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ascetic
02/14/03 at 14:42:25
What do you guys think of this:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=582&e=4&cid=582&u=/nm/20030213/wr_nm/tech_enum_dc

IMHO, this is one more step towards implementing a police state. If this were enforced, tapping online activity will be as easy as tapping phone lines. So someone tapping in can easily follow which sites you visit, what emails you receive and so forth. A scary prospect indeed.

[wlm]
Re: U.S. Endorses Merging Telephone, Internet Numb
jannah
02/15/03 at 01:14:45
[wlm]

bro Zahid, I have no doubts it's already being done. It's quite easy to track someone's online activity. From email, to chat, to anything else. Everything that you do online or on your computer can be tracked and watched. Believe me it's quite easy...
the articles that talk about spyware and tracking  etc are just talking about bringing it into the open, legal and business sphere...
Re: U.S. Endorses Merging Telephone, Internet Numb
jannah
02/17/03 at 14:31:08
ELECTRONIC TRACKING SYSTEM MONITORS FOREIGN STUDENTS
DIANA JEAN SCHEMO, New York Times, 2/17/03
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/17/national/17STUD.html

Mandated after terrorists first bombed the World Trade Center a decade ago
and financed after they destroyed it, a vast new electronic tracking system
became the central element on Saturday in the government's effort to keep
tabs on nearly a million foreign students and scholars in this country.

Through the system, the Student and Exchange Visitor Information System, or
Sevis, schools, colleges and universities will send the federal government
the names, addresses, courses and majors of foreign students, as well as
information on any disciplinary actions against them. Institutions that the
government has not yet certified to log on to the system may no longer
enroll foreign students?

For directors of international programs, it means a daunting new role as
government watchdogs. They worry that mistakes in advising foreign students
or entering data, which might never have been discovered under the old
paper-based system, could have drastic consequences for students?

Larry Bell, director of international students and scholars at the
University of Colorado, got a first-hand look at this new world, after
local immigration agents detained a half-dozen Iranian students in Colorado
during special registration. One of those students, Yashar Zendehdel, had
fallen below the minimum course load for a full-time student when he
switched majors and dropped a course. The law allows foreign students to do
that with university approval, but Mr. Bell said local immigration
officials appeared unfamiliar with the law, and threatened to deport Mr.
Zendehdel.

"It's had a fairly chilling effect on students," Mr. Bell said.

Far from home, they take care to follow the rules, he said. "Then they hear
of students who did everything right and still get the book thrown at
them," he said?

Mr. Zendehdel said that, for him, American policy boiled down to his 40
hours with immigration agents he saw as intent on forcing him out of the
country. While he once urged his brother, sister and friends to study in
the United States, he said, he now advises them to go elsewhere.
Re: U.S. Endorses Merging Telephone, Internet Numb
ascetic
02/17/03 at 15:27:08
[slm]

This is very very unnerving. As it is, students coming directly from abroad are a little edgy because they experience culture shock on arrival. Hidden surveillance, reporting to the INS every year etc. will not help them feel any better.

If this was the case when I first came to study here, I would seriously consider whether it is worth studying in the US. If the surveillance turns into harassment and students start going to the UK/Canada etc, then I think the ultimate loser will be the US because it will lose a lot of very bright students to these intimidating policies.

[wlm]


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