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| Has anyone experienced seeing a Jinn?? |
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| Zameer |
| 03/07/03 at 07:31:45 |
| Can anyone tell the life style of Jinns and are they interfereing with the human life?? What is the part with humans?? Do they have life similar to humans? |
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| Danyala |
| 03/07/03 at 08:30:15 |
| [slm] If I remember right, no human can actually 'see' a jinn in its true form, but we are able to see them in other forms they may assume. [wlm] :-* |
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| imasoa |
| 03/07/03 at 18:10:24 |
| Jinn are one of my most frequently read topics in Islam, especially since I usually feel that Shaytan has a personnal interest in me alone! >:( I'd like to post this, fyi: Based on "Eedah ad-Dalaalah fee 'Umoom ar-Risaalah", from volume 19 of "Majmoo' Al-Fataawaa" (A Collection of Religious Rulings); volume 35 of "Majmoo' Al-Fataawaa" and Ibn Taymeeyah's classic, " Al-Furqaan Bayna Awliyaa ar-Rahmaan wa Awliyaa ash-Shaytaan." Note: All remarks that are bracketed in the text are made by Bilal Phillips The point is that though the oaths and incantations of devil-worshippers may contain statements of idolatry and disbelief, they are frequently ineffective against the JINN. When requested to kill or apprehend another JINN who has possessed a human, the JINN will often mock those who make the request by falsely giving them the impression that they killed or detained the offending JINN. This is especially so in cases where humans believe in the illusions created by the JINN. The JINN usually communicate by either visions or voices ["The gleaning of hidden information by way of visions and voices has been well documented among clairvoyants and mediums. 'A medium' may be defined as a person through whose agency or through whose organism there are received communications ostensibly from deceased human beings or other discarnate or remote entities. In what is called 'clairvoyant mediumship' -now popularly known as channeling- the medium 'sees' or 'hears' the deceased friends and relatives of persons present and relays messages from them. Generally speaking, the experiences concerned seem not to have the distinctness of ordinary perception but are rather a seeing or hearing 'in the mind's eye' or ear. Sometimes, however, the figures seen or voices heard may attain as hallucinatory vividness; the medium's experience then resembles that of one who witnesses an apparition." (Benjamin B. Wolman. ed., Handbook of Parapsychology, New York, Van Nostrand Reinhold Company, 1977, pp, 579-580)] with those seeking information among the idol-worshippers, Christians, Jews, and heretical Muslims driven astray by the devils. JINNS may take the form of a live picture portraying whatever the sorcerers and fortunetellers wish to know about. When these deviants see the image of what they sought, they then inform other humans about it. Some of them may know that the image is actually an illusion, while others may be deluded into believing that they are actually witnessing the real scene. JINNS may also make humans hear the voice of those whom they call upon who are far away. Such cases are frequent among idolaters, Christians, Jews and ignorant Muslims who seek refuge in those whom they consider holy. When some devotees call on their spiritual masters for help saying, "Oh my Lord so and so!" the JINN will address them in the voice of their masters. When the masters answer their request, the JINN, in turn, answer the devotees in the masters' voice. This has happened to many people some of whom are known to me. The devils will often respond while talking the form of the one besought, whether dead or alive, even if he is unaware of those who call on him. Those committing Shirk in this fashion believe that the person beseeched has actually replied when in fact it is the JINN replying. This frequently happens to Christians who call on those whom they edify, whether dead or alive, like George or other holy figures [ROME, Feb 24 1989 (AFP) - A retired Italian roadman Renato Baron claims that he has been seeing and talking to the Virgin Mary for nearly three years now. Visions by Baron and about THIRTY others have attracted tens of thousands of people from Italy, France, Belgium, and West Germany to a hill near Venice, causing huge traffic jams. For entire text see: http:// www.islaam.com/Article.aspx?id=75 |
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| Ameeraana |
| 03/07/03 at 20:44:57 |
| Salaam Aleikum Wa Rahmattu Allah, I am still not exactly sure what a Jinn is--the same as ghosts? or completely different? Well, if ghosts/jinns are the same then I have had many experiences... never visual though. [color=Red]When my parents moved us to a new home when I was a teen-ager one night in my basement bedroom I heard someone breathing as if they were struggling for breath. It was right behind me and I froze for a second, pulled the covers over my head and started to pray and it went away. So I convinced myself it was just nothing and just as I was about to fall asleep I heard it right behind me again!!! I froze and could not move until finally I used all my strength, got up, and ran out of my bed!! My sister heard it when she slept in the family room in the basement and one night my cousin awoke me while sleeping next to me because she was hearing the breathing. I heard many other noises in my room but I started sleeping with the TV on so I wouldn't hear anything. That lasted probable 10yrs and when I moved away for about a year and had to stay with my parents again for a while, the noises were gone.[/color] [color=Blue]I was also a nanny for 3 yrs and there were noises in the family's house. The parents even acknowledged strange things happening like footsteps heard upstairs and pictures falling off the walls. One night in the baby's room on the intercom to hear if she awakes the mother heard a voice say "hi"--well the baby was only about 4 months old so it wasn't her!! I was in the baby's room one day when she was about 1 and a half and I told her "lets go downstairs" and just as we got up a doll in her room started crying--now, this doll needs to be squeezed to make laughing or crying noises and we were not near it!! I could only guess the jinn/ghost did not want us to leave so we stayed for about 10 minutes longer. There were many others but here is one of the scariest--we were watching "The Exorcist" because the parents told me it was soooo scary and they could not believe I had never seen it. I laughed through most of the movie -- I had never really believed in the devil possessing people so it was a hilarious idea for me. Well, just before going to bed, the father said "Don't let anything possess you" Well, a few hours later the baby upstairs started crying so I had to make her a warm bottle of milk. I went back to the kitchen to get a quick drink and as I walked out of the kitchen and started down the stairs all of a sudden you could hear all of the kitchen cabinets and the refrigerator opening and slamming shut!! I stood there not knowing what to do and a few seconds later it all just stopped completely. I was so scared I ran downstairs and cuddled in the blankets!! The next morning I asked the mother if she heard anything and she said " yes, was that you? " I explained to her what happened and she said she heard some loud noises but after they stopped she heard the motor of the fan going on right below her in the room next to the kitchen. That noise always annoyed her and we always turn that off before going to bed!! [/color] I have many more stories but I just don't know if these are the doings of Jinns or if it something entirely different?? Ameera |
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| Chris |
| 04/11/03 at 13:10:38 |
| Hi, just one simlier experiance. I was at a talk in manchester recently on 'islamophobia' and I waited outside while the muslims did their prayers. (anyone else there by the way?) and while I was outside two people passed by. My friend Sarfraz joked later if they had had beards. They had not, they were normal english people. They never did anything threatening, but I've never felf so physically threatened in my life. They looked normal, but there was this sense of danger and 'wrongness' around them that freaked me out. On a different note, if you ever go to Mary King's Close in edinburgh, I advise you to go in a group. There are a lot of unquiet spirts there. Chris |
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| Dude |
| 04/11/03 at 13:45:04 |
| Ameera, Those stories absolutely freak me out! :o Seriously...I'm getting chills. I've always beleived in ghosts / jins, but have never seen or heard any evidence. Maybe you're like the kid in Sixth Sense, and ghosts communicate with you. [i]"I see dead people..."[/i] :o |
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| panjul |
| 04/12/03 at 00:05:47 |
| [slm] Go Canuks go!? Is that what Canadians like to call themselves? I thought that was what we (Americans) liked to call them. ;) I posted about my jinn experiences (or rather my dad's) on the old board. If only se7en, or bhalloo would be kind enough to pull it up. I still can't figure that search thing out. i liked the old one so much better. so guys, please? p.s. Not the onion/alien story.....people are going to think i have strange family. ;) |
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| Emerald |
| 04/12/03 at 23:36:00 |
| These kind of topics ALWAYS lure me in! :o Anyway, I've heard stories by my father about my grandmother who had an encounter with a jinn. In fact she used to see her (female jinn) all the time - and no, my grandmother wasn't crazy......which by the way leads me to say that I whole-heartedly believe that many people who are considered psychotic by psychiatrists are really in contact with a jinn......Now back to the stories. My mother has also told me that when she was a teenager she had a cousin who was thought to be crazy/ possessed. She said that one day she was on the balcony and she heard alot of voices. She looked down to the lower level and she saw her cousin opening the door and saying "waleikumus salam" and then she heard water running and all the voices of the jinn making wudoo. These creatures are a reality because Allah (swt) said they were and I believe that when we feel a presence in the room or think someone is behind us or whatever, that it might actually be a jinn....wa Allahu A3lam. I also think it's no reason to be freaked out because they go away with the remembrance of Allah (swt). About the ghost comment- Aren't they defined as being the souls of dead people? ***Just a thought. :-[ Maybe Roswell is a haven for the jinn! ;)Hmm :D*** |
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| bhaloo |
| 04/12/03 at 23:41:49 |
| [slm] [quote author=panjul link=board=madrasa;num=1047040305;start=0#6 date=04/12/03 at 00:05:47]]I posted about my jinn experiences (or rather my dad's) on the old board. If only se7en, or bhalloo would be kind enough to pull it up. I still can't figure that search thing out. i liked the old one so much better. so guys, please? p.s. Not the onion/alien story.....people are going to think i have strange family. ;) [/quote] Your onion/alien story has got to be one of the funniest stories ever on this board. :D Its definitely a classic. |
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| sister2sister |
| 04/13/03 at 04:09:45 |
| [slm] Jinns are not ghost. They are real living being created by Allah (SWT) that do just about everything we do in terms of living. They are just unseen to us. They eat, drink, have children, some are good, some are just plain evil. They don't have control over true believers, what lilltle influence they do manage to have over us is do to our own lack of closeness to Allah (SWT). May Allah (SWT) protect us all from the evils of the seen and unseen evil ones. |
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| Ameeraana |
| 04/14/03 at 20:07:58 |
| salaam aleikum, So, are ghosts mentioned in the Quran at all besides Jinn? and, why do I always hear ghosts!! I hate it sometimes but then again I guess its cool -- so long as I never hear an evil ghost I will be alright I guess.... my biggest fear is washing my face and getting up and looking in the mirror.... I am always scared that I'm gonna see someone standing behind me or something!!! Ameera |
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| Mulla |
| 04/15/03 at 00:35:49 |
| B.Rahaman Raheem! Ask me about jins... inshallah I will answer with first hand knowledge! Mulla! |
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| salaampeaceshalom |
| 04/15/03 at 04:04:17 |
Ask me about jins... inshallah I will answer with first hand knowledge! [slm], wow, Mulla, meaning....? My mind is racing. This topic is so scary but so cool at the same time. I've had some experiences but I don't know if they were jinn related or not. My Mum's had a few. Ameera, my gosh, I'm so glad I've never had anything like that. Mash'Allaah I think ur very brave, despite whatever may be the cause for the stuff that happens around u. If that was me, I think I may have had a breakdown by now! The mirror fear u described is a fear that I share, and I also have this fear that one day I'll be all alone in a building and I walk into a room, and I see someone sitting down and I know that they're not human. I always wonder how will I react. Will I freeze? Try talking to 'it'? Or turn around and run? :P |
| 04/15/03 at 04:06:01 |
| salaampeaceshalom |
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| Barr |
| 04/15/03 at 07:06:08 |
| Wa'alaikumussalam :) Ameera.. that is soooo creepy! But not as creepy as that onion story ;) Anywho... the mystery between ghosts and jins.. is that... Ghosts are not jins. Ghosts are usually defined as the spirit of a dead person. However, in Islam, once a person is dead, his spirit can never enter this world again. His spirit would be at another place/dimension... which is alam barzakh (the grave). Its like an interval universe, before the eternal hereafter. Hence.. there's really.. no such thing as ghosts. Wot is out there.. that makes us think are ghosts are actually jins. And sometimes, they can make themselves look like the dead person. For every person that is is born, there would be a jin who would come with him. These jins are called Qarin. Qarin means a friend... but in this case, the conotation of Qarin, refers to the jins that are evil that come with each person. These jins would try and seduce, instigate and put evil thoughts in our minds to do evil deeds. Sometimes, when a person dies, his Qarin would make himself visible and appear as the dead person. That is why, some people may see "dead people".. but its not them.. and its not ghosts... it's Qarin... the jin. Jins do occupy empty houses, that is why some people do experience the "haunted houses" phenomena. But alhamdulilalh, Allah has given us protection and taught us how to protect ourselves. For example, we are encouraged to read du'a and seek protection with Allah before we go to the toilet.. for the jins do reside in toilets. And if we move to a new home, we are encouraged to read Surah Al Baqarah. And before we sleep, we are encouraged to take wudu, recite the 3 Quls (last 3 surah of the Qur'an) then blow into our hands, then pass our hands over our body and also, to read Ayatul Kursi. And there are many du'as that the prophet has taught us, alhamdulillah. But wot is most important of all, is that we build our iman. For shaitan would find it difficult to tempt those whose heart is with Allah. Allahua'lam :-) |
| 04/15/03 at 07:14:09 |
| Barr |
| Ask those who know...(quran) |
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| Mulla |
| 04/15/03 at 08:09:55 |
| [quote author=salaampeaceshalom link=board=madrasa;num=1047040305;start=0#12 date=04/15/03 at 04:04:17] Ask me about jins... inshallah I will answer with first hand knowledge! [slm], wow, Mulla, meaning....? My mind is racing. This topic is so scary but so cool at the same time. I've had some experiences but I don't know if they were jinn related or not. My Mum's had a few. Ameera, my gosh, I'm so glad I've never had anything like that. Mash'Allaah I think ur very brave, despite whatever may be the cause for the stuff that happens around u. If that was me, I think I may have had a breakdown by now! The mirror fear u described is a fear that I share, and I also have this fear that one day I'll be all alone in a building and I walk into a room, and I see someone sitting down and I know that they're not human. I always wonder how will I react. Will I freeze? Try talking to 'it'? Or turn around and run? :P[/quote] [slm], wow, Mulla, meaning....? meaning , plz ask! what do u need to know about Jinnat, pari, moakill, and afreet......put ur questions in a logical manner and dont worry or fear anything......fear is just a hijab and excited state of neural transmissions in the mind, with effort one can control this just like one can control the heart beat with a little effort. Hence let not the mystrey of this subject keep u from learning "Asrar ullah" on the dimensions of "reality" which science has seen with its own eyes and public has known about such dimensions since the time of Adam our grandfather! So ask objectively......... Mulla! |
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| Tesseract |
| 04/15/03 at 12:01:48 |
| Assalamu 'alaikum, [quote] plz ask! what do u need to know about Jinnat, pari, moakill, and afreet[/quote] So I have heard the stories of "paris" (plural of pari, not capital of France :)) since my childhood, but what in the world are these moakill and afreet? Actually, I had like to hear from u about pari also since u claim to have first hand knowledge :o. Wassalam. p.s: Ur name reminds me of Mulla Halwai from Pakistan :). |
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| Dude |
| 04/15/03 at 12:51:55 |
| You had me up until: [quote]jins do reside in toilets[/quote] They may exist, but they make bad decisions, re: living quarters. Mrs. Dude has knives under all our mattresses...something about warding off Jins. Apparently a superstitious belief. She also has beaded bracelets on the Mini Dudes wrists. Again, to ward off Jins. Dude thinks Mrs. Dude is a bit quirky. ::) But, I don#t say anything. Who knows...maybe she's right. I've always been freaked of ghosts...so the Jin thing makes sense. Now that I know they're both good and evil, I fell much safer. :o Note the :o I feel much better now, Dude. |
| 04/15/03 at 12:52:50 |
| Dude |
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| Mulla |
| 04/15/03 at 12:53:07 |
| I am not amused at your making fun of my nick! Please abstain from childish stupid humor, thanks. lol, hehehe, its ok yaar, no problem u can make fun of me, but not the name Mulla, cause it used to be a great title but with everthing islamic, it lost its value due to modern education which makes us belive that "new" is good and "old" is bad! so no problem , u are my brother! Anyways.. Pari is a light form of "photonic nature". They are visible as glowing silver shining elongeted balls of different sizes usually 10 to fifteen feet above our heads, in places where they feel like apearing. They do make "contact" as well and sometimes communicate as well. In kashmir pakistan I had dealt with such an instance and even in usa in DR.Rodney's patients we had one female who was in contact with a pari who reported to us the conditions of some south african political prisoners, this is laughable cause what is to them , our problems, but to test that who is in "contact" we have documented evidence... Moakeel is also a cast of jinn who serve people who can control them. This is really not a good type of jinn, usually people in hindus and some muslims do have contact but I would suggest that this is the worse kind of thing to do, people control them thru various ways which eventually is negative on the person who does this "ammal"! Afreet is the word used by arabs for some entities who surround the graves of prophets and are there as gaurdians! One of them Abdu Zubaida is present on the grave of Muhammad! fyi! I cant detail every thing about these but for the sake of knowledge i will. Mulla! |
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| Red |
| 04/15/03 at 14:04:08 |
| [quote author=panjul link=board=madrasa;num=1047040305;start=0#6 date=04/12/03 at 00:05:47] [slm] I posted about my jinn experiences (or rather my dad's) on the old board. If only se7en, or bhalloo would be kind enough to pull it up. [/quote] ahhhhh now your going to have to tell this story because you have told us newbies about this really great story ... ... and i can't find it! I have friend who really loves to read about jinns, personally it usually does a good job of freaking me out for a day or two, so i end up sleeping with one of my sis :P, i know it iam pretty scared person when it comes to these sort of things ;) |
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| panjul |
| 04/15/03 at 20:02:20 |
| Ameera.. that is soooo creepy! But not as creepy as that onion story :P :P :P :P :P :P |
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| Ameeraana |
| 04/15/03 at 20:17:19 |
| Ameera <----------- wants to read the onion/alien story... where is it?? |
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| panjul |
| 04/15/03 at 20:19:11 |
| [slm] Ameera...... too bad. hahaha! you won't find it, cuz its buried somwhere on the internet. maybe its lost. [] |
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| Tesseract |
| 04/18/03 at 00:26:28 |
| Assalamu 'alaikum, [quote]Moakeel is also a cast of jinn who serve people who can control them. This is really not a good type of jinn, usually people in hindus and some muslims do have contact but I would suggest that this is the worse kind of thing to do, people control them thru various ways which eventually is negative on the person who does this "ammal"! Afreet is the word used by arabs for some entities who surround the graves of prophets and are there as gaurdians! One of them Abdu Zubaida is present on the grave of Muhammad! fyi! [/quote] Jazaak Allahu khairan bro. Mulla for the info. A humble request: Please, do provide the source of ur knowledge whenever u write something, like mention the name of scholar or book (and its author) or website, whatever it is where u get ur knowledge from. It becomes easier for me to accept things if they come from authentic sources, and if they aren't that authentic, then I do my own research to find out how acceptable the unauthentic things are. Wassalam. |
| 04/18/03 at 00:27:32 |
| Tesseract |
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| Mulla |
| 04/18/03 at 01:53:03 |
| I think I am not obligated to give you any reference, if you cant take it then you simply stay away from this topic. It is the "disease" of the ummah that we start asking for "reference" books, and other "proof" for things which can be scientifically established. What proof do u need to know that there are dimensions of reality which exist in linear existance to our physical being. What proof do u need to know that there is a reality of existance which can be seen and felt without the need of "books" I think you are getting my point... Please refrain from "attacking" back on me , cause this is a thread where some questions will be answered and I dont think even if I provide books so called books, you will be satisfied, cause the "disease" seems to be very very objective these days......... Plus u ask for books, only to satisfy your "un intellectual" question, please refer to Muqadamatul Jinn by one of the great (in the eyes of some) ibn taymiya in arabic, make sure you read the original multi volume and not in any other language, nor any sharah of it by any other alim, only the original and also look at some starting chapters of ibn jawzia's talbees as well to curb ur "disease"... so what I will say will be my own responsibility and you stand no authority to question my daleel, if you cannot accept you are not obligated to..hold ur opinon and I am not responsible to satisfy your "disease"! I am a serious person and am not into childish stupid debates.....I have some uloom and some things which I do not control, a great friend of mine asked me to visit this place and I saw some questions, hence I am here....so please if anyone wants to learn, then and only then engage in this work otherwise you guys will be more then welcome to let me know if I am not needed, cause "discourgement" is the best what the "diseased" minds these days do......... Mulla! |
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| bhaloo |
| 04/18/03 at 02:13:03 |
| [slm] [quote] I think I am not obligated to give you any reference, if you cant take it then you simply stay away from this topic. [/quote] Why not? He wants to know if what you say is authentic or not, and wants to verify the information and perhaps research it more. Alhumdullilah that he asked for proof, and he should be commended for asking for the evidence. I appreciate that he asked the question, because I too have the same question. How else are people to learn? Just to accept things blindly without asking for proof? I hope you can see what sort of problems this could lead to. His questions were sincere and they should be addressed. There is no reason to get upset. I think you should be happy that he asked the question and has taken interest in what you are presenting. It will give you an opportunity to refresh your memory as to where you heard this information so you can relate it to us. |
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| Mulla |
| 04/18/03 at 02:21:26 |
| Thats right , and I did give him two references to ponder upon, first let him finish them and then come and question me.... You too, need to look into that if you are "sincere" in your quest, dont open ur mouth as well unless you finish "muqadama tul jinn" by our sheikh Ibn Taymiya r.a and make sure u get his original work from syria in i belive 5 volumes and no shara of it, just the original work ok! Plus when u are done with that still keep ur mouth shut and then read Talbeese Iblees by ibn jawzia in its original form from syria again , sheikh dagastanis library has some original work in there...... Now dont get upset you too and try to baan me cause I am kinda rough in handling "diseased" minds..... After all we are all brothers and a few arguments in the matter of uloom is normal and we shall settle soon.......... Inshallah I have no ill wills and actually I would be realy greatfull if you guys could help me in understanding some issues, cause in quran there is a note saying that there is a knower over every knower! So dont take my words as angry words, but this is a technique used by some to detrack a subject and I have already used my limited energies in replying to you and ur buddy..... So chill now and lets wait for some important question to come from our dear readers....... other wise there is really no use in arguing... Plus can you explain to me one thing, that I replied to some posts which no one had ever wanted to reply to, even after in one case there were close to a hundred "reads" on one question, and when I did , all of a sudden everyone is an "alim" on that subject, I mean why didnt your buddies and you guys answer ur good answers before I had to open my stupid mouth?! Why? Mulla! |
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| jannah |
| 04/18/03 at 03:23:03 |
| [color=red] Salam Bro Mulla, There is no insulting of others allowed on this board. As far as I can tell your two previous posts are exactly that. This is your first warning. Please refrain and re-read the constitution to see the purpose and rules of this message board. Jazakallah khair [/color] |
| 04/18/03 at 03:23:57 |
| jannah |
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| sofia |
| 04/18/03 at 13:29:18 |
| As-salaamu 'alaykum wa rahmatullah, bro Mulla - You're right, even with the daleel of a lay-person, we can take it or leave it. Allahu A'lim. For any fiqh questions, we should try to ask some who knows and is qualified just to be sure, since daleel can be misinterpreted and/or inadequately given (and this is not even a fiqh site). I'm not sure which country you're from, but in the US, we have a lot of wanna-be scholars and just plain, lack of 'ulema. Hence, we have to question where our information comes from. Asking for daleel does not necessarily mean we are "diseased." You have to understand our unfortunate circumstances. We'll give the benefit of the doubt, tho, and interpret that to mean that we are all "diseased," and Islaam is our shifaa'. JazaakAllahu khair. Just for the topic's sake -- I can't recall ever thinking I saw a jinn. You guys are all weird. [kidding, jinns of course exist, may Allah save us from any evil/harm they may come with, aameen] |
| 04/18/03 at 13:34:33 |
| sofia |
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| a_Silver_Rose |
| 04/19/03 at 01:13:36 |
| [slm] [color=Green]OK this happened to me a about 6 yrs ago when I was visiting Pakistan. I was staying at my Grandmothers house but eventually went to go visit my mom's sister. Well my moms sister told my mom that I called her from my grandmothers house and was saying weird things like 'dont tell anyone I called' I told her I never said that, because I never even called and first of all I dont even know her number! Well she was like you called, it was your voice. So from then on Im thinking it was a jinn? :o Since Jinn's can change into the same form as you and same voice right?[/color] [color=Orange]OK this is a true story that happend to a friend of mine when she was a little girl and living in India. Her sister and mom had gone out shopping , she stayed home in bed because she was very sick. Well her dad stayed with her because of that. There was a knock on the door and...another knock...and BOOM! This lady that flys came in the house and straight into my friends bedroom. phew well my friends dad took a stick and got her out of their finally. She was telling me its so those ladies that kidnapps children :o(4got what u call them?)[/color] my cousin was telling me that to control a jin you have to be completely alone. You have to keep calling it a couple timz and not be scared. I think if you are scared than the jinn can control you? I guess im gonna have to ask him again. He said it was true... [color=Maroon]Ok when I was in Pakistan (two-four) years ago what happened was, in the neighboorhood of where my grandma lived there was a man who kept yelling very wildly. It was very different and somthing that I havent heard before. Its like something you hear in those indian movies when there is a bhooth! He did that for days and my relatives said 'usko jinn chara hai' I dont know if that meant hes crazy or a jinn took control of him :o [/color] well sweet dreamz your sis |
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| Mulla |
| 04/22/03 at 15:25:26 |
| a lot of "Activty" which we think about Jinns and their "izhaar" is actually paranoia and anxiety of different levels. There are very solid medical and neuropathological disorders which are easily termed by people as "jinn" influence. There is a very detailed and very authentic process for analysis, and given the "business" oppurtunity these days some folks have formed a business in dealing with these things and they charge a lot of money to "exorcise" this entity. while the patient is actually suffering from plain mental disorder and anxiety..... In arabia this is common as well as in pakistan and indian and usa as well...there are very very few real jin issues, cause jinn doesnot contact unless warranted and even if they do they do not harm! The fear which is in our minds is due to the "unkown" , and not because of jinnat or their influence... for example , there is a cave in a native american reservation near buffalo, where we have recorded evidence of "quran" recitation , loud in the middle of the night, to be able to enter into these places we need permits and proper protection, but when the hunting season starts the permits are easier to get, so we decided to find out this issue and lo and behold we had a very very clear indication that this is a jin who is reading surah bakara! upon further contact we also were able to get a complete detail of what is going on.......... But in general people who have jin in them are 98 percent sick of some other problem, cause whence the jin settles in a person the first thing as an indicator is that the person stops going to the bathroom! Mulla! |
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| mr-bean |
| 04/22/03 at 15:54:04 |
| [slm] you guys might want to stop asking about jinn and stuff...once you do, i have heard that you provoke them... and don't ever try messing with a jinn....they are part of the unseen and you definately don't want to mess with the unseen.... why does brother mulla have to be so dismissive of others....? |
| 04/22/03 at 15:56:57 |
| mr-bean |
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| Dude |
| 04/22/03 at 17:59:41 |
| Maybe he sees dead people? :o (Sorry mods...couldn't resist.) ;D Seriously...does the knife under the mattress thing work? Mini Dude has been having trouble falling assleep lately...says he's afraid of Ghosts. I tell him Ghosts don't exist, and at this point I'm not going to tell him about Jins. Sincerely, Bruce Willis. |
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| a_Silver_Rose |
| 04/22/03 at 18:25:22 |
| [slm] [quote]Seriously...does the knife under the mattress thing work? Mini Dude has been having trouble falling assleep lately...says he's afraid of Ghosts. I tell him Ghosts don't exist, and at this point I'm not going to tell him about Jins. [/quote] hmm I think thats just a superstitous belief but your wife gave me a really good idea. I used to keep knives in my treasure box then went to my drawer (but i decided that doesnt work 4 me) so now Im gonna keep em under the mattress. Its not that Im scared but just incase someone decides to break into my house I will be prepared.(just 4 self-defense) |
| 04/22/03 at 21:14:33 |
| a_Silver_Rose |
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| Dude |
| 04/22/03 at 18:32:41 |
| Just so people know (it was pointed out to me that Mulla might think I was being disrespectful), I was kidding around with the last post. A little banter. You know, "Sixth Sense"? ::) I'm sure Mulla will get it. Kindest regards, Halley Joel Osmond. |
| 04/22/03 at 18:59:47 |
| Dude |
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| Barr |
| 04/22/03 at 20:32:11 |
| [slm] Br Dude, Abt the knife thing, I feel its more of a cultural superstition thing, rather than what the Prophet recommends. I think its best that we practice wot is recommended by the Prophet saw, instead. For example, seeking protection from Allah though du'as and ibadah (worship). Maybe, someone in this board can help us exaplain abt the knife thing, though. coz, this is the first time I'm hearing abt it, and maybe, its becoz, I'm from a different culture. I'll try and post some du'as and practices from the Prophet, inshaAllah. Or it'll be brilliant if someone can beat me to it ;) Allahua'lam :-) |
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| Mulla |
| 04/22/03 at 21:12:44 |
| hehehe! Dude you made me laugh... nope i dont see dead people, lol, instead i see dieing ones... Its ok, we need to laugh once in a while plus you guys all here are my dear brothers and sisters, and I am not going to mind anything.... By the way, Manoj shamlayan went to penn state universtiy and he was working on something with mehta mrs mehta on another horor story...... The knife thing is only for the "comfort" of the person who is hearing or thinking that he/she is hearing things......... The knife doesnt matter anything of steel clean with the last three surah of the quran read and blown on them is usually used...but it really has no significance unless used to cut a "hisar" for zikr... Hence no big deal about the knife thing........ Infact we really dont have to worry about jinns cause they only contact us when we do one of the following... burn something ! with fumes under trees.......urinate, especially female urination in places where they dwell, usually trees and oasis in deserts.... bury bones, and if we seal a natural water fountain.....by throwing stones in it........, killing snakes and dogs as well......... These are the major things if done by an individual then we have problems otherwise not....... The ghosts issue is also non threatning, its not ghosts, instead its vibrant energy which shifts phases and usually if glowing red light the size of a dime is accompanied with it then we can say for sure otherwise its not that big of a problem....sura yaseen is one of the best defensive shields against this sort of thing.......... Mulla! [quote author=Dude link=board=madrasa;num=1047040305;start=30#33 date=04/22/03 at 18:32:41]Just so people know (it was pointed out to me that Mulla might think I was being disrespectful), I was kidding around with the last post. A little banter. You know, "Sixth Sense"? ::) I'm sure Mulla will get it. Kindest regards, Halley Joel Osmond.[/quote] |
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| Masuma |
| 04/23/03 at 03:45:33 |
| [slm] [color=Purple][/color]wow what a great person here. ok let me ask few questions Mulla.as always I dont want to miss any opportunity. Whats the main difference between pari/jin/mawakil/afreet things?Are these the different kinds of Jinn? can rooh visit this world again,once from Alam barzakh? can humans see jinns in their original form? and are they same as humans?where do they live? and lastly is it right to be curious about unseen objects? ::) [wlm] |
| 04/23/03 at 08:32:30 |
| Masuma |
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| Abu_Atheek |
| 04/23/03 at 06:31:05 |
| [slm] [quote]I think its best that we practice wot is recommended by the Prophet saw, instead. For example, seeking protection from Allah though du'as and ibadah (worship).[/quote] Al-Bukhari and Muslim relate the Hadith in which Uthman ibn Affan states that he heard the Prophet [saw] saying: "He who says three times every morning and three times every evening: (I appeal) by the name of God, whose name prevents all harm by anything in the Earth or in the heavens, He is the all-hearing, all-knowing', will not be harmed by anything." (Related by Al Bukhari, Muslim and others). The Arabic text of this supplication is as follows: "Bismillahi allathi la yadurru ma' ismihi shay'un fi al ardhi wala fi assama', wa huwa asamee' al-aleem." It is sufficient to say that this Hadith tells us of a form of supplication which ensures that nothing can inflict any harm on us when we say it three times early in the morning, after dawn has broken and three times after sunset. [center][img]http://www.jannah.org/board/hanifdua.jpg[/img][/center] |
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| Mulla |
| 04/23/03 at 13:19:26 |
| Hush! hehehe Who are you talking about, "great person", lol.......astagfirullah! Well dear readers... The different forms of these entities is valid , but infact all of them are of "vibrant energy" forms... just like us, we humans are all composed of the the same basic elements but we come in different forms and shapes and ethnicity.... Some of these entities never ever cross our borders of existance, mainly water is where the exist.. see we cannot help them in any form other then teachings of Islam but they have their own faith systems.....There is a huge number of them who are muslim in jinnat and some who have lived really long lives..... The issues of rooh visiting back is not my domain of studies.....plus as a muslim the concepts of elieen and sijeen is still open to further tafseer, ibn arabi r.a worked on this but I am not sure if anyone I know in muslims is working on it, in hindus and some budist and some kabalaists are infact experts on this issue but I am not interested in this topic hence wont be able to answer, I do have just empricial knowledge meaning that only book knowledge on this...while working with radio and infra red imaging for cancer research on epidermal isssues I did borrow some photographs of people dieying and the suttle change in their body mass/volume indicated that there is a gradual loss of "air" but during amputations in saudia arabia of heads of criminals no one allows us to resonance image it otherwise I am 110 % sure I can answer more questions on such stuff but alas! Humans can see jinns in their real forms under induced anasthetic type influences......vibrataional and vocal contact is easier to handle then the visual....animals see them more clearly then us but in shades of gray i belive.....not sure though... one thing lemme share with u guys that "jinnat" of the type called "jin" in common have vertical eye lids as compared to ours which are horizontal the open and close but do not blink. this much info on the "phyisque" should be enough.... Where do they live ? , well they live mostly on water, near water , lakes ,oasis, graveyards and deserts, hence places where there is less human interference.....another place is waterfalls , usually behind the waterfall..........there is a new phenomena , not new but new to the public called Rods.......The places where these "rods" are to be seen is highly active with jinn activty as well and we are still working on this subject sporadically as time permits... being curious about stuff like this is ok, we all should be, but being able to handle is the real question...cause whence "they" start making contact then what u gonna do, bad boy bad boy, what u gonna dooooo... Mulla! [quote author=Masuma link=board=madrasa;num=1047040305;start=30#36 date=04/23/03 at 03:45:33] [slm] [color=Purple][/color]wow what a great person here. ok let me ask few questions Mulla.as always I dont want to miss any opportunity. Whats the main difference between pari/jin/mawakil/afreet things?Are these the different kinds of Jinn? can rooh visit this world again,once from Alam barzakh? can humans see jinns in their original form? and are they same as humans?where do they live? and lastly is it right to be curious about unseen objects? ::) [wlm][/quote] |
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| Mulla |
| 04/25/03 at 01:26:56 |
| now why is everyone so quite in here... do u guys see jinns now.. lol..... Mulla! |
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| moonie |
| 05/12/03 at 23:03:10 |
| [slm] When I was in madrassa in Buffalo NY our cook was going up stairs after Fajir and in order to get up stairs you would have to go threw the gym and sone day what happend was that he was going up and he heard someone say Salaam so he said wasalaam it happend for three days stright and one day what happend was that he was coming for Fajir namazz and he got in to a bad accident. he had to go to the hospitel. we were wondering we not going to have breakfast today everyone went up to see if we were and all the eggs were rolled in naan and ready to eat. so like if u do something good even someing as simple as saying [slm] and / or [wlm] something will happen something good or something bad in this case it was a good thing becasue he was not badly hurt he had a cut or two on his arm [wlm] |
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| paula |
| 05/13/03 at 04:10:13 |
| [slm][size=2][font=Verdana][color=Navy] smile..... I have a question here... hoping someone may have the answer... Mulla you are sounding well informed so thought you might have a good idea ;)... but anyone that does would be great ! What allows someone to actually see Jinn? Hmm... wondering if that is a clear question? It is apparent that some people can see them and others cannot etc. So what might the reasons and designations be for someone to be able to see them ?? ""while NOT under induced anasthetic type influences"" Oh ... hoping you have an answer here .... looking forward to it. Excellent post Brother Abu_Atheek after you posted that I felt I could safely ask my question..... I've been holding out..... he he :D [/color][/font][/size] [wlm] |
| 05/13/03 at 04:27:00 |
| paula |
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| samr |
| 05/22/03 at 15:55:32 |
| bsmlahh [slm] if u see a jinni wich u never gonne do is rong because "open ur minds here ok?" Jinn jeneen jannah mjnoon havent u all wonderd y this words allways got J and N????? i will try 2 explain: Jannah is calld jannah because we cant see it but we all know that it is there and waiting for us INSCHA ALLAH. and jeneen is the baby when he isnt finneshed yet "we cant see him but we know that he/she will bee birth some day. and the majnoon (crazy) is calld majnoon because his/hers brain is goon. and the jinn that we r talking abat calls jinn because we all agree that they r real but we can not see them. so thats y nat anybody cant see them But MUHAMMAE salla ALLAH alehe wa alehe we sellem did "he could see them" ::) |
| 05/22/03 at 15:57:07 |
| samr |
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| nouha |
| 05/22/03 at 20:22:28 |
| [slm] me and my albany mafiosa sisters were chillaxing at adi's at few weeks ago when this topic came up.... here are some of the stories that were shared....... 1) one of the girls, we'll call her tweetle dee (HAHA!!! she gonna kill me ;) ) shared lots with us. they happened in her uncles house in (place country name here) the house was built so that even if u were at the top floor you can see all the way to the botto, meaning there was open space... so her cousins and all said that as they pass the hallways at night and look to the floor... they can see a female jinn, young girl with long dark hair (THE RING!!! lol)...... who makes gestures for them to come down. none of them has ever gone down for fear that something might happen to them.... 2) tweetle dee was in her uncles house, and to go to the bathroom you had to pass this living room and hallways which had lots of mirrors hanging up... so one time in the middle of the night (always at night!) she went to the bathroom and on her way back, passed one of the mirrors only to see something behind her. all she said she can remember (before she went running wildly back to her room) was that the thing behind her had a long beard and their hand was coming out to reach them. :o 3) ok so another girl.... we'll call her moonicakes (hahah) or possibly her sister (cant come up with a name) were sleeping in an attic once, so one of the sisters woke up (yup u guessed ... in the middle of the night)... and saw this old lady hunched over the table. she said she quickly closed her eyes after.... ameera - girl i have the SAME exact fear that im gonna look up and see something in the mirror after washing my face... beleiev me after tweetle dee's story i started to keep the door open when washing my face....!! as for the names and small comments i used to describe the stories, its just to lighten up the mood.... cause jinn stories can be freaky.... :o wasalam nouha:) |
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| samr |
| 05/23/03 at 12:31:50 |
| bsmlahh [slm] I DO STILL NAT BELIVING IN ALL THAT but it is still so scerry :-/ am now here 2 may help u all with ur fear "if u got any" first of all i want 2 say that thers no god but ALLAH. and we do know abat 3esraeen. he is the one that take the soul from the body (the death angel) and we knw that he is a good 1. he just take orders from ALLAH and 2 them. the jinn or jannanoa cant :take the life of somebody and they see the future the only 1 that can see the future is ALLAH subhanah. and ouer prophet salla ALLAH aleehe oa allehe oasallam was so close 2 ALLAH that the jinn and the saten himself was sceard from him. so y get sceard of them when we r muslims the people with the right religon. We dont need 2 get sceard from them insted THEY schould bee sceard from us :-[ But they allways tried 2 make ouer prophet [saw] deconsentreated. one day when he were praying a jinn showed up with a fire ball on his hand, then salla ALLAH alehe wa allehe wasallam grab him and was thinkin of tie him with a rope in the masjid but i didnt understand y he didnt it was somthing that Daowd allaeh alsallam sayd (i cant remember what it was. So remember do nat get sceard of them because we schould only fear ALLAH and we should love ALLAH 2 salam |
| 05/26/03 at 12:05:56 |
| samr |
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| onemuslimgirl |
| 05/25/03 at 17:54:13 |
| asalaam alakum, Samr, I think you meant to say that he is NOT a god, you forgot the 'Not'. also, people, lets not forget that jinn are just another creature made by Allah (swt) and we will not be hurt or benefited by them except for that which Allah has ordered them to. Allah also taught us to protect ourselves from them by reading ayat al kursi |
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| samr |
| 05/26/03 at 12:08:40 |
| bsmlahh [slm] :-/ sorry i mean good nat god but GOOD :-/ cant belive that 1 litle letter changed the hool word salam [] |
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| Zameer |
| 06/10/03 at 14:35:59 |
| :-X Wow... I couldn't believe people go this far discussion on Jinns.. The hottest subject in this coner :-/ |
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| samr |
| 06/11/03 at 05:58:32 |
| ye ye............ |
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| samr |
| 06/13/03 at 14:52:22 |
| any jinn story around here? |
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