Mughira narrated it from his father: The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) wiped over his socks and over his forehead and over his turban. (muslim) Bakr reported that he had heard from the son of Mughira that verily the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) performed ablution and wiped over his forehead and wiped over his turban and over his socks. (muslim) It is narrated from Bilal that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) wiped over the socks and turban, and in the hadith transmitted by 'Isa b. Yaunus the words are:" Bilal narrated it to me." (muslim) Jabir b. 'Abdullah al-Ansari (Allah be pleased with them) reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) entered Mecca and Qutaiba (another narrator) stated that he entered Mecca in the Year of Victory, wearing a black turban, but not wearing the Ihram. (muslim) Jabir b. Abdullah reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) entered on the day of Victory of Mecca wearing a black turban on his head. and she said: In case Allah cures me I will certainly go and observe prayer in Bait al-Maqdis. She recovered and so she made preparations to go out (to that place). She came to Maimuna. the wife of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him). and after greeting her she informed her about it, whereupon she said: Stay here. and eat the provision (which you had made) and observe prayer In the mosque of the Messenger (may peace be upon him). for I heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) say: Prayer in it is better than a thousand prayers observed in other mosques except the mosque of the Ka'ba. (muslim) Amr b. Huraith reported on the authority of his father that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) addressed the people (on the day of the Victory of Mecca) with a black turban on his head. (muslim) Ja'far b. 'Amr b. Huraith reported his father as saying: As if I am seeing Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the pulpit with a black turban on his head, and its two ends hanging between his shoulders. Abu Bakr (another narrator) did not make mention of:" Upon the pulpit". (muslim) Narrated Anas ibn Malik: I saw the Messenger (peace_be_upon_him) perform ablution. He had a Qutri turban. He inserted his hand beneath the turban and wiped over the forelock, and did not untie the turban. (abu dawud) Narrated AbuSa'id al-Khudri: When the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) put on a new garment he mentioned it by name, turban or shirt, and would then say: O Allah, praise be to Thee! as Thou hast clothed me with it, I ask Thee for its good and the good of that for which it was made, and I seek refuge in Thee from its evil and the evil of that for which it was made. (abu dawud) |
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