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Ideas 4 the wedding?
a_Silver_Rose
05/04/03 at 19:58:16
[slm] :D not my wedding! Soo many people are getting married this summer  insh'Allah and one of them is a good friend. So we are gonna have lots of mendhi's (dance parties) (woman only) So any ideas for songs? For one I wanted to try something new.. so I thought about 'meri jaan habiba'...... Also any ideas on what to do for her. Im thinking bout marriage shower. so if you have any ideas on what to do in the marriage shower? ANy other ideas how we can make the wedding good, decorations, ect. anything?
05/06/03 at 15:35:30
a_Silver_Rose

Re: Ideas 4 the wedding?
Nistar
05/06/03 at 00:34:55
Try, http://soundvision.com/Info/weddings/ --could be a good start. I particularly enjoyed the idea of a "wedding program" -- so each guest knows what is going on when.  The last wedding I went to, there was a miscommunication with the caterers and the organizers.  Food was set out buffet style, before the Bride and Groom had even entered the dining hall!  So when the wedding train came in to be displayed, half of the Aunties were already digging into the food!  :-/ As for decoration -- find out what the bride wants ;)  Candles floating in water serve as nice centerpieces (IMHO). Peace, Nistar

Re: Ideas 4 the wedding?
theOriginal
05/06/03 at 04:16:06
[slm] ooh man...weddings on your end too?  about 75% of my friends are married...or in the process of getting there by the end of this year.  It's kind of scary.  Some of my friends have kids running around...and they have turned into hardcore "aunties".  You know...the kind that we always vowed not to be like ;) I say go with a theme, in terms of decoration.  One of my friends got married last year (very tastefully, mashaAllah), and they had a RED/YELLOW theme in the mehndi.  I know!  Red is a strange color for a mehndi, but it worked.  All the girls were wearing red shalwar kameezes, and then there was my friend wearing the traditional mehndi yellow, so she stood out nicely.  Then everything else was red and yellow.  The flowers, the tabletops, the swing thing which she was sitting on.   The guys from her side of the family (it was segregated, but we got to see them dance) were wearing black shalwar kameezes with the red dupatta thingies.  I thought it was so effective.   Other themes:  instead of a color, concentrate on a flower.. Wasalaam...(weddings are SO exciting)

Re: Ideas 4 the wedding?
faisalsb
05/15/03 at 00:28:21
[slm] I was just wondering is it halal to sing and dance on marriage parties even if it's segregated? I'll appreciate if any one can come up with some authentic fatwa or ruling since I couldn't find anything clear about the issue.

Re: Ideas 4 the wedding?
a_Silver_Rose
05/15/03 at 00:44:04
[wlm] Brother Welcome to the board. YOu should introduce yourself at the bebzi stand :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Title of Fatwa Music and Dance Between Women Date of Reply 11/ December/ 1999 Topic Of Fatwa  Music   Question of Fatwa Is the music and dance between girls halal or haram?   Content of Reply If singing does not impede you from doing mandatory activities such as praying, studying or doing other obligations, and it does not coincide with unlawful things such as bad words, then its lawful. Everything is permissible unless there is a clear statement of prohibition. Similarly, dancing is also allowed especially among women unless it impedes carrying out mandatory obligations or coincides with unlawful acts. source: http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/english/FatwaDisplay.asp?hFatwaID=3404
05/15/03 at 15:28:38
a_Silver_Rose

Re: Ideas 4 the wedding?
jannah
05/15/03 at 01:16:15
[slm] This site had alot of nice stuff...http://www.weddingsutra.com/planning/center_favor_main.asp

Re: Ideas 4 the wedding?
faisalsb
05/15/03 at 02:54:05
[slm] Thanks Sister Silverose for your quick reply. Inshallah I'll introduce myself on bebzi stand Well fatwa is there but it's not backed with reference from Quran and hadith and particularly when I look at following mentioned hadiths I get confused: Book 41, Number 4909: Narrated Abdullah ibn Mas'ud: Salam ibn Miskin, quoting an old man who witnessed AbuWa'il in a wedding feast, said: They began to play, amuse and sing. He united the support of his hand round his knees that were drawn up, and said: I heard Abdullah (ibn Mas'ud) say: I heard the apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) say: Singing produces hypocrisy in the heart. Volume 2, Book 15, Number 70: Narrated Aisha: Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) came to my house while two girls were singing beside me the songs of Buath (a story about the war between the two tribes of the Ansar, the Khazraj and the Aus, before Islam). The Prophet (p.b.u.h) lay down and turned his face to the other side. Then Abu Bakr came and spoke to me harshly saying, "Musical instruments of Satan near the Prophet (p.b.u.h) ?" Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) turned his face towards him and said, "Leave them." When Abu Bakr became inattentive, I signalled to those girls to go out and they left. It was the day of 'Id, and the Black people were playing with shields and spears; so either I requested the Prophet (p.b.u.h) or he asked me whether I would like to see the display. I replied in the affirmative. Then the Prophet (p.b.u.h) made me stand behind him and my cheek was touching his cheek and he was saying, "Carry on! O Bani Arfida," till I got tired. The Prophet (p.b.u.h) asked me, "Are you satisfied (Is that sufficient for you)?" I replied in the affirmative and he told me to leave. Volume 5, Book 58, Number 268: Narrated Aisha: That once Abu Bakr came to her on the day of 'Id-ul-Fitr or 'Id ul Adha while the Prophet was with her and there were two girl singers with her, singing songs of the Ansar about the day of Buath. Abu Bakr said twice. "Musical instrument of Satan!" But the Prophet said, "Leave them Abu Bakr, for every nation has an 'Id (i.e. festival) and this day is our 'Id." Book 14, Number 2678: Narrated Sa'id ibn Yarbu' al-Makhzumi: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: on the day of the conquest of Mecca: There are four persons whom I shall not give protection in the sacred and non-sacred territory. He then named them. There were two singing girls of al-Maqis; one of them was killed and the other escaped and embraced Islam. So I think there is fine line between being dancing and singing halal or haram. Allah Knows the best

Re: Ideas 4 the wedding?
a_Silver_Rose
05/15/03 at 18:34:19
[wlm] Yes Brother .......Here is some info: Dancing: WHat is Halal and What is Haraam? http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/english/FatwaDisplay.asp?hFatwaID=78988

Re: Ideas 4 the wedding?
a_Silver_Rose
05/15/03 at 18:40:25
[slm] On Singing..... [i]'Aishah narrated that when a woman was married to an Ansari man, the Prophet (peace be on him) said, " 'Aishah, did they have any entertainment? The Ansar are fond of entertainment.'' (Reported by al-Bukhari.) Ibn 'Abbas said, " 'Aishah gave a girl relative of hers in marriage to a man of the Ansar. The Prophet (peace be on him) came and asked, 'Did you send a singer along with her?' 'No,' said 'Aishah. The Messenger of Allah (peace be on him) then said, The Ansar are a people who love poetry. You should have sent along someone who would sing, 'Here we come, to you we come, greet us as we greet you.' " (Reported by Ibn Majah.) 'Aishah narrated that during the days of Mina, on the day of 'Eid al-Adha, two girls were with her, singing and playing on a hand drum. The Prophet (peace be on him) was present, listening to them with his head under a shawl. Abu Bakr then entered and scolded the girls. The Prophet (peace be on him), uncovering his face, told him, "Let them be, Abu Bakr. These are the days of 'Eid." (Reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) It is reported that many Companions of the Prophet (may Allah be pleased with them) as well as second-generation Muslim scholars used to listen to singing and did not see anything wrong with it. As for the ahadith, which have been reported against singing, they are all weak and have been shown by researchers to be unsound. The jurist Abu Bakr al-'Arabi says, "No sound hadith is available concerning the prohibition of singing," while Ibn Hazm says, "All that is reported on this subject is false and fabricated " [/i] For more information and the source http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/english/FatwaDisplay.asp?hFatwaID=2943
05/16/03 at 17:06:57
a_Silver_Rose

Re: Ideas 4 the wedding?
se7en
05/16/03 at 02:44:09
as salaamu alaykum wa rahmatullah, there is a difference of opinion among scholars about music hence it is not a topic open for discussion on the message board (as none of us are qualified to make or give fatawa).  please bring your questions/issues up with a faqih/scholar/knowledgeable person in your area. jazak Allahu khayran wasalaamu alaykum :-)
05/16/03 at 02:44:42
se7en

Re: Ideas 4 the wedding?
faisalsb
05/18/03 at 02:49:44
[slm] Thanks Sister Silverose it's really an excellent article on the topic ... Don't worry Sister Se7en we are not going to fight on the board it's just matter of exchanging the knowledge and trying to make ourselves follow Quran and Sunnah. Now in result of this discussion I know something what I didn't know before .... Jazakalla hu Khairyan

Re: Ideas 4 the wedding?
Abu_Hamza
05/18/03 at 20:01:35
[slm] Just a word of caution ... there is a difference between the use of musical instruments and singing. wassalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah

Re: Ideas 4 the wedding?
a_Silver_Rose
05/19/03 at 00:48:12
[slm] Brother Faisal you are very welcome. ANd thankyou also because while I looked for the info I also learned alot more on the subject. Jazak Allahu Kair. Thankyou people for all the good info, ideas/thoughts... More Ideas are very welcme and also If you have ne ideas for wedding shower games....hmm u can private message me if you cant post it here...  :) Jazak Allahu Kair your sister
05/19/03 at 00:56:55
a_Silver_Rose

Re: Ideas 4 the wedding?
a_Silver_Rose
05/19/03 at 01:05:20
[quote] Just a word of caution ... there is a difference between the use of musical instruments and singing.   wassalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah [/quote] Brother Abu Hamza here is some good info on this:http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/english/FatwaDisplay.asp?hFatwaID=40116

Re: Ideas 4 the wedding?
EMILY
05/20/03 at 23:18:55
I was just wondering, since we're on the suject of weddings. Does anyone know of any good web site for Islamic wedding dresses?

Re: Ideas 4 the wedding?
jannah
05/21/03 at 13:46:34
[slm] emily... getting married soon? congratulations :) check out our old fashion thread ---> [url=http://www.jannah.org/cgi-bin/madina/YaBB.pl?board=archives;action=display;num=1041480732] here [/url] but i'm assuming u'd want the white american style wedding dress??

Re: Ideas 4 the wedding?
EMILY
05/21/03 at 21:29:24
Not yet Jannah, Insha Allah soon. I just wanted to look at some of the different styles of Islamic wedding dresses. I'm not too crazy about the white american style wedding dress. ::) What are some colors that you can and should not wear for your wedding? I have looked up what customs are performed at an Islamic wedding but think that if your a convert and marring someone who is not then the ceremony is a little different? I don't know though. ??? If you have any other info I would really appreciate it. Thank you. Masalaama Emily

Re: Ideas 4 the wedding?
jannah
05/21/03 at 22:47:17
salam, well most muslim weddings are very different besides the requirements of nikah... some are separate so the bride has more choice in what she wears.. others are together so she is still wearing hijab and long sleeves and makes it a challenge to find/convert something for use... there is also a plethora of different cultural things that happen at weddings depending on where the bride and groom are from... i'd suggest just designing a wedding that works for you and your needs...  zawaj has some good articles on different cultural aspects of weddings:  http://www.zawaj.com/weddingways_main.html you can check it out and do some research on what interests you... as for dresses i've never seen any issues about what color u can wear.... here is one of my favorite style of wedding dresses by the way (long skirt and long top with design work on both and the long dupatta scarf): (bros skip this part ;)) . . [img]http://www.jannah.org/board/whiteweddingdress.jpg[/img]
05/21/03 at 23:03:34
jannah

Re: Ideas 4 the wedding?
Shahida
05/22/03 at 08:19:45
[slm] :-) Oh my Jannah!  Thats just gorg sis! love it...but alas, dont think I would ever wear something like this:( This thread made me think of wedding practices...come on girls, what kinds of stuff do you do at wedding parties in your part of the world?  What does everyone wear, what do you eat, where is everyone (stage, no stage, separate, mixed etc...). Depending on which kinda caste you have here in SA, things work differently with the Mehndi nights and the wedding reception and the Walima...more about that later... Share what its like for you guys... Salam

Re: Ideas 4 the wedding?
wardah
05/22/03 at 09:37:25
[slm] wow!! thats wedding dress is so pretty!  :-* my cousins wedding is comming up in July!!!!   i'm glad you started this thread, i can use the ideas too  ;D [quote]what kinds of stuff do you do at wedding parties in your part of the world?  What does everyone wear, what do you eat, where is everyone (stage, no stage, separate, mixed etc...).[/quote] over here, like a week before the wedding every evening the women have a gathering, everyone dresses up and they sing wedding songs, we usually have a duff with the singing too. [quote]So any ideas for songs?  [/quote] sorry i'm useless at them, hehe some of the songs are really funny, like making rotis (chappatis) for your husband and things go wrong. The mehndi we have usually 2 days before, so if the colour don't come out then you can go over it again. Some of the mendhi patterns are so awesome! everyone gets to put some mendhi on depending on how many mendhi experts are around.  ;) [quote]so if you have any ideas on what to do in the marriage showe[/quote] whats a marriage shower? [wlm]

Re: Ideas 4 the wedding?
Adi28
05/23/03 at 00:42:41
[slm] A wedding shower is usually a party for the soon-to-be bride thrown  by one of her friends...in where she usually gets presents...and does any number of things like play games,sing,dance etc....a wedding shower is usually only something you see in american/american muslim weddings...but i could be wrong..    Adilah

Re: Ideas 4 the wedding?
wardah
05/23/03 at 17:05:09
ohh  :-* that sounds fun...sounds a bit like the evening gathering we have but this ones organised by friends and they play games and dance and give presents - ooo exciting   :)
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