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The one picture that is IRAQ |
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jannah |
04/07/03 at 16:44:33 |
slm, as per the rules i'm not posting the picture and i'm going to give the warning this is a very graphic image that represents everything in Iraq right now.. it is a picture of a very old man carrying a child, but when you look closer you notice all the blood splattered on both and then you notice the child's legs are blown off :( if there are pulitizer prize winning photographs this should be one of them http://www.jannah.org/board/iraq.jpg |
04/07/03 at 17:03:11 |
jannah |
Re: The one picture that is IRAQ |
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jannah |
04/07/03 at 16:45:19 |
Differing TV images feed Arab, US views By John Donnelly and Anne Barnard, Globe Staff, 3/26/2003 WASHINGTON -- The Arab world sees pictures of bloodied bodies of young children. They watch scenes crowded with corpses, including gruesome images of dead American soldiers. Americans see almost none of that. Their view of the war in Iraq, through television and print, is dominated by long-distance photos of bombs going off in Baghdad and intimate battlefield scenes conveyed by reporters who are traveling with US and British soldiers. The two contrasting visions of this war, one seen by Americans and the other seen in the Middle East, help to sharpen differences over the conflict, say analysts and diplomats. ''Friends from Syria are sending e-mails to me, asking what are the people in the US telling you about the images of civilian casualties,'' said Imad Moustapha, chief of public diplomacy at the Syrian Embassy in Washington. ''My answer to them is very simple and sad: `Sorry, no one is seeing those images here.' '' In the Middle East, one US diplomat, speaking on condition of anonymity, spoke of watching CNN and Fox News one minute and Al-Jazeera and Abu Dhabi TV the next, thinking he was watching different battles. ''The Arab world is seeing trips to the hospitals, grieving parents, while the American cable stations and networks are showing the troops in the field,'' said the diplomat. ''The trouble is, it is creating different memories of the war, and it will reinforce the anger here about what the US is doing.'' US media have shown pictures and written stories about civilian casualties, especially from Baghdad. Television stations and print publications have also shown still photographs and edited video footage of seven US prisoners of war. News executives have said that their ability to independently cover civilian casualties, especially in the southern city of Basra, has been limited because of the dangers of battle there. In contrast, Arab newspapers and television stations in Abu Dhabi, Lebanon, Dubai, Qatar, and elsewhere in the region have placed a heavy emphasis on civilian casualties, especially those involving children. One station showed the scalp of a child that reporters said had been blown off in a bombing. The segment showed the scalp from three different angles. In recent days, both television and newspapers have featured the image of a young girl being pulled from rubble by an older man in a kaffiyeh. It was impossible to know if the girl was dead or alive. She was wrapped in a purple shawl, and both her legs were partially cut off. Some US stations have approached Iraqi casualties with skepticism. In some segments of children in a hospital, reporters have added a caveat that there was no way to independently verify whether the victims had been hurt in air raids. In the most controversial broadcast, Al-Jazeera decided to air gruesome pictures taped by Iraqi television of dead American soldiers outside of Nasiriyah. American television stations declined to do so. During a televised briefing in Qatar, Army Lieutenant General John Abizaid, deputy commander of Combined Forces Command, chided a reporter for Al-Jazeera for the network's decision to air the video. ''The pictures were disgusting,'' Abizaid said, adding that he would not want other stations to show the video. A reporter from Xinghua News Agency of China asked whether such pictures would badly influence the morale of the US troops or the American people. Abizaid said he believed it would not hurt troop morale or damage ''the resolve of our people.'' ''We're a pretty tough people,'' he said. But some analysts said that if Americans viewed the pictures shown to the Arab world, their view of the battles would probably change. Edward S. Walker Jr., president of the Middle East Institute and a former assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern Affairs, said the difference in media coverage is ''one of the huge reasons there is such a disconnect between us and the Arabs.'' ''They have one view of the world, and we have another view,'' he said. ''We are going to treat this war differently than almost any other country will. We don't want to undermine the morale or support of the troops. It's not a time when people want to attack the president, so I believe it is natural that there is a certain amount of self-censorship going on.'' Jeffrey Schneider, a vice president at ABC News, said that some pictures of bodies, including those of American troops, won't be shown because they would violate the network's standards. ''We're confident we are giving our viewers a full and accurate and balanced understanding of this war and all that that entails,'' he said. Schneider contrasted Al-Jazeera's broadcast of the dead American soldiers with a report by Ted Koppel that showed dead Iraqi troops on a battlefield. The ABC cameraman took the pictures ''at a distance, so you couldn't identify their faces,'' he said. ''You told the story that people were killed on this particular battlefield without exploiting those images.'' Hafez al-Mirazi, Washington bureau chief for Al-Jazeera, said he was surprised by the reaction in the United States to the broadcast of the footage of the dead Americans and pointed out that his network had carried equally gruesome footage of dead Iraqis. ''The US media did not carry anything from us of those casualties,'' he said. ''The American TV carries us live when there is bombing in the skies of Baghdad, the shock and awe. But when it comes to the casualties from the Iraqi or the American side, they don't want to see it.'' Mirazi said those graphic images have disturbed people in the Arab world, but there hasn't been outrage of showing the pictures. ''If we didn't show them, that would not be realistic journalism,'' he said. ''In America, there is some kind of difference of perspective and environment. The American audience are more accustomed of video games, particularly after the Gulf War of 1991. ''In the Middle East and the Arab world, people are accustomed to seeing the corpses,'' he said. ''They see the victims of these conflicts.' |
Re: The one picture that is IRAQ |
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jannah |
04/07/03 at 17:00:59 |
From some guys blog I thought was pretty deep: My Own Iraq Dossier Being a historian, I often wonder how events will appear in the future. How will we look back on the events of today? What evidence will people have? How much of it will be lost in the myriad of "stuff" we'll have? For this, I have started compiling my own collection of photographs, articles and video clips. I've tried to collect bits and pieces from all sorts of views on the war in Iraq, though no historian would be so brazen as to claim total objectivity. Of course, a lot of what I've collected reflects my own feelings on the war. I've been saving the written stuff as plain text files since it's the only format I can -guarantee- will be able to be read by computers in the future - 10 years time, say. I can't guarantee we'll all be using Microsoft Word by then, so it seems a sensible choice - though we probably will. I won't upload the material here, I'm afraid, since many websites are currently being shut down by the US Government and Pro-Bush ISP's that carry the sort of things I've been able to get hold of - I've collected many images that are extremely graphic and not suitable for those who are of a nervous disposition. Many of them are images freely available from the Associated Press, but by the time they get to CNN or the BBC, they've been heavily sanitised. Take a picture of an Iraqi child, for example, being carried by her father. The western press photo shows the child bruised and bloodied, her eyes shut - clearly she's been wounded by shrapnel or something - but only the full picture shows the true extent of the horror of war. Her legs have been blown off below the knee, but not cleanly. Just two mangled appendages hang limply there instead. I don't want my Blog to get shut down, so I won't put these images up. Nor am I collecting them for any kind of amusement or bizarre trophy-hunting. I'm collecting them so that I can say to my children in the future, when they say - "Dad, what -really- happened in the Iraq War? Do you remember it?", I'll be able to show them the full horrors of war when they're ready. The written sources will also help to show that history was not black and white. In the 21st Century, there has to be a better way. There just has to be. :: Chris 12:08 AM [+] :: http://christurner.blogspot.com/ ... |
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UmmWafi |
04/07/03 at 22:32:36 |
[slm] Jannah, I have been thinking somewhat about this too (ouch my head hurts :) ). At times, I think the torturers in this war are the different news networks, with their cold coverage of the war scenes and battles. Unfair and unbalanced reporting aside, I wonder what good does it serve us having scenes after scenes of bombing and firepower brought live into our homes 24/7 ? If someone is anti-war, those same scenes would hurt him even further while if someone is pro-war, I think images like that would only fuel his bloodlust..... Truly, these are dark times. Only aggression takes centrestage, while the dead and maimed languish in anonymity. Astarghfirullah. Wassalam. |
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gharib |
04/08/03 at 13:56:15 |
[slm] This site contains catalogued pictures with running comments, updated daily. some of the pictures are graphic. http://www.marchforjustice.com/id191.htm |
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