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missy
05/19/03 at 23:56:29
I've been praying a lot for God to show me the right path, and I've been having some strange dreams. Does anyone else think it may be a sign? I had a dream this morning that I was surrounded by muslim women, and they were trying to give me clothes, and they were kind of pushing me towards some where, I don't know where, and telling me to hurry and get ready for the morning prayer, to wake up or I'd be late and miss it. Then I did wake up, and it was sometime a little after 5, and then I fell asleep again. The dream came back, and they kept telling me to wake up, to not be late and I would be if I didn't wake up. When I woke up, I felt so much like praying, so I did. Has anyone else had things like this happen while they were still searching? Dreams or maybe other signs to try to point you in the right direction?  
After reading and learning about Islam over the past couple of months, I really do feel that it's the right way. But, I think I'm just scared in a way. I mean, this isn't a simple thing, you know?  ;)  Sometimes, I think it should be, but, then, I think no, you should have to work for it, be worthy of it. Then it'll be something special. Anyways, I just wanted to share and maybe get some insight from other people too.
Re: Dreams
Nomi
05/20/03 at 06:56:27
Hello there, missy

well some dreams do mean something and the one that you had, man, i must say it sure was interesting and yes i very much believe that it is a sign :). I dont have many dreams but a couple of them that i had in the past really came true in real life, not literally but the interpretation that a religious scholar told me sure came real !

Sometimes a dream comes in real as is, yours in mashAllah very encouraging, good luck to you :)

[quote]
Sometimes, I think it should be, but, then, I think no, you should have to work for it, be worthy of it.
[/quote]

I agree to this but there is another thing that just brushed my mind i.e. (well this is not intended to scare you, i'm just sharing) my grandfather died at the age of 105 but 2 of my close friends died at the age of 25-26 respectively !!, we all believe that death can come unto us anytime, so take on your but dont take too long !.

may Allah help you in life (this one and the infinite one too), ameen
Asim Zafar
Re: Dreams
Nistar
05/20/03 at 08:48:13
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Hi Missy!  Great dream!!!  As we learned at the ISNA conference this weekend ;) , dreams show you the state of your nuffs (inner self and motivations).

When I was debating putting on hijab, I used to have several dreams with Muslim women surrounding me -- going to tea or dinner -- and then having them lend me scarves to put on.

And when I was still seeking (oh...about 4 years now), I once had a dream where a friend of mine was sitting on a mountain.  They were scrambling with a piece of paper and a pen.  When my dream-voice asked what they were doing, my friend said, "I'm writing down how much I love you -- but I'm trying to do it before God tells you."  Then I felt a strong sense of Peace and Love -- and I didn't quite hear a voice, but perhaps a mssage into my heart that said, "Impossible.  You cannot have a race with Me -- and you can never love her as much as I love her."

Subhan'Allah wa ta'ala.  


In terms of being worthy or not -- think of it this way:  God has already guided you -- He's already given you his "peace of reasurrance" (His sakina) -- for "with hardship, comes ease."  Faith is always something to be worked at, and is something that can only make you a better person.  And your personal connection with God, is definately something special!

Take care!
Wth peace,
Nistar.
Re: Dreams
Maliha
05/20/03 at 09:01:12
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Subhana Allah that's really deep Missy :)
I have lotsa dreams *every* night, so it's hard to figure out what is meaningful or not. I guess it says a lot about my nafs' distractions ::) But i have a couple significant ones, throughout my journey that kinda pointed out something i was grappling with.
The *most* beautiful dream I had was sitting on a hillside, overlooking the greenest, prettiest meadow. I was surrounded by sooo many little children, scrambling on my lap, around me, all over  :-*  Then I pointed to the sky and was showing them this *awesome* bright star, it was just soo vibrant and mesmerizing, all the kids went "wow"...
That was it. I don't know why this dream stayed with me, but what made me so beautiful was the profound sense of elation I had in the dream and a descending peaceful feeling after I woke up...
The struggle to be a better person, "worthy" of ALlah's Immense Blessings and Love, is a lifelong one my dear sis. Don't let that fear stop you from coming closer to Him. Islam is about accepting in your heart that Allah is indeed the only One worthy of Worship and Submission and that Muhammad  [saw] is indeed His Servant and Messenger. If you truly believe this in your heart, the onus is on you to testify to this. The struggle to shape your life in a way that is Most Pleasing to Him is something that will continue being a part of your life.
The urging of the sisters in the dream, could be just telling you to move to the next level of your search and that is to submit to the Creator.
May Allah continue to guide you and shower you with His Forgiveness and Mercy (Amin).
Sis,
Maliha :-)
[wlm]
Re: Dreams
humble_muslim
05/20/03 at 10:00:57
Hi Missy,

Boy, this rang a bell with me! I have the weirdest dreams which could never possibly make any sense or have any meaning ... BUT, when I was 21 (I was born a muslim), I went to this Islamic conference. For several days afterwards, I started having SENSIBLE dreams, all about (if I remember) me being a better muslim than I had been before. Was THAT a sign? Absoultely! My whole life changed during that period, I started practicing Islam more. SO IHMO, and based on my own experience, THIS IS A SIGN.  Of course, God knows best.  So what are you waiting for ? Stpe down to your local mosque, take the shahadah, and tell us all about it.  We'll have an on-line celebration for you!
NS
Re: Dreams
sofia
05/20/03 at 17:40:27
Peace, Missy - :)

Your dream sounds reeeeally familiar -- like a lot of conversion stories I've heard or been told of.
A friend of a friend kept having a recurring dream in which she heard someone calling out the adhaan (call to prayer). She wasn't Muslim at the time, lived in the states and had never visited a masjid. She didn't know what it was until after she had become a Muslim. Coulda been that she had heard it before at some point but just didn't know what it was meant for. Or maybe not. Allahu A'lim/God knows best.

Other accounts that I've heard are somewhat similar: usually, the person feels like they're being called/moved towards something, even if they don't know what it is yet. SubhanAllah/God is above all imperfections. Maybe some of the converts/reverts on this board can share their experiences with you. I'm not sure if this feeling lasts forever, so I guess I'd advocate taking advantage of these signs. You answered the call to pray, which is huge. Now you just need to get to where your heart is already taking you.

Please read up and ask as many questions as you need to. If you already believe that there is only One God, and that Muhammad, Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Noah, etc (peace be upon them all) are His messengers, don't delay. Not to say you should jump into anything blindly, keep learning, too. The first verse of the Qur'aan that was revealed was: "Read, in the name of your Lord, Who created." Anyone who sincerely asks God for being shown the right way, won't be turned down; ie, He won't show you the wrong way. And by the way, some of the most messed up individuals (which I'm sure you're not one of) ended up being great people after their conversion. Like Malcolm X. I don't have enough fingers to count how many people became Muslims at pretty "low" times in their lives, only to become better Muslims than most born-Muslims, mashaa'Allah. So no need to wait to feel "worthy." You are!

May God make it easy for you, aameen.
Here's a common prayer that Muslims make, for guidance and support.

[u] [color=green]Al-Fatihah (The Opening), Chapter 1 of the Qur'aan:[/u]

1. In the name of God, the Most-Compassionate, Most-Merciful
2. All praise be to God, the Lord of the Worlds
3. The Most-Compassionate, Most-Merciful
4. Master/Owner of the Day of Recompense
5. To You we worship, and to You we ask for help.
6. Guide us to the straight way.
7. The way of those upon whom You have bestowed Your grace, and not of those who have earned Your wrath or have gone astray. [/color]
05/20/03 at 17:49:07
sofia
Re: Dreams
Emerald
05/20/03 at 23:40:33
As-salaam aleikum
Missy - I think your dream does mean something- something wonderful. What proves that, is that you said you woke up at 5 - which is around the time of the Fajr prayer. It's the time when all the gates of heaven are open and when Allah (swt) answers prayers.
I used to have this obsession about dream interpretation and read and asked alot about it because I had seen quite a few interesting dreams in the past. One in particular reminded me of yours. I was asleep and I heard my brother's voice calling me to get up. My senses knew for a fact that there was a presence at the edge of my bed which frightened me bigtime! His voice was also way too real - not the fuzzy dream type of talk. So I felt worried because why would my brother wake me up? Something serious must have happened to a family member I subconciously thought. So I woke up and about a few minutes later I heard my father make the athan. I knew right then and there that it was an angel that was sent to wake me up for prayer. ( At the time I was slacking in salat wa-astaghfir-Allah)
Anyway, when a person has a ruqya it's so obvious. You feel it. Something within you KNOWS it's real and that it means something because it's clear and to the point. Also, from what I was told a ruqya happens just before fajr time. Another thing I was told was that the greater the heart is pure the more likely a person is going to see ruqyas, wa-Allahu a3lam.
Missy, if both your heart and mind are leading you towards the same thing, it must be the right thing for you. I feel this dream was given to you as a comfort and a reassurance. May Allah (swt) give you strength and make you one of the Saliheen.
Re: Dreams
Taalibatul_ilm
05/21/03 at 01:51:16
[quote Anyway, when a person has a ruqya it's so obvious. [/quote]


[slm] I believe you mean ru'yaa.
Ruqya is when we are treated by the Qur'an and dua' from the sunnah.  :)
Re: Dreams
panjul
05/21/03 at 02:24:00
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The dream came back, and they kept telling me to wake up, to not be late and I would be if I didn't wake up. When I woke up, I felt so much like praying, so I did. Has anyone else had things like this happen while they were still searching? Dreams or maybe other signs to try to point you in the right direction?

I don't dream often, but when i dream, alhamdulillah, most of my dreams are true and come to light within a short period of time.

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)G=(4Q(P>⒊(@bs well share this one that I had a few weeks ago.

A sister that I know from this board had died  :(  and I was in my apartment and she appeared and visited me. I couldn't believe that she was there and reached out to touch her face and see if she was real. Well she was. I could feel her as though she was a living breathing person.
I was really confused and was asking how this could be. She just kept telling me "it all adds up - it all adds up". I knew from this she meant that all the little good deeds that we do all add up and help us to reach a higher state after death. A state of life where we can transcend time and boundaries that we have in this world.
Then my husband was telling me "it's too late for you, you don't have enough time left... If only i had known in time i would have...."
and then I woke up.

Well when I woke up I felt weird and scared because I knew that we have to do everything we can in this life to get ready for the next. I was happy that my sister had achieved a high state after death but knew that I could never reach that high. (She is a born muslim).

I don't know if my dream was a prediction or anything because that has never happened to me before. I also don't know if that is true - that dead people can come back and visit living ones if they have reached a high enough level in jannah...

As for you missy, it has been said before, if you are ready to declare Shahada then do it asap because we don't know when we are going to die.

Declare your beliefs first and work on the rest afterwards. You don't have to do everything from Day One, but it is important to die Muslim...
Re: Dreams
missy
05/22/03 at 12:06:12
Thank you everyone for the replies and advice about my dream. I told my boyfriend about it and he got goosebumps when I told him what time it was when I woke up the first time. He told me they might have been angels. He says to give it a little more time and to learn a little more before I make any decisions because it's a very important one that will change my life, and then he added, just don't take too long. But I know I'm ready now.  And like other people on this bored have said, you never know when you're going to die.
Do you have to take the shahadah in a mosque? And do you have to say it in arabic? I've never been to a mosque and wouldn't know what to do. I would just be really nervous about going there.
Re: Dreams
Maliha
05/22/03 at 13:03:34
[quote author=eleanor link=board=lighthouse;num=1053399389;start=0#9 date=05/21/03 at 07:09:55] [slm]
Well when I woke up I felt weird and scared because I knew that we have to do everything we can in this life to get ready for the next. I was happy that my sister had achieved a high state after death but knew that I could never reach that high. (She is a born muslim).

...[/quote]
[slm]
Hmmm..interesting dream, but this part really stood out for me. Why would you think you can't get to a "higher state" than a "born" Muslim?
Subhana Allah I know many recent reverts thap put all of us to shame with their enthusiastic dedication, love for ilm, and the ability to completely discard everything cultural and stick to what's pure and beautiful in the deen.
Weren't most of the Sahabi "reverts"? Look at Omar (RA) he started out wanting to murder the Rasul  [saw], and ended up becoming such a strong believer that the Shaytaan himself would run away from him!
*sigh*
According to Ibn Taimiyya (sp), he said that everyone is born twice. The day they are actually born, and the day they awaken spiritually into the realm of Islam. Even so called "born" Muslims, sometimes drift through the religion without grasping the essential spirit of the deen. How else do we describe the state we are in? Some "born" Muslims come back into Islam in a way not so different from reverting. Some are fortunate enough to have a gradual awakening throughout their Journey to Allah.
But that's just it, we are all trekking the same path, and some shoot like lightning, others are running, and others are trudging slower. We are all rising at our own paces, and it's really upto our Mujahadah and Mercy of Allah, to get us to the highest level we can achieve.
Ignore me, if I misread that part :P
Sis,
Maliha :-)
[wlm]
Re: Dreams
Abu_Hamza
05/23/03 at 00:54:14
[slm]

Hello missy,

[quote author=missy link=board=lighthouse;num=1053399389;start=0#10 date=05/22/03 at 12:06:12]
Do you have to take the shahadah in a mosque? And do you have to say it in arabic? I've never been to a mosque and wouldn't know what to do. I would just be really nervous about going there. [/quote]

You do not *have* to take the shahadah in a mosque. However, it's a frequent practice among Muslims to have the new Muslim say the shahadah in the mosque in front of people to introduce the new Muslim to the rest of the community, and also because seeing someone say the shahadah for the first time has such an awesome affect on the spirit of the Muslims.

So although it would be nice if you did it publicly in a Mosque, it's not required of you. If you can talk to the imam (the person who leads the prayers/worship) of your local mosque, and declare the shahadah in front of him, that would be great, but even that is not required. It would be nice though because then he would know there's a new Muslim in town and he'd be there to help you out whenever you need it.

As to whether it should be said in Arabic or not, it's preferred that when you declare your shahadah you first say it in Arabic and then in your native language (English).

Missy, if you think you are ready, you can begin by declaring your shahadah right here by typing it! And then, whenever you get a chance, you can approach your imam or your Mosque or whatever. But it's all totally up to you.


This is the shahadah in Arabic:

[i]Ash hadu alla ilaha illa Allah, wa
Ash hadu anna Muhammadar Rasool Allah[/i]


And here it is in English:

[i]I testify that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah, and
I testify that Muhammad is the final Messenger of Allah[/i]


I pray that Allah give you the best missy, and continue to guide you in the future as He has guided you so far. May He include you among His righteous servants, among those whom He is well pleased with, and those who will attain the pleasure of being with Him in the afterlife!

Take care.
05/23/03 at 00:55:21
Abu_Hamza
Re: Dreams
jaihoon
05/23/03 at 00:58:25
 ??? Why do i get no dreams at all?  :'(
Re: Dreams
bhaloo
05/23/03 at 01:11:24
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[quote author=Mystic link=board=lighthouse;num=1053399389;start=0#11 date=05/22/03 at 13:03:34]
Hmmm..interesting dream, but this part really stood out for me. Why would you think you can't get to a "higher state" than a "born" Muslim?
Subhana Allah I know many recent reverts that put all of us to shame with their enthusiastic dedication, love for ilm, and the ability to completely discard everything cultural and stick to what's pure and beautiful in the deen.
[/quote]

Very true.  Not to mention when they become Muslims they start fresh without any sins.  Whereas those of us that were born Muslims have to deal with all those years of sins.   :(

Missy maybe you could call the mosque and ask if there are some sisters there in the community to help you.  I think it would be great and really help you out.  Of course we'll be here to help you out whenever you need it.  :)
Re: Dreams
sunset
05/23/03 at 01:59:01
[slm]

i had a wonderful dream many many years ago... i was on a plane and flight was to makkah...it was almost landing time and i could see the land and buildings through the window..but before the plane could land, i woke up.. strange thing is i was still schooling then and hajj wasnt in my mind at all...

what so special about this dream is it became true, alhamdulillah :) my flight finally landed early this year ...not in makkah of course since makkah has no airport but in madina ;) to make it more special... it was my birthday one day after my arrival.... and that was the best gift i could ever asked for this year..

[wlm] :-)


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