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are arabs racist?
hanna
02/25/03 at 07:09:31
SAlam alikum All

ok i know i shudnt generalise and all ....and guess what ...i dont ....so well basically im not an arab ..but i find myself supporting them whenever sumones putting them down or saying they are racists ...well for most of my life i grew up in an arab country ..and whenever i meet ppl who havent lived in an arab country ..and they ask me aboout arab life and all ...i always paint a very positive good picture ...i know there are all sorts of ppl from every nation ..so there are good ones out there ...
i was just wandering if anyone on the medina board had a good or bad experience wid em??? if u did what was it ?? ...plz keep it to arab racism ...
i hope im not offending the arabs out there ....i think u all are great ppl...
but racism does exist ..as in for most of what ive read and seen in real ..u look down on asians ....u think u ppl are superior for sum weird reason ...
well im not generalising ...hopefully there are good ones too .....
once again plz dont get offended ..just wanna know of any good experiences ppl had wid arabs which will keep me going on ..coz at present im down ...i have had a bad experience ...and i feel that i luv em soo much and they think of asians in particular as inferiors ....well as for westerners ive generally seen ..that arabs are good to em ....prolly coz they look up to them or sumthin ...
wassalam
Re: are arabs racist?
medina
02/25/03 at 14:13:50
Asalaamu alaikum hanna, in response to your question first off I'm not an
arab but I must say from my personal experiences with them I've had no problems and I must say that the ones I've had encounters with were absolutely kind & generous & wonderful, great indeed. I;m sorry to hear that you've had a bad experince but like you said

[quote]i shudnt generalise and all ....and guess what ...i dont [/quote]

and hopefully that was just an isolated incident

[quote]i know there are all sorts of ppl from every nation ..so there are good ones out there .[/quote]

and I might add bad ones also, but keep the faith there are much more good ones than bad ones.
Re: are arabs racist?
jaihoon
02/25/03 at 15:11:50
[quote author=hanna link=board=madrasa;num=1046191146;start=0#0 date=02/25/03 at 07:09:31]SAlam alikum All

ok i know i shudnt generalise and all ....and guess what ...i dont ....so well basically im not an arab ..but i find myself supporting them whenever sumones putting them down or saying they are racists ...well for most of my life i grew up in an arab country ..and whenever i meet ppl who havent lived in an arab country ..and they ask me aboout arab life and all ...i always paint a very positive good picture ...i know there are all sorts of ppl from every nation ..so there are good ones out there ...
i was just wandering if anyone on the medina board had a good or bad experience wid em??? if u did what was it ?? ...plz keep it to arab racism ...
i hope im not offending the arabs out there ....i think u all are great ppl...
but racism does exist ..as in for most of what ive read and seen in real ..u look down on asians ....u think u ppl are superior for sum weird reason ...
well im not generalising ...hopefully there are good ones too .....
once again plz dont get offended ..just wanna know of any good experiences ppl had wid arabs which will keep me going on ..coz at present im down ...i have had a bad experience ...and i feel that i luv em soo much and they think of asians in particular as inferiors ....well as for westerners ive generally seen ..that arabs are good to em ....prolly coz they look up to them or sumthin ...
wassalam[/quote]

in Arabic language, the term for non-Arabic speakers is Ajam meaning dumb  ::)

The immigration policies in the arab countries is a good indicator about their attitude to asians versus to those of Westerners.

enough said  ???

Re: are arabs racist?
Abdullah
02/25/03 at 15:35:41
asalamu alaikum,

In every culture that you go, whether Arab or Indo/Pak or whatever, you will find racists.  Rather, a complex that says to some people that their people are better than the rest;  we know this is an attitude of jahliya (ignorance) and I just dismiss it as such.

I have heard of some attitudes some Arabs might have in terms of seeing other non-Arabs as the unoriginal muslims, and I have seen, on the flipside, non-Arabs who paint th entire Arab people as corrupted, spoiled, divided, and arrogant due to their recieving the mesage of Islam first.  Some people say only go to an Arab sheikh (yes they do), others sy the Arab sheiks are not the best and always go to an Indo-Pak alim.  So you see what kin dof ridiculousness this is?

And yes, in terms of how Arab countries treat outsiders from non-Western countries, it is pathetic that my friend's dad who lived ther fo 25 years or so can't evn be considered a resident of UAE or Saudi Arabia,  forget which one.  The racism being carried out here is on the part of the government, but don't forget that it works the other way a well: non-Arab Weterners make more generally than most Arab local people (a construct of society) and this I feel is a type of self-discrimination.
Re: are arabs racist?
Maliha
02/25/03 at 15:39:57
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With Racism there can be no racism without power. Are those in power Racist? You can determine that by looking at the laws...unfortunately, especially in Saudi Arabia the laws are very much against any one except Saudi's themselves.
But does that mean all arabs are racist?
What about the bedouin? What about the poor person that has no say in the government? What about the many shuyukhs that are tortured for telling the truth?
Like you said Hanna, there are some good and bad people everywhere...The Arabs in general have historically been known for their generosity of spirit and good will...Inshaallah these traits will still be dominant amongst the majority of them.
Every culture is ethnocentric by nature....Pakistani's think they are better than Indians and vice versa, Northern Sudan vs. Southern Sudan, White vs. Black, African American vs. African...etc. etc..this doesn' t make everyone racist...Just ignorant maybe but not racist.

Sis,
Maliha :-)
[wlm]
Re: are arabs racist?
zomorrud
02/25/03 at 21:46:33
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bismillah...
assalamu alaikum,

[code]in Arabic language, the term for non-Arabic speakers is Ajam meaning dumb  [/code]

I think there is a mix up here.  3ajam (the plural of 3ajami) refers to the people of that race, i.e.,  having non-arabic roots ( i think al-furs or persians used to be called 3ajam)

A3jam (a singular term, plural = a3ajim) is a term used to refer to someone who is not eloquent [ghair faseeh] in arabic even if his race is arabic.  

so the take home message is, arabs don't refer to non-arabs by a term meaning 'dumb'!    

by the way, i too have had negative experiences with some arabs.  and i am an arab!!  of course i also have had good experiences.  some people are ignorant, others are not.  it is as simple as that.  just don't take it too personally.


take care
wassalam
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02/25/03 at 21:57:58
zomorrud
Re: are arabs racist?
sister2sister
02/26/03 at 00:56:04
Salaam to all

from experience, most are and few aren't.  Alhamdulillah, I've only had to deal with the few good.  Usually the racist ones are in the states to get away from the deen, the good arabs are there to spread the deen.  It's who you are around and dealing with.  I admit, I have had a few encounters with some really ignorant arabs, but, I have had even more with non arabs too.  I just like to look at the good

1) There was a lebonese sheik who became very close to my family.  if he could have, he would have adopted me and my sisters( no, we are not orphans, thats just how close he was to us).  He was our teacher in the arabic language and fiqh.  He would go out of his way for us. Masha Allah, he was a very good man, not to just us but to many people who need help.

2)  My step-father met a Saudi family and after about 1 visit, we became a family.  He taught my step dad how to properly slaughter animals according to the sharia, his wife, who could not speak english, would always beg my mom to let us stay at her house.  She use to teach us arabic, how to cook arab dishes and etc. As kids, we loved her dearly, she spoiled us rotten. She hated America but loved us and cried the day she left for home because she was leaving us.  They were a good family and I miss them dearly. :'(

3)   My step-father had a friend from I believe he was either lebonese or iraqi (I forgot), they were very close, when ever they were together they'd always laugh. (I think it had to do with some experience they had together ::))

I have others, but I don't want to bore you with them ;)

Masha Allah,I think because I have a  nice, easy to get along attitude, I attract the nice, easy to get along arabs.  I have friends who have had terrible luck when meeting arabs, but then some people think they are not easy to get along with either.

I don't have a problem with anyone so long as they are respectful.

YSII :-)
Re: are arabs racist?
paula
02/26/03 at 02:02:09
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Bi'ithnillah
hmm...... I read this post and then went back quickly to the Hadith I read this morning...... I thought it was applicable ?? ...... from the Al-Islam website:

[quote]Abu Hurairah (may Allah be pleased with him) reported that the Messenger of Allah (may peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) had said:

The Muslim is the brother to the Muslim. He should neither deceive him, nor tell a lie on him, nor disgrace or shame him. Everything (of these three things) of a Muslim is (sacred, and thus) inviolable by another Muslim: his honor, blood and property. Piety is here (and he pointed out to his chest thrice). A Muslim can be sure that he has committed a grievous sin, if he degrades his Muslim brother.

(Agreed upon)

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Lessons deduced
1. The blood, money and honor of Muslims are sanctified.

2. Having disdain for Muslims is one of the most grievous sins, because the Muslim is honored by Allah.

3. When the good Muslim predecessors adhered to such hadiths, they became a strong nation, most feared by their enemies. They dominated other nations and peoples. Yet in later times, when the Muslims ignored these hadiths, differences arose between them and they even fought among each other.
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Sorry to hear about your bad experience..... I pray Allah will assist and comfort you.

As for personally...... well you asked to keep it Arab......... what is that famous quote ?? anyone know ?? ...... something about Racism knows no color ?? ....... I cannot remember it right now....... but on a personal note..... if you Isolate the issue to just Arabs (I'm not Arab myself & I know you have such a valid reasoning behind your question here)...... I think you're going back in to the train of thought you want to get out of.... singling out...... in my experience in other countries and several several nationalities including Arab...... I would say........ Racism is everywhere........ Love and Compassion is everywhere...... and this entire world belongs to Allah (SWT).  

Hmmm...... I'd pray too much Allah can comfort you.  We really don't want acts of Racism to cause us to become Racist ourselves.  The evil is within the one who expresses it........ let it stay there.... and may Allah (SWT) have Mercy on them.....The decietful(evil)...... can be deceptive(tricky).

"Audhu billahi minash shaitanir rajim" ..... "Oh Allah I seek your protection from the rejected Satan"

Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. Al-hamdu lillahi Rabil-'alameen, ar-Rahmanir-Rahim, Maliki yawmid-din. lyyaka na'budu, wa iyyaka nasts'een. Ihdinas-siratal mustaquim, Sir-atallazina an'amta 'alayhim, Ghayril maghdoobi alayhim, wal-dallin (Ameen) ...... In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful. Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the entire universe, the Merciful, the Compassionate, the Master of the Day of Recompense.  You alone do we worship, and You alone do we turn to for help. Direct us on to the Straight Way, the way of those whom You have favoured, who did not incur Your wrath, who are not astray.[/color][/font][/size]

[wlm]
03/09/03 at 20:06:24
paula
Re: are arabs racist?
Halima
02/27/03 at 04:39:35
Growing up as children, we lived with many Arab families.  Some were next door neighbours while others were member of the same community.  We interacted with all of them as Muslims and there were no barriers at all.  As children, we would visit each other's houses, play there, eat there or even sleep there so long as both families are kept advised.

And in my currently neighbourhood, there are lots of Arabs.  There might not be frequent interactions but there has never been any problems with them either.

Now, this is not to say all Arabs are good.  In fact we have heard of experiences of racism.  Arabs could marry women from other Muslims communities but the other Muslim communities can not marry Arab girls/women.  This is simply because the Arabs deemed inferior to their lot.  It has happened here.  There are still some Arabs who still think this way.  I see this as adherence to cultures which are not easily shaken off.  But there are lots of inter-marriages among the Arabs and other Muslims communities these days.

Mind you, it is not only Arabs who see other races as inferior.  Even among African communities, other tribes see other as inferior.  For instance, no girl/woman from my community would dare marry a man from another community even if he is a MUSLIM!!!  But things have changed so much.  We inter-marry with other communities now like never before.  Resistance from elders is still there but they are fighting a loosing battle.

As far as I know, Arabs refer to non-Arabs as Aabid.  It is a degrading word and I am told the meaning is slave (maybe someone here will shade light on the meaning of aabid).  And I think Ajams are Irans.

Racisim runs in all humanity.  It is the degree and manner which differs.

[wlm]

Halima  
Re: are arabs racist?
Taalibatul_ilm
02/27/03 at 06:12:53
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I find this whole thread a little strange.  It seems that many non-Arabs have false ideas about Arabs.  I always wonder why that is, and can only come up with the conclusion that it is lack of knowledge and interaction.  
Allah, in the Glorious Qur'an uses the word a3jamiyy for non-Arab. In surah Al-FuSSilat aayah 44, the interpretation of the meaning is:
"And if We had made it a foreign Qur'an (qura'aanan a'3jamiyyaan), they would have said, Why are its verses not explained in detail [in our language].  Is it a foreign (aa3jamiyyoon) [recitation] and an Arab [messenger]? "
It is a commonly used word and not at all derogatory.  
I have never heard the Arabs used the word 3aabid (slave) for non-Arabs, and I have lived in an Arab country for almost quarter a century and am fluent in the Arabic.    
Your common Arab is the same as the common Pakistani, Iranian, American etc. Muslim.  Some of them are the best Muslims you have ever met, some are not.  I'm just not sure why we have a thread talking exclusively about Arabs and whether they are rascist or not?  I'm sure there are Pakistanis that are rascists, Iranians that are rascists, etc.  No Muslim should be a rascist, and if they are, they are not following the example of our beloved Prophet, Salla Allahu 3layhi wa sallam.
A question then:
If someone tends to generalize about Arabs and give them all the same bad characteristics, is that anti-Arab rascisim?
Re: are arabs racist?
Traveler
02/27/03 at 15:58:32
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  I think the question should be how often and to what extent is one expected to be discriminated against based on race in ones interaction with arabs. And this would give us an idea to the degree of racism.
  For instance, here in America blacks experienced racism before the civil war then after it and now. But surely, the degree of racism from 1861 to 2003 is not the same. Though they're not forced to work on plantaions they are still discriminated so often and to such an extent where it is of concern to all members of the black community.  

  Now to talibs question as to why many non arabs feel to discuss this topic.  Well, I hate to break it you but  many of the non arabs who have interacted with arabs feel or have experienced discrimination so frequently and to such an extent that it can no longer be over looked as isolated events or a degree where one could debate the act to being racist or not.
 Ask anyone from the minority groups who live in the middle east and they'll tell you how big of an issue racism is among the non arab communities living among arabs. let me tell you since I used to be one; It is of concern to almost every member of the minority groups. And to say racism is not an issue is not only wrong but also a show of total apathy with those vast number of people who experience discrimination day in and day out.

     It should also be stated that the level of racism practiced is different among different groups of arabs. At some places it is so rare that it's not even an issue  while at others it is open oppresion. I can personally give the example of saudi arabia where, in my view, saudis practice 21st century slavery.

         
02/27/03 at 16:00:30
Traveler
Re: are arabs racist?
nouha
02/27/03 at 21:47:45
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i agree with the overall statement being made and that is racism exists in every culture/ethnicity/etc.

im an arab. i agree with Traveler when he says that SOME arabs, not all :), treat the minority as second class in some arab countries.

but we see this EVERYWHERE.. in china.. non chinese people arent even allowed into certian restaurants... blacks are treated with almost no respect in the southern united states.. etc

its important to note that there is racism within the Muslim community everywhere... :(...... in out community... the majority is pakistani, and some , not all :), discriminate agaisnt anyone not  pakistani... so its not only arabs that are doing this. i also notice that in our community, african americans are very underepresented...

i think the saddest thing i have experienced and heard are masajids splitting apart due to different ethnicities.... wallah its sad  :'(
in conclusion.... racism exists everywhere... with everyone... its important to realize its not just the arabs.... its the whole muslim community....

wasalam
nouha:)
Re: are arabs racist?
Tesseract
02/28/03 at 01:11:06
Assalamu 'alaikum,

                It really isn't a good idea to generalize and say that ALL Arabs are racists, but how about the people who run the governments of Arab countries? I think they are racists, and if not racists, but still soem kinda discrimination does exist. I was talking to a brother the other day, and he told me that he was planning on moving to an Arab country but whatever info. he has gathered from people currently working in Arab countries or have had past work experiences in Arab countries, say that they are racist/discriminating. He also gave an example and said if a Pakistani, British and American were to apply for the SAME post/position in a company in Saudi Arabia, a Pakistani would be paid/offered SR 30,000, a British would be paid/offered SR 50-60,000, but an American would be paid/offered somewhere between SR 70-100,000. Bottom line he was trying to make out was an American gets twice as a Brit. and thrice as a Pakistani. What do u say?

Wassalam.
Re: are arabs racist?
wired-up
02/28/03 at 03:30:14
Assalamualaikum warahmatullah

Brother bulwarkof islam ...dude you said just what i wanted to say .
After living in kuwait since childhood I have learnt that :

If you are blond haired ,blue eyed ,fair skinned you will get approx $3333 a month.
If you are kuwaiti you will get 3333 /month for the same job but dont have to do any  work.
If you are indian ,bangladeshi,pakistani or srilankan youmust be grateful evan if they give you$650 /month(though months later after its due)  for the same job and are expected to work all day and can be laid off with immediate effect.

I think the maximum discrimination exists in pay-scales .
Wassalam .
Ps:Rascism can exist only in a person ..I dont think people from poorer arab nations like sudan can be compared with a flourishing country like kuwait .Here kuwaitis have been spoilt bad coz of their wealth.The majority of indians over here work as drivers/maids for them.Thus ,they feel if you are indian you obviously are doing some menial job .Compare that with UAE where indians have nearly taken over the whole country :D.How is it possible to group a whole  HUGE bunch of ppl (ARAB,which includes sooo many countries)and call them rascists?That's not  being fair.
Re: are arabs racist?
UmmZaid
03/01/03 at 02:11:06
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??? :( >:( :'(

Why is this whole thread reading like an Arab-bashing thread?  I am so sick of hearing about how racist Arabs are, when other Muslims don't even want to confront their own anti-Arab racism or anti-African racism, or anti-Latino racism or anti-Whoever racism. And this is on top of the virulent anti-Arab racism that is propagated by the non Muslims in this society.  But it seems that over the last two or three years, it's become more "acceptable" among Muslims to spew out anti-Arab rhetoric or paint the Arabs in the same villain colors that the media has done.  

YES, there are RACIST ARABS.  And guess what? There are RACIST Desis. And RACIST Whites. And RACIST African Americans. And so on.  I lived and worked in a Desi community and myself and my boss had the most DISGUSTING anti-Arab racism thrown in our faces not just on a daily basis but even in the middle of the masjid inbetween rakat of the Tarawih prayer! Other people in the community were excluded or talked about b/c they weren't the "right shade" or they didn't come from Pakistan (they came from India instead) or they didn't come from the right city or whatever.  Does that make all Desis racist? Not by a long shot. Doesn't even mean that this community is a racist one.  Just means that there are some bad apples with no adab in this community.  

How is "you people-ing" the Arabs here *not* generalizing? How can any one Arab here be expected to answer for all 200 million Arabs? That's like when the non Muslims expect us to answer for all 1.5 billion of us, like you personally are Usama's keeper or something.  

And by the way, I'm not an Arab... but the Desis in my community assumed that any woman who would actually cover her neck and wear a jilbab *must* be an Arab, so I was included in the Arab bashing that went on here (btw, this anti-Arab hate included saying horrible things about the Arab children in this community...).  

I'm sorry, I know there are plenty of Arab people out there who think they are better than everyone else, but there are also plenty of Pakistanis who think that, Indians who think that, Iranians who think that, Blacks who think that, and so on.  If that's what you want to focus on, be my guest.  I personally  have very little time for people who think they are better than others b/c they are from a certain race or ethnic group, and it's my personal belief that spending time saying that the sickness of racism only affects one group of Muslims, and that the rest of us are so above it is exactly what the Shaytan wants us to be doing.
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03/02/03 at 08:38:45
[quote author=BrKhalid link=board=madrasa;num=1046191146;start=15#15 date=03/01/03 at 03:47:08]
Are all Californians surfer dudes?

Are all Albanyians cow lovers?

Are all Brits tea drinkers and scone eaters?

Are all Singaporeans neat beard lovers?

Are all Germans Pakistani cricket fans?

Are all Pakistanis PhD graduates?

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oh yes definitely - based on the random 500+ members we have here  ::)

Abt the germans ? Who knows? All the irish are definitely Pak-cricket fans though  ;D ;D ;D
Re: are arabs racist?
Dude
03/03/03 at 04:37:42
I personally tend to be racist towards all cricket fans, not just German cricket fans. Anyone who can sit through a cricket game and like it (much less understand it) has serious dependency issues. That would make me a non-discriminating cricket fan racist. I tend to show favoritism towards hockey fans (real hockey on ice, not that girl’s game played on grass), with the exception of NY Rangers fans. NY Rangers fans are all bent, without exception. I guess this would make me a discriminating hockey fan.

But I digress…

The problem is racism does exist everywhere, to a certain extent. My personal experience with Arab people is actually very good, but Arabs are in the minority in Vancouver. The Pakistani community here is huge, and I’ve always been irked by the “Apna” signs on windows. “Apna Autobody”, “Apna Sweets”, “Apna Video”, etc. My understanding is that “Apna” means, roughly translated, “our kind” in Hindi. Having said that, I can only think of a few times when I can honestly say I’ve been discriminated against in the Pakistani community, but then again, it has happened.

Suffice to say, being open minded and accepting of new ideas makes one far less likely to fall into the traps of discrimination, while staying uneducated and closed minded will help breed discrimination. Discrimination leads to blatant racism. You’ll find discrimination everywhere, but my own personal belief is to give others the benefit of the doubt first, and maybe you’ll learn something…and they about you.

That is, with the exception of NY Ranger and cricket fans. They’re all degenerates.
;)

Re: are arabs racist?
Ameeraana
03/03/03 at 19:07:17
Salaam Aleikum,

  Of course there are good Arabs who respect all people and then there are Arabs whom are racist.  I have had friends who are pretty much racist to their own Muslim brothers because they come from a more poor society then they.  I have heard my gulf Arab friends make fun of Indians and the poor Asian countries whom mostly go there to work in the lower-level jobs. But there are plenty of good people out there.  

Ameera
Re: are arabs racist?
Madinat
03/06/03 at 16:10:25
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i know i'm a little late getting into this discussion, but i just wanted to add one thing no one else mentioned.  for me arabs being condescending or elitist hurts more than any of the other group because they act as if they have some sort of religious superiortiy because "their" language is the language of the Qur'an.  yes, a lot of us can read the Qur'an, but many of my friends, like myself, do not know the meanings of only a handful of the words contained in it.  this, coupled with the "we were muslim first" hurts me more than any desi/white/non-black person discriminating against me would.
just my two cents........
[wlm] :-)
Re: are arabs racist?
zomorrud
03/06/03 at 17:54:22
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bismillah...
assalamu alaikum,

i think we should all look at madinat's "personal text" (maybe it should read [i]consent[/i]?) and learn something.

arab racism is nothing but an attitude of jahilliyyah.  next time you encounter it, show the person that you are better than them (hopefully by staying cool and composed) and remind him/her to fear Allah who created us in all shades.

wassalam
take care
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Re: are arabs racist?
Traveler
03/07/03 at 05:03:29


 Ah, but you don't have to feel inferior to be treated inferior. So whatever you might feel it won''t have an effect on somebody treating you inferior.
Re: are arabs racist?
paula
03/09/03 at 19:45:41
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[size=3][font=Book Antiqua][color=Navy]Bi'ithnillah........
Another addition here...... there are alot of good points in this thread
I agree with so much....  smile.... alot of cute ones too
Jazak Allahu Khairan..... everyone

Maybe when faced with this issue we can all reflect on some of the
final words from our beloved Prophet Muhammad (SAW).. in his final sermon:

[quote]Beware of Satan, for the safety of your religion. He has lost all hope that he will ever be able to lead you astray in big things, so beware of following him in small things.
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[quote]All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab, nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black, nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is the brother of another Muslim, and that Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to your selves.
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[quote]All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others, and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listen to me directly. Be my witness O Allah, that I have conveyed Your message to Your people."
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May Allah (SWT) have mercy upon us, forgive us of our sins, and grant us all strength to deal with hurt & cruelty from others....... Ameen  [/color][/font][/size]

[wlm]
03/09/03 at 19:55:33
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