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| Fisk said all that I was thinking |
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| ascetic |
| 04/09/03 at 23:00:41 |
| [slm] Fisk articulated exactly what was on my mind. What Americans want to paint as "Liberation" is nothing but slavery in another form. As he points out, people celebrated and danced with joy even when Saddam's Baath party came to power. I urge everyone to read this excellent article: http://argument.independent.co.uk/commentators/story.jsp?story=395707 If the article is too long, just read the excerpts below: It is the beginning of our new freedom," an Iraqi shopkeeper shouted at me. Then he paused, and asked: "What do the Americans want from us now?' The great Lebanese poet Kalil Gibran once wrote that he pitied the nation that welcomed its tyrants with trumpetings and dismissed them with hootings of derision. And the people of Baghdad performed this same deadly ritual yesterday, forgetting that they – or their parents – had behaved in identical fashion when the Arab Socialist Baath Party destroyed the previous dictatorship of Iraq's generals and princes. Forgetting, too, that the "liberators" were a new and alien and all-powerful occupying force with neither culture nor language nor race nor religion to unite them with Iraq. ... In one sense, therefore, America – occupying the capital of an Arab nation for the first time in its history – was helping to destroy what it had spent so much time and money creating. Saddam was "our" man and yesterday, metaphorically at least, we annihilated him. Hence the importance of all those statue- bashing mobs, of all that looting and theft. ... Yes, they all say the war will be over soon. There will be a homecoming no doubt for Corporal Breeze and I suppose I admired his innocence despite the deadly realities that await America in this dangerous, cruel land. For even as the marine tanks thrashed and ground down the highway, there were men and women who saw them and stood, the women scarved, the men observing the soldiers with the most acute attention, who spoke of their fear for the future, who talked of how Iraq could never be ruled by foreigners. ... "You'll see the celebrations and we will be happy Saddam has gone," one of them said to me. "But we will then want to rid ourselves of the Americans and we will want to keep our oil and there will be resistance and then they will call us "terrorists". [sarcasm]Hmmm.. how come they didn't interview this guy on CNN?[/sarcasm] ... At the Palestine Hotel, they smashed Saddam's portrait on the lobby floor and set light to the hoarding of the same wretched man over the front door. They cried "Allahuakbar" meaning God is Greater. And there was a message there, too, for the watching Marines if they had understood it. ... And so last night, as the explosion of tank shells still crashed over the city, Baghdad lay at the feet of a new master. They have come and gone in the city's history, Abbasids and Ummayads and Mongols and Turks and British and now the Americans. The United States embassy reopened yesterday and soon, no doubt, when the Iraqis have learned to whom they must now be obedient friends, President Bush will come here and there will be new "friends" of America to open a new relationship with the world, new economic fortunes for those who "liberated" them, and – equally no doubt – relations with Israel and a real Israeli embassy in Baghdad. ... Thank god for Fisk, there is still a true voice in the myriad of "journalists" [wlm] [wlm] |
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| Re: Fisk said all that I was thinking |
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| panjul |
| 04/10/03 at 19:04:02 |
| At the Palestine Hotel, they smashed Saddam's portrait on the lobby floor and set light to the hoarding of the same wretched man over the front door. They cried "Allahuakbar" meaning God is Greater. And there was a message there, too, for the watching Marines if they had understood it. Yes, AllahuAkbar (God is Great) indeed! AllahuAkbar, many, many times! And yes, when the iraqis will want to keep their oil, then they will be like, they shouted "Allahu Akbar!" They are religious fanatics/terrorists. I was listening to the radio (Pacifica) and this Iraqi American was being interviewd who has opened a org. called "Iraqi Americans for a Peaceful Alternative" (or something like that) who said that people should remember that the celebration of the destruction of Saddam's statue not only represented the fall of Saddam but also the fall of the sanctions imposed by America and Britian that turned iraq from a wealthy nation to a third world country. An independent reporter stated that the people cheering and smashing saddam's statue, afterwards (can't remember the location, but in Baghdad somewhere) the people went up to the marines and asked when they were going to be given electricity and clean water. The marines replied that wasn't thier job, that they weren't there to do that, that's not the reason why they are there. So the men got angry and shouted at them. NOW, why didn't we see this? Don't people realize that they are celebrating the fall of Saddam, but also celebrating a future free of sanctions which took their education, health and food away? And when they won't get it, when the won't return to the prosperity that was before the sanctions, then the Americans/British will clash with them and then they will be as typical a terrorists as the Taliban and Palestinians. And, as far as I remember, we went in their to find weapons of mass destruction, not throw down statues. People are calling that as a victory, no, the SMOKING GUN was NOT finding saddam's statues. The smoking gun was the WEAPONS of MASS DESTRUCTION. Where are they? The sites that they said had contained them, have turned up empty. So now they are saying that Saddam has transported them to Syria. (Possible "smoking gun" to bomb Syrian?) How come saddam have done that, with the fact that unmanned spy planes have been flying over Iraq for for a long time now? The troops were already close to the Kuwait border, when the US is saying the Iraqis moved the WMDs. Don't tell me the most sophisticated military in the world didn't see anything moving along the syrian border, while they were stationed so close to the border of Kuwait! |
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