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| The Moon Split! |
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| A_Stranger |
| 05/19/03 at 07:49:07 |
| [u][size=3]Splitting of the Moon[/u][/size] In a TV interview with the Egyptian Geologist Dr. Zaghloul Annajar, the anchor asked him about the verse: [color=Green]"The Hour has drawn near, and the moon has been cleft asunder (the people of Makkah requested Prophet Muhammad [saw] to show them a miracle, so he showed them the splitting of the moon)."[/color] [i](Quran 54:1)[/i] whether it contains any Quranic scientific astounding facts? Dr. Zaghloul answered saying that he has a story to tell about this verse. He started explaining that at a time he delivered a lecture at Cardiff University in the West of Britain. The attendees included both Muslims and non-Muslims. A vital dialogue was taking place around scientific facts included in the glorious Quran. During the course of the lecture, a Muslim young man stood asking me, Sir do you see in the Saying of Al Haq Tabarak wa Ta`ala (Allah the Truth may He be Exalted) - and he referred to the above mentioned verse - any indication to the scientific facts included in the Quran? Dr. Najjar answered: No because scientific astounding discoveries are interpreted through science whereas a miracle is something supernatural, which may not be interpreted through the usual. The splitting of the moon is a miracle, which happened to Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) in order to prove his prophecy. Tangible miracles are only a testimony of truth for those who witnessed it. It is only that the incident was mentioned in Quran and Prophet's Sunnah that made us believe other wise we Muslims of this era would have never believed in it. In addition that we know for sure that Allah is most capable of anything. At that point Dr. Zaghloul narrated the story of moon splitting as included in Sunnah books. He said, Sunnah books tell that five years before the immigration of Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) from Mecca to Madinah, a group of people from the tribe of Quraish came challenging him saying: Oh Mohammed if you were really a Prophet and a Messenger bring to us a miracle to establish this fact. So he asked them what do you want? They said in an effort to complicate matters for him: split the moon for us. The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) stood supplicating to Allah to support him and grant him victory in this hard situation. Allah may He be Exalted inspired him to sign towards the moon with his finger. Immediately, the moon cleft into two parts standing far from each other for several hours then cling back together. The pagans started claiming: Oh Mohammed (PBUH) practiced witchcraft on us. At this point some of the wise men explained that magic would only affect the attendees, whereas it can not maintain influence on everybody in general. They waited for travellers who were coming back from their journeys. The pagans hurried up to the borders of Mecca in anticipation to meet the travellers. When the first arrivals appeared, they asked them did you see anything extraordinary happened to the moon? The travellers answered yes on the night (X), we saw the moon splitting into two parts which remained asunder for sometime then reattached. Upon this statement, a number of the group believed while the rest remained pagans. Therefore, the verse explains [color=Green]"The Hour has drawn near, and the moon has been cleft asunder (the people of Makkah requested Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) to show them a miracle, so he showed them the splitting of the moon). And if they see a sign, they turn away, and say: This is continuous magic. *They belied (the Verses of Allah - this Quran), and followed their own lusts. And every matter will be settled (according to the kind of deeds: good deeds will take their doers to Paradise, and similarly evil deeds will take their doers to Hell)."[/color] (Quran 54:1-3) until the end of the verses which were revealed in this regard. Dr. Najjar continued that at this point a British Muslim young man introduced himself as Daoud Moussa Peetcock head of the British Islamic Party. He carried on saying "Sir, if you allow me I would like to add on this issue?" I said "please do." He explained saying: At the time when I was searching in religions (before he embraced Islam), a Muslim student gave me as a present the translation of the meaning of Quran. I thanked him and took it home. The first Surah (verse) I came across when I opened the book, it was Chapter of the Moon I read "has drawn near, and the moon has been cleft asunder". I said to myself, is this statement logical? Is it possible for the moon to split and then reattach what kind of power may cause this? The man explained that this verse made me reluctant to continue reading. I became busy with my life, yet Allah of course Knows how sincere I was about finding the truth. So one day Allah made me sit to watch TV. It was a talk show between a British commentator and three American astronautics specialists. The show host was blaming the scientists for spending thriftily over space trips at a time when earth is suffering hunger, poverty, diseases and backwardness. He was telling them, it would have been more feasible to allocate this kind of money for reconstruction of earth. To this argument, the three men answered defending their position that such technology is widely applied in many wakes of life such as medicine, industry and agriculture. They added that the money is never wasted but it rather supported the development of highly advanced technology. During their dialogue, they mentioned the trip in which a man landed on the moon surface as it consumes the largest cost which comes to more than US $100,000,000,000. The British TV anchor screamed saying what kind of thrift is this? A hundred thousand million dollars just to plant the American flag on the moon surface? They answered no, the objective was not to plant the American flag but rather to study the interior composition of the moon. We actually came to a finding that would cost us double folds of this amount for people to believe and yet they will never believe. The show host inquired what is this fact? They replied: One day this moon was split and then reattached. The show host again probed: how did you realize that? The scientists responded about finding a belt of transformed rocks cutting the moon from its surface to core and then to the surface again. The stated saying: we consulted with earth scientists and geologists who explained that such phenomenon would never occur unless this moon one-day split and then reattached. The British Muslim man said: I jumped out of my chair saying Allah (S&T) forced the Americans to spend more than a hundred million dollars to prove to Muslims a miracle that took place 1400 years ago for Mohammed (PBUH)?? This religion must be the truth. He added: I went back to the Quran and recited Surah Al Qamar, which was my gate for accepting Islam. |
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| eleanor |
| 05/20/03 at 07:52:11 |
| [slm] :o this is amazing news, but I thought the general opinion is that the moon landing never took place??? |
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| asap |
| 05/21/03 at 04:55:25 |
| [slm] All! Bro A_Stranger any reference to the three scientists, the anchor, the tv show ??? On the face it sounds bogus. [quote]The scientists responded about finding a belt of transformed rocks cutting the moon from its surface to core and then to the surface again. [/quote] Who said this and when ? As for the moon cleft asunder to the Makkan Qureish, Here is a better explanation.[url]http://www.islamanswers.net/Prophet/moon.htm[/url] And a beautiful moon here :-X [url]http://www.seds.org/billa/pics/Luna2.jpg[/url] Sister Eleanor, how do you think that that is a common view. I think its quite opposite. Most of the people on the earth agree that moon landing was real. Well, if you personally disagree that's quite another thing. Well, I just found it out from http://groups.yahoo.com/group/muslimconverts/message/361 [quote] One lessons we Muslims MUST LEARN from above is that we do not compromise our religion or try to give a made up version of islam in order to convert poeple to Islam. It is Allah who guides poeple to Islam. NoT US. NO one can convert ANYONE to Islam. Accept Allah. EVen The Prophet (peace be upon him) prayed to Allah to make Umar Muslim. If the Prophet saw could convert Him. He (peace be upon him) would have not have ask Allah. So how can moderists Islamists think they can convert poeple to Islam by lieing? It is not aloud to lie about Islam. Add bits to it and remove bits from it to make it pleasing to the disbelievers. This action in itself suggests that those poeple who do this do not know Islam. And Infact, their action is an action of someone thinking he is superior than Allah and His Messenger and that Allah Deen is not perfect and they are to perfect it. The whole point of Islam is that Allah is the Creator and nothing is comparable unto him. If a kaffir find something unacceptable. Then it is Between Him and Allah. If Allah chooses He will guide him and If allah does not guide him no one can. Or have you greater power than Allah? Any competion with Allah is leads to kafr no matter how many Shadadah one says or how many prays one performs. How can one try to comepete with Allah and say he or she is a Muslim? The only Sin Allah does not forgive is Shirk. Seting up rivals with Allah . They dot have to be stones they can be just belief . Such as someone believing he has knows better than Allah or His way is better than Allahs. So why become a kaffir to save a kaffir from hell especailly when you cant convert him. Hell is not like some fire in this world. And with regarding so Major Shirk one stays in there in agony, and he or she cant die so that the punishment would end. Here at least at least we only have to take the punishment for some short time and then die. But there the punishment and torture doesnt end for those who died in disbelief. Many times if you see a revert doing soemthing that is not Islamic or haveing a vew that it totally against Islam is a RESULT OF MODERNIST ISLAMIC GROUPS GIVING THE WRONG INFORMATION TO THEM. Sometimes These Modernists are actually Munafics, other times they just follow their wims and desires and wish not to look odd ones out and want others to do the same. Other times they are trying to hard to convert non-muslims that they will even add lies or subtact certain things that are part of islam or aloud in Islam. Or they will twist things wrong. Such as the case of polgny. Were a Muslims male can have up to 4 wives. The Modernist will add lies like oh its only allowed in war time and whne women are too many. But thats a lie. There is no such conditions. Only condition is that one should not marry if he cant deal eqally with all his wife in terms of spending equal amounst of money and time with each one. As far as love goes he is not responsible for what his heart feels for each one. A Muslims parent has to deal eqally with all his /her children. he /she cant help if his/her heart feels more love for one child than the otehr. Should in that case a pareson only have one child and then have vasectomy ? TO END. NO MUSLIM SCHOLAR OR ORDINARY MUSLIM HAS THE WRITE TO LIE ABOUT ALLAH'S DEEN. If you want to do dawah then tell the truth. You cant say this is the truth and then lie about the truth. It only makes the Islamic Dawah more difficult. first we have to convince poeple that Islam is the truth and then try and convince Muslims what they are following is not Islam. ITS JUST LEADS TO A BIG HEADACHE FOR THE SINCERE DIAS AND FOR THE MUSLIMS and even the non- muslims. I have heard of several new Muslims especailly . They keep saying we are geting conflicting views. One says this is haram and the other says this is Halal and they dont have the knowledge to distinguish which one is telling the truth. This is what the enemies of Islam want us to think and thats why they are proping up these groups and infact it become a cancer which spreads like fire. You will see them always on the Tv. Blair was so fond of one of these groups. Thats why you will find the disbelievers now say real is Islam is this and that . And Its the Quran and sunnah Islam which they call the fundamentalist Islam because they know if they can divert you from the Prophet's Islam to the modern versions they will have completed part of their mission of trying to lead you astray. AbuUbaida Owner [/quote] |
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| theOriginal |
| 05/21/03 at 05:21:11 |
| [slm] kinda harsh, bro asap. How and when someone is led to Islam is not our business. I doubt that bro was lying about his encounter with that television program. Furthermore, I doubt that the bro relating the story was lying about his encounter with the bro who had the encounter with the TV program. You know? Wasalaam. |
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| asap |
| 05/21/03 at 06:21:01 |
| [slm] My mistake always! :( My apologies to bro A_Stranger and sis Eleanor if they took it personally. My point was that as Muslims we are responsible for what we say and what we convey of others. And therefore, it becomes imperative of us to verify the truthfulness of such an amazing news as sis Eleanor rightly said. And, the information was tactfully lacking the very reference that was the core of the story, the scientists. And I didnt mean it as a fabrication on the part of bro/sis on the board but rather it's going all over the web, verbatim. Plus the writing of bro AbuUbaida was toward those who fabricate such stories. I did not modify it. I would have chosen mild words to descibe the same feelings without going into 4 wives etc which was digression i guess. And, thanks sister JusOne for pointing it out. wa-salam asap. |
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| eleanor |
| 05/21/03 at 07:02:39 |
| [slm] nooo.. i was not insulted in the least.. just wanting to hear the opinions of others. As for the moon landing, I don't know if it happened or not. Put it this way - up to about 2 years ago i accepted it unquestioningly, but now having had my eyes opened to the many deceits and cover ups in this world, I am not going to just accept things. The above article included. What I do accept is the word of the Qur'an. Alhamdulillah. :) It says there that the moon split, so be it. Basta. |
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| humble_muslim |
| 05/21/03 at 09:19:54 |
| AA Well I know that the British man, Daud Musa Pidcock, does exist, and last time I checked, he was the head of the Muslim Party in Britain. Does anyone from the UK know him personally, and could get more info about this ? |
| NS |
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| Fozia |
| 06/08/03 at 11:04:20 |
| [slm] He's head of the Islamic party, you could most probably email him whatever question you have or perhaps invite him on board??????? Wasalaam |
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