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| Rochester NY: ISNA Regional Conference: June 7-8 |
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| DaSouljah13 |
| 05/12/03 at 16:50:10 |
| ISNA Regional Conference hosted by RIT MSA Program Highlights: An Islamic Play by the youth group, and children?s entertainment program of nasheed and Quran recitation!! BAZAAR!! Islamic books, tapes, video, Islamic clothing, hijab and Food Guest Speakers from around the world! (including Zaid Shakir, Hamza Yusuf, etc) Halal food court for Lunch and Dinner available Matrimonial Connection Visit http://myfinancialmatters.com/URIC/index.html and register! |
| 05/12/03 at 17:13:15 |
| jannah |
| Re: Rochester NY: ISNA Regional Conference: June 7 |
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| ahmer |
| 05/12/03 at 22:08:27 |
| [slm] watch out for exciting info on msa upstate conference to be held alongside this isna conference..:) insha'Allah keep your fingers crossed... [wlm] ahmer |
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| ahmer |
| 05/13/03 at 13:24:04 |
| [center] [url]http://www.msanational.org/upstate2003[/url] [img]http://www.msa-natl.org/conferences/regional/upstate2003/conf.jpg[/img] [/center] |
| 05/13/03 at 13:29:18 |
| ahmer |
| Re: Rochester NY: ISNA Regional Conference: June 7 |
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| jannah |
| 05/13/03 at 23:06:18 |
| [wlm] That's odd you have HY on there when he's scheduled to be in NJ.. what'sup?? |
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| ahmer |
| 05/14/03 at 00:04:45 |
HY will be in NJ on june 7th, and in rochester june 8th insha'Allah |
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| tq |
| 05/14/03 at 08:31:50 |
| Assalamo elikuim And HY is going to be in Philly on June 6 :) Wasalam tq |
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| DaSouljah13 |
| 05/15/03 at 02:34:25 |
| [slm] Please visit our site ( MSA @ RIT) too, we are growing, Alhamdulillah. http://www.rit.edu/~msawww/ Just pm me for any suggestions, comments, etc. Jazakum Allah Kheirun. Wa Salaam, Abbas |
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| ahmer |
| 05/18/03 at 06:09:56 |
| "He is the One Who sends to His servant Manifest Signs, that He may bring you out of darkness into the Light, surely Allah is to you Compassionate, Most Merciful" [57:9] MSA National invites all of you to a wonderful conference to take place in the upstate NY region. Many of our greatest scholars are traveling from far to pass their knowledge on to us. We must make every effort in seeking out oppurtunities such as these where,insha'Allah, we can benefit greatly by increasing our awareness of Allah and learning to be active by the model of the Prophet Muhammad sAllahu'alayhiwasallam. ---------------- Muslim Students: Salvation through acts of faith and mercy ----------------------------------------- MSA Upstate Regional Conference June 7 - 8, 2003 Rochester, NY HOSTED by MSA RIT Co-Sponsored by MSA National Speakers: Hamza Yusuf Zaid Shakir Mokhtar Maghraoui Abdullah Idrees Ali Altaf Husain Muhammad Al-Ya'qoubi Djafer Sebkhaoui Jeewan Chanika Registration: $12 Register Online: http://www.msanational.org/upstate2003 Accommodation: Stay tuned to conference website for discounted hotel rates Questions?: Email: Umar Sheikh (East Zone Rep) ezrepusa@msa-National.org |
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| jannah |
| 06/09/03 at 05:55:21 |
| salam, just came back from this conference.. rochester is mad far!! why on earth they keep picking these out of the way backwoods places to have these things i don't know??! they should have them in albanyia!! the CAPITAL of the state... or if it's 'upstate NorthEast council' what about boston or NY/LI area or at least some other somewhat populated area..?? so they didn't have too many people the first day but it got quite crowded the second day.. probably because 'the big name speakers' were scheduled on sunday...i don't like this concept of coming only for a certain speaker and reserving your seat in the auditorium by leaving some stuff on a seat and then going to pray... like what is that??! i just don't get it.. surprisingly they had quite a few excellent speakers for a little upstate NY conference... including Hamza Yusuf, Zaid Shakir, Abdullah Idrees, Altaf Hussain, Mokhtar Maghraoui, Br Djafar and some newbies I enjoyed as well including Jeewan Chanacka??(what on earth is the bro's name :)) and Sr. Maryam.. it was like a mini baby isna..complete with bazaar (picked up a few nice gifts) two things i didnt like .. the $25 lunch banquet with the speakers.. who on earth can afford that if they're students? so they end up sitting outside not eating while inside the rich folks got to hear some of the speeches and the fact that the program was not finalized with lists of "TBA" and time changes... ppl should always wait to print their programs at the last minute so its as updated as possible.. they should also stick to the program time slots/sessions as much as possible even if they have to replace the speaker.. i thought it odd that they didn't have a sisters section and a brother section for auditorium seating but maybe since it's more a 'family' conference that's difficult... i did like their artsy stuff up on the walls but the walls were unfortunately pretty ugly themselves.. the mehendi table fundraiser was fun ;) wish the bazaar had a bookstore.. registration was very smooth... the play and singing the youth did was an awesome production! the first muslim conference i've seen with EXCELLENT signs everywhere helping u from the minute u turn into the campus...i think the organizers did a good job. may Allah reward them inshaAllah back to the content... there wasn't any one speech that rocked.. (hy got close) but all the speakers made alot of good points.... some highlights: HY - Muslims are worshiping 'islam' and not Allah -- a very interesting point he went into more in the Q&A... that is, Muslims are following the 'form' of islam but ignoring the spirit and very essence of Islam. He used the example of how right after 9/11 his shaykh gave a fatwa that if a woman was afraid for her life and safety she could modify her hijab when going outside to be inconspicuous.ie wear a hat etc.. and then he got all this criticism and flack and ppl saying he told women to take off their hijabs etc etc... and he said that it was just wack... because hijab is to protect women and if it becomes something that harms women then the ruling changes... ie omar ra suspending the theft laws when there was a famine... and ppl were forgetting this. also talked about how a new muslim woman came to him and was asking him about hijab and stuff and he said not to worry about this issue right now and concentrate on her faith and prayer etc and then she started hanging around with the masjid women who were telling her she was doing this and that wrong and she should wear hijab and that she was committing fornication with her husband because he was nonmuslim etc.. (btw he mentioned that there is a minority opinion that women can still stay with their nonmuslim husbands when they convert) and because of people making everything so harsh.. expecting her to be an ANGEL after converting when they themselves hardly are anything close they DROVE her away from islam....and he said aren't there muslims that are fornicating.. committing major sins? better a muslim fornicator than a kaafir.. it's better to invite everyone to islam.. open the doors to americans.. even if they become 'bad muslims' there are already 1 billion 'bad muslims' but we see what happens when they are against islam.. etc Another interesting tangent he discussed was about how Muslims are becoming 'like minded cliques'.. ie we break into groups of muslims that have the same 'point of view and opinions' about certain islamic issues.. and then it becomes that we believe that only WE have the right opinion... hehe he also said that being plump for a woman is ok and that this anorexia of today is demoralizing our girls.. then in Q&A one uncle stood up and said.. 'why are u telling our women to be obese!?'... it was just hillarious.. :) Br Jeewan - He made alot of good points about activism in masjids. I think 7's going to post the noates. Also, we shouldn't debase the value women have behind the scenes and in the home... he's there speaking only because his wife sacrifices at home and looks after his 2 kids etc Zaid Shakir - Subhanallah every time I hear him speak at length I am amazed at how much vision and foresight this man has. He talked about how Muslims are getting so emotional about the 'crusades' and 'missionaries' articles and stories out recently and of course all the iraq post iraq mess and that this is exactly what certain people want. They want to separate us from our supporters and those sympathetic to us. He says we should stop being emotional and start building coalitions with other groups. He made alot of good points about how some ppl are so 'anti american' but there are alot of good american people that think the same way as us.. that see the injustices.. the reason that we don't hear/see them is because certain things are owned by certain people and they have their own agenda.. ie Clear Channel owns half the radio stations in the US and is also owned by GE that makes weapons of war!! and after last week's deregulation TV will end up being the same as well...and we should be smart and work with these people to correct the wrongs to benefit this country.. he said that after living in a muslim country for 7 years america started looking good :) he said his american friend came back from living abroad and was in the supermarket for the first time back and a man said 'oh you only have a couple items go ahead' and his friend was like in shock and just stood there for a few minutes haha after all the fighting and pushing and standing in line getting budged in the middle east!!! Abdullah Idrees - gave a great speech on how we can approach getting closer to Allah and having him answer our duas with 13 different stations. i'll write them out sometime inshallah. Altaf gave some advice about MSA and intentions there's so much more.. i don't think i've been to a conference in about 2 years (except for the one here) and i can really see why i miss them.. they are islamic discourse and activism and a definite motivation and iman booster.. i may just have to go to icna and isna this year ;) |
| 06/24/03 at 06:43:34 |
| jannah |
| Re: Rochester NY: ISNA Regional Conference: June 7 |
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| sk1915 |
| 06/09/03 at 16:48:33 |
| asalaamualaikom, was just searching for any articles i may have missed about the conference here in rochester and came across this thread. i'm wondering who you are since you said the mehndi booth rocked...cuz i was the sister who put the mehndi booth up :) and was there for much of the time (at least intermittently) and wonder if i met you there... anyways, i really, really appreciate your honest appraisals and critiques of the conference. we'll keep them in mind for next year inshallah :) i'd love to hear ahmer and "dasoulja's" (whom i think i can 'figure out' too) critiques, as well as anyone else who was there. but undoubtedly, the rit msa put in a huge huge amount of effort into the conference and i pray they're rewarded beautifully. wasalaam, shaza |
| 06/09/03 at 16:50:56 |
| sk1915 |
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| jannah |
| 06/09/03 at 20:54:16 |
| [wlm] whoaa shaza, i didn't know you were on the board!! i met you sort of... i was wearing a blue swirly design jilbab the first day and a malaysian outfit on the second...me and my sis were mostly hanging out with all the malaysian sisters that came from albany...but the girl that did my mehndi was one of the other one's i think maryam? jazakiAllah khair for all your hard work.. please thank all of the organizers/workers inshaAllah |
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| a_Silver_Rose |
| 06/09/03 at 21:24:24 |
| [slm] wow! Jazak Allahu Kair for that awesome review of the conference... hmm those speakers mentioned all my thoughts! :P did I mention I LOVEEEEE HAMZA YOUSEF.....as a brother ;) and that hes da kewlest speaker. I agree with everything...and it is so true bout the hijab thing, because Allah (swt) tells us in Qur'an to wear it so we wont be annoyed/molested. if we are going to be in a dangerous sitiuation because of it then that ruins the whole purpose... ! Allah (swt) knows best... and I also sooo soo agree with he was talking bout 'new converts staying w/ their nonmuslim husbands' sheeeesh atleast they became muslim, now dont make them runaway!!!!!!! ok lol I wish I could have been there....did I ever tell you how much I would love to live in NY... ok well thanx again your sister |
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| jannah |
| 06/10/03 at 01:10:49 |
| slm, This is from Abdullah Idrees's session. Sorry it's all messed up.. it doesn't do it justice at all.. but seek out the stuff and the hadith below inshallah Seeking help of Allah Maqamaat (Stations) from Ibn al Qaiyyim 1. Tawheed - Oneness of Allah - If u commit shirk all ur sins are void, if la ilaha illlah.. is your last words you go to paradise.. that's how important it is. 2. Ubudiyyah - worshipping Allah - Whenever Allah mentions someone favorably calls them an abd - servant of Allah 3. Taqwa - God consciousness -Allah will help and provide for you if you have Taqwa 4. Dhikr - Remembrance 5. Khawf - Fear in Allah - Umar said "If I have one foot in paradise I fear that I won't be able to bring the other" 6. Rajaa - Hope in Allah 7. Istighfar - Seeking forgiveness - sayyid al istighfar.. even if we only acknowledge the sins we commit, Allah forgives us! 8. Ridaa - Allahs pleasure 9. Sabr - Patience If you have patience u won't be accountable for anything, it wipes out your account like a blank sheet 10. Tawakkul - 65:23 - rely upon Allah He does/knows everything 11.Yakeen - Certainty 12. Shukr - should try to be more grateful to Allah.. all the worship in our life cannot even be thankful enough for the one blessing of sight... 13. Ihsan - What is the reward of good, except good 14. Sidq - Truthfullness? 15. Dua - Sincere dua 3 Destroyers: 1. Miserlieness in anything 2. Desires 3. Obsession with who you are/arrogance 3 Saviors 1. Fearing Allah in private and public 2. Being content with whatever Allah gives 3. Doing justice to ppl 3 Expiators 1. Remaining in wudu in all times even in hardship 2. Programming yourself with prayer (if prayer is on your mind Allah is w/u) 3. Going to anything in jamaa' 3 Elevators 1. Saying salaam (your sins drop) 2. Feeding people 3. Prayer at night when everyone is asleep |
| Re: Rochester NY: ISNA Regional Conference: June 7 |
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| DaSouljah13 |
| 06/24/03 at 02:57:44 |
| [slm], I know this might be a little late but I would like to thank everyone for joining us on behalf of the RIT MSA :). This was the first time we hosted MSA/ISNA Conference at RIT but Alhamdulillah it went well. Insha'Allah next year it'll be better. I don't think I met any of the Albany people.. (except for Brother Osamah? - who grad.). Anyway, this fall we are trying to do get another conference (not isna or msa) but a conference pertaining to women rights, and roles (like a 2 day conference). Any feedback and suggestions is appreciate it. You can pm me or email me (ammar@1ummah.org), btw.. for all who don't know, I'm the President (half of you might know my brother - he was on the MSA Albany board). Jazakum Allah Kheirun.. Wa Salaam, Ammar Abbas N. |
| 06/24/03 at 03:02:26 |
| DaSouljah13 |
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| jannah |
| 06/24/03 at 06:46:14 |
| [wlm] Who's your bro??? a woman's rights conference?? sounds cool count us in inshallah.. btw we found out that if you go 90 mph on I-90 u can get to rochester in 2 1/2 hours from albany!!!!! (btw don't try it ;)) |
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| DaSouljah13 |
| 06/24/03 at 09:47:08 |
| Ali Naqvi.. I think he was spokeperson (year or 2 ago)? Yea inshaAllah it'll be a good event. 2 and half hours is good... I live 6 and half hours away :) Wa Salaam, Abbas |
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| se7en |
| 06/26/03 at 19:45:33 |
| as salaamu alaykum wa rahmatullah, jazakum Allahu khayran to all the organizers for putting up a great conference :-X the art work was def a nice touch :) masha'Allah, bro Jeewan was my fave new speaker :) Insha'Allah I'll post up some notes I took from one of his talks when I get some time. wasalaamu alaykum wa rahmatullah |
| 06/26/03 at 19:46:17 |
| se7en |
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