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| Slurrpy |
| 04/23/03 at 21:12:20 |
| [slm] I have another question, .. What are all the optional prayers and when are they done, and are they done out loud? ... sorry if I ask too much ::) [wlm] I know, I'm annoying ;D |
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| bhaloo |
| 04/23/03 at 22:22:50 |
| [slm] Thank you for your questions, and you aren't annoying, its wonderful to hear that you have these questions and you aren't afraid to ask them. Please continue to do so brother. :) This chart is a little easier to read and tells you which ones are silent and which are read aloud and the numbers in each prayer. http://members.cox.net/arshad/praysched.html |
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| ascetic |
| 04/26/03 at 06:48:13 |
| [slm] I think the bro might have been asking about the daily non-obligatory prayers: Tahajjud (After midnight and before Fajr. It has a maximum of 8 raka'ah, according to some 12, prayed 2 raka'ah each time.) Dhuha aka Ishraq (any time from about half an hour after sunrise till shortly before noon. It is a minimum of two and maximum of eight rak'ahs which are offered separately, two rak'ahs at a time) Awwabeen (After Maghrib. It has 6 raka'ah, prayed 2 raka'ah each time) Also I think there is a minor mistake in the chart. The 3 raka't in isha are Wajib and not Nafl. Just thought I'd point that out. If I missed something, someone please correct me. [wlm] |
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| Tesseract |
| 04/27/03 at 09:19:16 |
| Assalamu 'alaikum, [quote]This chart is a little easier to read and tells you which ones are silent and which are read aloud and the numbers in each prayer. http://members.cox.net/arshad/praysched.html [/quote] [quote]Also I think there is a minor mistake in the chart. The 3 raka't in isha are Wajib and not Nafl. Just thought I'd point that out.[/quote] Bhaloo, u might wanna modify that chart not only for the 3 rak'ahs Witr in 'Isha (which are wajib, as pointed out by bro. zahid), but also for 2 rak'ahs sunnah (ghair-moakkadah) before the Fard prayers of maghrib according to Shafi'ee madhhab, or if not that, atleast mention that this prayer schedule is according to Hanafi madhhab. And Allah knows the Best. Wassalam. |
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| bhaloo |
| 04/28/03 at 22:31:11 |
| [slm] Jazak Allah khairen brothers for your posts. I apologize for the delay in my response as I wanted to make sure I cited the proper references and not waste your time. Regarding the witr prayer I cite the following reference from Fiqh us Sunnah. Fiqh 2.11b The Witr Prayer Its excellence and justification: The witr prayer is one that the Prophet sallallahu alehi wasallam practiced and which he encouraged others to practice. As such, praying witr comes under as-sunnah al-mu'akkadah. 'Ali says: "The witr prayer is not required like your obligatory prayers, but the Prophet would perform the witr prayer and say: 'O you people [followers] of the Qur'an, perform the witr prayer, for Allah is one and He loves the witr.'" This is related by Ahmad, an-Nasa'i, Abu Dawud, Ibn Majah, at-Tirmidhi who calls it hasan, and al-Hakim who grades it sahih. The opinion of Abu Hanifah that the witr prayer is obligatory is a weak opinion. Ibn al-Mundhir says: "I don't know anyone who agrees with Abu Hanifah on this point." Ahmad, Abu Dawud, An-Nasa'i, and Ibn Majah record that Al-Mukhdaji [a person of the Kinana tribe] heard from one of the Ansar, nicknamed Abu Muhammad, that the witr prayer is obligatory. He went to 'Ibadah ibn as-Samit and mentioned to him what Abu Muhammad had said. 'Ibadah observed: "Abu Muhammad is mistaken for I heard the Messenger of Allah say: 'Five prayers are ordained by Allah for his slaves. Whoever fulfills them properly without any shortcoming, he will have a pact with Allah that He will admit him into paradise. Whoever does not do them, he will have no pact with Allah, and if He wills He may punish him and if He wills He may forgive him.'" Also al-Bukhari and Muslim record from Talhah ibn 'Ubaidullah that the Prophet said: "Five prayers during the day and night have been prescribed by Allah." Hearing this a bedouin asked the Prophet: "Is there anything else upon me [in the way of prayer]?" The Prophet said: "No, unless you want to do more voluntarily." [quote] but also for 2 rak'ahs sunnah (ghair-moakkadah) before the Fard prayers of maghrib according to Shafi'ee madhhab, or if not that, atleast mention that this prayer schedule is according to Hanafi madhhab. And Allah knows the Best. [/quote] Is there any daleel you have for this opinion? I actually hadn't heard this view before. |
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| Tesseract |
| 05/08/03 at 01:01:40 |
| Assalamu 'alaikum, [quote]Is there any daleel you have for this opinion? I actually hadn't heard this view before. [/quote] Sorry for being late on this but here is the link: [url]http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/law/fiqhussunnah/fus2_12.html[/url] Wassalam. |
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| sofia |
| 05/08/03 at 12:15:16 |
| As-salaamu ‘alaykum wa rahmatullah, Haven’t researched it extensively, but Muhammad AlShareef mentioned both the Witr prayer and the 2 raka’a before maghrib at his Usool-ul-Fiqh course a few months back. He basically said that most (3 out of 4?) madh-habs have concluded that witr is waajib, while Hanafi jurists conclude that it’s a sunnah mu’akkadah (highly emphasized sunnah that the Prophet, s, never left, even while traveling. Not necessarily a general ‘nafl’). And that the [url=http://www.assalafi.com/tahiyat1.htm]2 raka’a before maghrib[/url] should be prayed between the ‘adhaan and the ‘iqaamah whenever possible. Allahu A’lim. Always best to consult with someone knowledgeable, esp. where there is a difference of opinion (like a trusted scholar, shaykh, imam, etc), rather than books alone (although books are good). |
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| sofia |
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| humble_muslim |
| 05/08/03 at 14:45:28 |
| AA Now here's a question. Is one accountable for miising nafl/suunah salats ? I have seen some books MENTION this but without the proof. Does anyone knwo what the proof for this opinion is ? |
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| Marcie |
| 05/09/03 at 20:09:36 |
| [color=Teal] [slm] [quote]Awwabeen (After Maghrib. It has 6 raka'ah, prayed 2 raka'ah each time) [/quote] I heard about these sunnah prayers about a year ago, but was given no further information. By any chance do you know of any hadith that refers to Awwabeen? Jazakum Allah Khairun. [wlm] Marcie[/color] |
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| Yasmeena |
| 05/11/03 at 19:34:59 |
| [slm] Thank you for your question. I had that one also. ??? To Bhaloo - thank you for the link. I had never seen that one before and it looks interesting. ;) Yasmeena :-) [wlm] |
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| ascetic |
| 05/14/03 at 18:46:39 |
| [quote author=Marcie link=board=lighthouse;num=1051143141;start=0#8 date=05/09/03 at 20:09:36][color=Teal] [slm] I heard about these sunnah prayers about a year ago, but was given no further information. By any chance do you know of any hadith that refers to Awwabeen? Jazakum Allah Khairun. [wlm] Marcie[/color][/quote] [slm] This is what I came up with after a cursory search on Google: Salah al Awwabeen[\b] Salat al Awwabeen is a nafil prayer which consists of 6 rakats. It is performed after the compulsory, fard prayer of Maghrib and before the Isha prayer. In between these two times. The traditional (original) practice for the prayer to be performed is of 6 rakats, though from the ahadith mentioned, it can be prayed for up to 20 rakats. Here is its description as found in at at-Tirmidhi, Mishkat: A'isha (radiAllahu Ta'ala anha) narrated that the Prophet (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) said: For the person who offers 20 Rak'ah nafl after the Maghrib Salat Allah Ta'ala will make a house for him in Paradise. Whoeverprays six rakats after Maghrib and does not talk in between them get the rewardof 12 years of worship and his sins are forgiven even if they are many like thefroth on the surface of the ocean. [at-Tirmidhi] Abu Hurairah (radiAllahu Ta'ala anhu) narrated that the Prophet (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) said: The person who offers 6 Raka'ah Nafl after the Maghrib Salah, and does not speak evil in between receives rewards equal to 12 years of worship. [at-Tirmidhi, Mishkat, Tarteeb pg. 169] I'm not sure about the classification of this hadith (sahih, hasan etc.). Sorry. [wlm] |
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| muahmed |
| 05/14/03 at 20:54:45 |
| [slm] ;-) [quote author=zahid link=board=lighthouse;num=1051143141;start=0#2 date=04/26/03 at 06:48:13] Tahajjud (After midnight and before Fajr. It has a maximum of 8 raka'ah, according to some 12, prayed 2 raka'ah each time.) [/quote] I don't think there is a maximum limit on Tahajjud. What you mention can be sunnah, but not a binding limit. Correct me if I am wrong. and Allah knows best. |
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