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rajullunyas-aa
03/02/03 at 13:13:07
The human spirit,confined for any period of time,grows inward in strenght.like the river checked from it's natural course,it will overflow all boundaries.for he river's relentless,unyielding search for the sea is eternal.the things that are meant to be will be.......preface to the novel{ghost love} by dennis.m
no matter how the orientalist and materialist west try to stop the spread of islam and disturb it's success and destroy the muslim contries they will not be successful.they soon meet their waterloo...
what do you think?
Re: what will be will be
Kathy
03/02/03 at 17:56:51
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Masha Allah, today Mary and I were presenting Islam at a Methodist Church.

It amazes me every time, how quickly they embrace us. As you know, it is not us that they are embracing, but the message of Islam.
03/02/03 at 17:57:20
Kathy
Re: what will be will be
Halima
03/03/03 at 03:04:00
Very true!  Islam is unstoppable.  And it will be.  

Shukran.

Halima
Re: what will be will be
paula
03/10/03 at 02:20:52
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[size=3][font=Book Antiqua][color=Blue]Actually Brother.... your post here reminded me of a message a friend sent to me awhile ago, and thought to share.... actually you could say this woman is more of a mentor of mine especially in a business aspect but it cannot help but be in a personal sense too...... she is several years older than I am and just has really been supportive to me in several ways, althought she is not professed Muslim, she is a very caring and peaceful woman:[/font] [/color]     [font=Lucida Handwriting][center]   [color=Navy]
May today there be peace within.

May you trust your highest power that you are exactly where you are ment to be...

May you not forget the infinite possibilities that are born of faith.

May you use those gifts that you have received, and pass on the love that has been given to you...

May you be content knowing you are a child of God...

Let this presence settle into our bones, and allow your soul the freedom to sing, dance, praise and love.  It is there for each and every one of you...[/font][/center][/color][color=Blue]    
[font=Book Antiqua]You are so right...... what is ment to be will be.... Allahu Akbar
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03/10/03 at 02:24:23
paula
Re: what will be will be
jaihoon
03/11/03 at 06:00:20
[quote author=Kathy link=board=bookstore;num=1046628787;start=0#1 date=03/02/03 at 17:56:51] [slm]

Masha Allah, today Mary and I were presenting Islam at a Methodist Church.

It amazes me every time, how quickly they embrace us. As you know, it is not us that they are embracing, but the message of Islam.[/quote]

May Allah reward your efforts. It is indeed an inspiration and persuasion for those like me who are far from such activities.

jazak Allah khair
Re: what will be will be
Kathy
03/11/03 at 09:27:58
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You know... it is scary to do dawah. Often I feel like I should stop. I have so many sleepless nights reviewing my words and actions. I worry about mistakes I may make, the wrong impressions I may give. I think about the people who have serious questions and my answers, which are constrained by time or knowledge.

I worry about being held accountable for not giving enough time to a person's question. I worry about my body language when someone asks an arguementive question.

When I read stuff on this board and comments like "You are not doing dawah right if they are asking these kind of questions..." and I wonder how do you get them not to ask those questions?

I think perhaps it would be better to stay at home and educate my son more, instead of preparing and going out "on the circuit." I worry about my kinship with fellow Muslims and the inevitable disagreements we get into when even we don't agree with each other on a subject question.

Then my mind goes to the Muslims and my cowerdice to correct them when I think they are doing dawah wrong. Then I look with in myself and wonder what I can do better.

I was on a radio show that was supposed to speak of my reversion. The interviewer and I were on such different planes of thought, I could not even comprehend what the audience was thinking... muchless it took me back by the questions I was asked.

I worry about my deen and prayers especially when the lecture is right in the middle of one. I worry about being hypocritical. Especially when I speak of certain aspects of Islam that I have not perfected. I worry about making the audience comfortable by leaving out certain points.

May Allah swt help me and others doing dawah. May He forgive me and have mercy on me.
Re: what will be will be
paula
03/11/03 at 20:21:38
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Bi'ithnillah
.......((forgive the length)).........

Ya Allah.... Please hear Sister Kathy's heart and answer here prayers.... support her in her mission for your sake..... For all the unselfishness she has in her efforts to lend a hand to your beautiful community.... Ameen

You know what Sister Kathy...... I went to sleep thinking about this issue..... woke up thinking about this issue..... praying to Allah(SWT) about it..... Allah has a law we cannot dispute...... I will read the Qur'an and I will hear what I need from it...... You will pick it up ... read the same words and get from it what you need..... another sister(Allah have Mercy)will read the words and say what a load of crap(excuse the expression). This is the beauty of Allah's law..... this is the beauty of Islam and All Allah's creation...... the closer we get to the the Beneficent the more silent we will become...... The more good we will do..... the more we must beg in submission for Allah's Mercy...... the more knowledgabe we become.... the more accountable we will have to be. The more questions we answer, the more we long to have answered.

I thought about the aggression that starts to show..... even on such a board as this....... the diversity.... the agrumentativeness...... the many viewpoints...... the offese.... the defense.... the right, the wrong, the black, the white.  It becomes soooo silly.  It becomes so so sad ..... good intentions of the heart turn into misconceptions and judgements.

I asked myself the same thing as you did..... okay so what does that mean..... do we live in silence..... do we retreat and protect ourselves from this world and the diversity that resides ?? Surely when we only have good intentions.... we do not wish to see it have ill effects.

My viewpoint...... hey, it may change tomorrow (smile)..... and it is just opinion.... Allah please forgive me for my humanistic behaviors.... please perfect them and make them right........ I said wait a minute..... Allah created our Diversity.... Allah created the levels....... each and every thing that is done..... by you or I.... our fellow brothers and sisters.... can only be interpreted in good and bad effects by Allah's will.... every time you speak you are accountable.... and Allahu Alam..... only Allah knows where your heart resides and your intensions behind your behavior and words....... only judgement for your actions can be by Allah...... "All knower/All wise"............

........ can we loop around....  and say look how that word/ that action.... lead that other person to a misconception that lead them down the wrong path ""shame on you""!!...... NO, NOT AT  ALL..... you do not have that kind of Power...... Allah(SWT) has that Power....What happens on the other end resides in Allah. The judgement for your intension, and actions, only resides in Allah(SWT) ... the effects it has on another is in Allah's hands.

Allah has stated to us well..... he has sealed ears.... there will be some to never hear........ He has stated to us well..... there will be some who think they know...... when indeed they know not. etc, etc, etc.

........ (opinion/thought)...... wouldn't it then be accountable on the recievers as well, that with every thing read & heard, that prayer and submission to Allah is given from them to get what is needed from it, protection from the misinterpretation and wrongness.  Our fellow brothers and sisters and all those that even have not come to the folds of Islam have a responsibility to Allah directly(weither they accept it, believe it, understand it, or not).  Allah's law is always consistant.

......... so does that mean too.... to protect ourselves we retreat to silence.... Did Allah create us not to interact with one another to protect ourselves? Has he requested this from us to protect others? or contrary has he requested that we support one another and encourage them through the best of our behaviors.  Just as when someone does evil (we all see and come in contact with that daily..... we are accountable to how we take that..... how we interpret it..... what we do with it... weither we seek Allah's protection and Mercy).... isn't it just as applicable to the good.

As Muslims, Allah (SWT) has given us his law.....we are accoutable to ourseleves and to Allah what we do with it. Allah has told us clearly that we will not bear the load of another upon the day of judgement.

I think it's simple (Allah has made it easy on us)...Alhamdu lillah..... and we, with our humanistic behaviors, always try to make it harder.

Diversity.......Allah created it
What I might find bad, wrong, offensive, incomplete, from the outer limits, Allah please have Mercy upon ME for my judgement.  Only you Allah have such a right to judge.  Please Allah(SWT) protect me from Myself.

Protect me from the wrong path Allah... when I am in society and among all your beautiful creation, let me see, understand, feel, & enjoy all the good and truth in this world, please have mercy on me and protect me from the wrong way.

How much faith do we have in Allah(SWT)..... how much do we fall in true submission to him for his control in EVERYTHING...... not a thing can take place without Allah's will. (good, bad, black, white, offense, defensive, beautiful, ugly, true or false).

Hmm.... one of the very first lessons in Adulthood I remember.... is the appreciation for Diversity.  You see I was raised with a very limited view... thought the home I lived in..... was what All the World was.  I thank Allah daily for his blessing to place me in situations to truly see and feel Diversity..... Allah is Wonderful .... Allahu Akbar..... You know.... even a good home (it wasn't bad)..... didn't mean the only home... or the only way to live. (and also, "Good" I found, does not always mean "Right"/or "Perfect") It also let me understand, that our perceptions of right and wrong, are just that, "perceptions"......... only Allah(SWT) is All See'er, All Knower, All Wise.  Trust Him...... I pray each and every one of us..... may truly trust ALLAH, he's the only one that has the complete view. He's the only one to protect us, he's the only one to have Mercy on us, he's the only one to provide for us.

Sister Kathy, only you know what is wrong or right or what Allah leads you to do........I know you don't want to hurt anyone, and Allah knows that better than I...... and can you really hurt them, without his will ?? (smile)....I want to know how powerful you truly are....... but by his Grace and Mercy.... I'm sure..... through his Will...... you can and have helped many....... Your rewards only Allah knows..... but I do believe Islam is already complete Kathy....... Personally, I believe you don't have to worry to much on that one..... what you may not have perfected yourself.... those beyond..... know they have the understanding and if truly Muslim at heart... are giving prayers for your continued understanding..... and those not to that point.... will be drawn to your level of understanding by your encouragement and prayer under Allah's Grace, and Will.  It's a law..... a beautiful beautiful law written by Allah, we should trust him to litigate it.

I thank you too once Again Jannah......... Jazak Allahu Khairan, for creating such a site here for all of us to share........ I pray daily that it will only be supported by Allah's will, grace and mercy, because Allah(SWT) knows how much we need one another....... Diversity included.

((what offers offense to one...... may be a blessing to another......... Allahu Alam))
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03/11/03 at 20:26:48
paula


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