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Can you Help? (problem knee)
a_Silver_Rose
04/28/03 at 18:41:23
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My mom has extreme pain all around her knee and it keeps getting worse. Its pretty swollen. It hurts my mom alot just to move her leg:( Really the doctors dont know what to do. I put warm oil mixed with clove and I also massaged balm for couple days on her knee but its really not helping too much. Is there anything else we can do?
04/28/03 at 19:29:47
a_Silver_Rose
Re: Can you Help? (problem knee)
Mulla
04/28/03 at 23:16:26
B.Rahman Raheem...


If your dear mom is around 50 or above 50 this is normal, and we can fix it right away unless its a fluid issue...

Please get her Folic Acid not less then 400 micrograms, this is necessary for wear and tear in the body....it might change the color of her urine but thats normal.....

No side effects and inshallah let me know if she benefits, but you might have to supervize this for at least a few weeks......if you cannot find 800 microgram bottle then buy the 400 one and two pills , the bottle contains how to intake the medicine.....


let me know how it goes.....


Mulla!
Re: Can you Help? (problem knee)
paula
04/29/03 at 03:07:48
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Oh Sister Silverose..... I'm really sad to hear your mother is suffering like that..... I've tried to brainstorm here real quickly and cannot come up with anything on knee issues.......  Again all I can offer are my prayers on this end.

As for the folic Acid... I myself have heard of several women who have been taking these suppliments.... I only wish now I would have inquired as to why & what benefits they were seeing from them.

Many prayers from this end Sister, If I come upon anything helpful in the meantime, I'll be sure and come back to post.

Take care of your mother & yourself .... Hope she finds relief soon..... Insha Allah
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Re: Can you Help? (problem knee)
paula
04/29/03 at 03:42:03
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Sorry Sister..... I'm back so quickly.... I have a Coast Guard edition of "The American Medical Associations.... Guide to your families symptoms".... I reference it for such issues when I find them personally....... it gives kind of a flow chart style guide..... well in any case... thought to check it quickly

What surprises me is that you said the doctor really didn't know what to do about it ??..... wondering if she may need a follow up visit ??

It's hard to walk through the chart without knowing more about her issue & seeing it..... but a couple say that blood work may help diagnose.... should it be something such as:

gout......( this it says the knee would be red/ hot/ swollen and very painful to the touch).... this would take special medications it says and possible diet change

Bursitis..... (possible if painful mainly when bending, for example kneeling)... that isn't sounding like what you described..... but that suggests just asprin.... and few weeks recovery

osteoarthritis ...... (this one states if been trouble for some time/generally over 50).... again physician recommendations

actue infection....(this would be also red/hot/swollen) again physician recommendations

sprain.... (although this doesn't sound like what you described)... 24hrs cool the injured part........ Support injured joint w/firm but not overtight bandage..... rest a day or so.

Still wondering if she may need a follow up visit since it is getting worse insted of better.... and would be interested in if there is heat along with the swolleness...........  it does say here too that sometimes anti-inflamitories can be injected right in by the physician to help the process.

Well...... I truly hope she's able to get relief soon..... Insha Allah....take care and keep us posted...... thinking about her.

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Re: Can you Help? (problem knee)
Tesseract
04/29/03 at 04:31:53
Wa'alaikum Assalam wa rahmatullah,

       Seems more like "Arthritis" to me, but I wonder how come the doctors don't know what to do? Did u see the doctors here in States and they said "they don't know". Did they do any investigations like blood test, X-ray etc..?

Wassalam.
Re: Can you Help? (problem knee)
Barr
04/29/03 at 06:58:01
Assalamu'alaikum :)

Br Mulla do U think it'll work for me too? I got problems with my knee too.

That's after I had a bad fall in 2001... in a busy busy place... deep deep embarrassment.

So, anywho.. I went to my GP, which refered me to a specialist, which refered me to a physiotherapist.. and the pain is still there. I stopped going coz, they're just giving painkillers or some heat treatment and they made me pay a shameful amt of money.

If it has gone really chilly during Fajr, (and U don't usually get chilly Fajrs here in the equator), I sometimes, have to pray sitting down :( coz, it hurts to stand up from sujud, or to go down to sujud. I've stopped all strenuous exercises too :(

The physiotherapist said, that there's this tissue stuff in your knee.. I think its called a phallic band or smt, that dissapears as U grow. But for some adults, it does not disappear and would trigger, continous or sporadic pain, when they suffered a fall... or smt like that, she explained.

So, this can't be cured unless U go for operation, if the pain is really bad. But an operation does not gurantee that the pain would go away either... so, Allahua'lam.

She also taught me how to massage the knee correctly, directly where the band is, then, cool it off with ice. I'd really suggest that U go to a physio.. coz, really, the doctors don't tell me anything. Its the physio, that helped me a lot, alhamdulillah.

Anyways.. its gone better now since I had the swollen knee due to the fall, and the pain...  so I know how it feels.

I'll be trying foot reflexology, coz, I heard its highly recommended. My friend's mom went to one, and her knee got practically cured or smt, mashaALlah!

One good thing that I learnt from this is that Allah gave me a little pain to experience how the elderly must have suffered and especially, my mom. She's got athritis. And that pain helped me to appreciate her more now, mashaAllah.

And for every pain, inshaALlah, its taharah (purification) for our souls.

I pray Allah relieves her pain, and make it easy for her. But I would suggest that she visits the physio. Also, get it x-rayed. It could be athritis, if there is wear and tear to the bone or others mentioned by simply_sister. Otherwise, it could be wot I have.

Allahua'lam
Re: Can you Help? (problem knee)
Dude
04/30/03 at 11:34:21
Knees pains are so dodgy.

Bursitis is a common overuse injury. It can creep up when you take on a new activity and are continually repeating it. I get it in my right knee at the beginning of training for every new soccer season (thins started about 3 years ago). I treat it with ice / heat / ice / heat / ice / heat (15 minute intervals each) after training sessions. Eventually, it goes away.

Arthritis has to be the most difficult to treat, and I have very little experience with it (but I’m a prime target for it, given my looooooooooooooong history of injuries. I would think icing the knee down will help reduce the swelling. Again, only for 15 minute intervals. She’ll probably have to start taking Tylenol on a regular basis.

(I prefer a cocktail of Tylenol & Advil, for best results.)

Sprains need to be treated, typically through physiotherapy. A long, but worthwhile process. I’ve suffered partial tears of my MCL in both knees over the last two seasons. Two seasons ago I took a full 8 weeks to rehab (only after playing my last game). The regiment is basically ice / heat, ultrasound, and tens (electrodes) treatment, followed by specific stretching and weight bearing exercises. Riding the stationary bike is great for the knee, as long as the bike is set properly for height. If you have an injury (from your fall), I’d highly recommend seeing a reputable Physiotherapist for a consult. Good ones can peg an injury, and come up with a good rehab plan in one session. Mine is great…he’s brutally honest, too. With my torn rotator cuff last year (yes, another injury) he actually told me that even a perfectly followed rehab plan would only get me to 80%, and if I wanted to be 100%, I’d need orthroscopic surgery. He was bang-on.

Surgery is followed by a really strict physio regiment too, but my recovery to 100% was about 3 months for me...rotator cuff repair, and re-attached bicept tendon (it had been severed). I'd really messed up my shoulder. My physio and sugeon got me back to full competitive activity.


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