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Maliha
05/20/03 at 08:41:52
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[i]This should provide some insight into the motives behind the May 13 bombing attacks in Saudi Arabia. I think before we jump to conclusions and join the bandwagon of "terrorism" denunciation, let's look at the history and the targets to see what might motivate some people to carry these extreme attacks.[/i]

Mercenaries Inc.: How a U.S. Company Props Up the House of Saud  
by William D. Hartung
 

We were shocked and saddened to hear about the attacks in Saudi Arabia and the deaths of at least 91 people there, including ten Americans.

But the fact that one of the targets was a U.S. private military corporation called Vinnell raises serious questions about the role of "executive mercenaries," and corporations who profit from war and instability. This is the second time in eight years that Vinnell's operations in Saudi Arabia have been the target of a terrorist attack. In 1995 a car bomb blasted through an Army training program Vinnell was involved with. The following year, Bill Hartung, a Senior Fellow at the World Policy Institute wrote this article for the Progressive magazine.

The sanitized version of American foreign policy asserts that the United States is hard at work promoting democratic values around the world in the face of attacks from totalitarian ideologies ranging from communism during the Cold War to Islamic fundamentalism today. Every once in a while an incident occurs that contradicts this reassuring rhetoric by revealing the secret underside of American policy, which is far more concerned with propping up pliable regimes that serve the interests of U.S. multinational corporations than it is with any meaningful notion of democracy. The November 13, 1995 bombing of the Saudi Arabian National Guard (SANG) headquarters and an adjacent building housing a U.S. military training mission is one such incident.

President Clinton tried to paint the bombing as just another senseless act of terrorism perpetrated by armed Islamic extremists, but the target was chosen much too carefully to support that simple explanation. The Saudi National Guard is a 55,000 man military force whose main job is to protect the Saudi monarchy from its own people, using arms from the United States and training supplied by roughly 750 retired U.S. military and intelligence personnel employed by the Vinnell Corporation of Fairfax, Virginia. A January 1996 article in Jane's Defence Weekly describes the SANG as "a kind of Praetorian Guard for the House of Saud, the royal family's defence of last resort against internal opposition." The November bombing -- which killed five Americans and wounded thirty more -- was certainly brutal, but it was far from senseless. As a retired American military officer familiar with Vinnell's operations put it,

"I don't think it was an accident that it was that office that got bombed. If you wanted to make a political statement about the Saudi regime you'd single out the National Guard, and if you wanted to make a statement about American involvement you'd pick the only American contractor involved in training the guard: Vinnell."

The story of how an obscure American company ended up becoming the Saudi monarchy's personal protection service is a case study in how the United States government has come to rely on unaccountable private companies and unrepresentative foreign governments to do its dirty work on the world stage, short-circuiting democracy at home and abroad in the process. In the wake of the Iran/contra scandal and the end of the Cold War, many observers of U.S. foreign policy have assumed that this penchant for covert policymaking has been put aside, but Vinnell's role in Saudi Arabia puts the lie to that comforting assumption.

To borrow a phrase from one of Vinnell's former presidents, the company didn't start out as a "spook outfit" when it was founded in 1931 as a small Los Angeles area construction company. The firm's early growth was tied to contracts for the LA freeway system. Indeed, some of Vinnell's best known projects are decidedly civilian in character, including work on the Grand Coulee Dam and the construction of LA's Dodger Stadium (Brooklyn Dodger fans take note). But by the end of World War II, the company was already dabbling in military and intelligence work. Vinnell's first overseas contract involved shipping supplies to Chinese Nationalist Chiang Kai-shek as part of his futile attempt to beat back the revolutionary forces of Mao Tse-Tung. The company soon embarked on a booming military construction business in Asia, building military airfields in Okinawa, Taiwan, Thailand, South Vietnam, and Pakistan.

Vinnell's Asian adventures served as a springboard for its emergence as a global company that was more than willing to do a little intelligence work on the side if the opportunity presented itself. In his memoir Ropes of Sand, former CIA operative Wilbur Crane Eveland describes how he used his Vinnell connection as a cover during his tours of duty in Africa and the Middle East in the early 1960s, noting that company founder Albert Vinnell expressed his willingness to help the agency do whatever it needed to do (for a fee, of course). Eveland returned the favor by negotiating contracts for Vinnell to do construction services on oil fields in Iran and Libya, bribing the appropriate officials along the way.

Vinnell's big break in the military/intelligence field came during the American intervention in Vietnam, when the company won hundreds of millions of dollars of business doing everything from building military bases to repairing armored personnel carriers to running military warehouses. At the peak of its involvement Vinnell had 5,000 employees in Vietnam, but not all of them were engaged in straightforward military operations. Several retired Army and Marine officers familiar with Vinnell's work in Vietnam have indicated that the company ran several "black" (secret) programs. In a March 1975 interview with the Village Voice, a Pentagon official described Vinnell as "our own little mercenary army in Vietnam" and asserted that "we used them to do things we either didn't have the manpower to do ourselves, or because of legal problems." The official indicated that one of Vinnell's jobs was as "rear security forces," assigned to "clean up" U.S. military bases in Vietnam during the U.S. withdrawal: "how they 'cleaned up' was pretty much up to them.... If we figured an area was certain to be overrun by the VC [Viet Cong].... they were to demolish everything and anything."

The last thing that Vinnell nearly demolished in Vietnam was its own financial viability. The company had apparently poured all of its resources into the war effort, and it had very little to fall back on when the war ended. Vinnell posted losses every year from 1970 through 1974, and in January 1975 the company filed a reorganization plan with the California Department of Corporations in which it proposed to sell voting control in the company to a Lebanese investor for the modest sum of $500,000. With these dismal financial figures looming in the background, the firm's February 1975 contract for $77 million to train the Saudi National Guard brought Vinnell back from the brink of bankruptcy.

The Vinnell/Saudi training deal drew considerable fire, both in the press and on Capitol Hill. On February 9, 1975 Peter Arnett filed a piece for the Associated Press that raised questions about the propriety of a private U.S. company serving as a hired protection service for an undemocratic regime. When Maas asked one of Vinnell's men in Riyadh whether he viewed himself as a mercenary, the question drew a classic bureaucratic response: "We are not mercenaries because we are not pulling the triggers. We train people to pull the triggers. Maybe that makes us executive mercenaries."

This setup was a bit too blatant even for the more hawkish members of Congress. Senators Henry ("the Senator from Boeing") Jackson and Armed Services Committee Chairman John Stennis of Mississippi demanded hearings on the contract, which Jackson purported to find "completely baffling." Meanwhile, a reform-minded young Congressman from Wisconsin named Les Aspin aired charges that the $77 million Saudi contract may have been greased with a $4.5 million payment to middleman Ghassn Shaker, the very same Lebanese businessman that Vinnell was trying to give a controlling interest in the company at a cut rate price. The hearings were held and Shaker was dissuaded from buying a controlling interest in Vinnell, but the contract to train the Saudi National Guard was allowed to stand.

By 1979, when a rebellion rocked the Saudi regime and opposition forces occupied the Grand Mosque at Mecca, Vinnell's "executive mercenaries" were called out from behind the scenes onto the front lines. The Washington Post reported at the time that in the final stages of the storming of the mosque, the Saudi princes who were running the military operation relied on "advice from the large U.S. military training mission" (including Vinnell contract employees) and were "in frequent telephone contact with U.S. officials." Counterspy magazine further reported that when the initial National Guard assault failed, Vinnell personnel were brought to Mecca to "provide the tactical support needed to capture the Mosque."

During the 1980s, things returned to "normal" in Saudi Arabia, with strict controls on freedom of expression, harsh repression of the rights of women, public beheadings of common criminals, and the maintenance of a fiercely anti-communist, pro-U.S. foreign policy. (These same practices continue to this day). Vinnell's role as the regime's principal security "prop" was barely discussed in the U.S. media, but the company did figure indirectly in the biggest intelligence scandal of the decade, Iran/contra. Lt. Col. Richard Gadd, who went on to become the chief operations officer for Ollie North and Richard Secord's private weapons air drop service for the contras, was hired by Vinnell for his first job out of the Air Force. According to Steven Emerson's 1988 book Secret Warriors, Gadd's work at Vinnell involved setting up a private, "black" air transport service called Sumairco which was to be dedicated solely to secret U.S. army operations. Gadd left Vinnell after a few months, taking Sumairco with him. He also used his brief stopover at Vinnell to get started on two other "special services" companies, American National Management and Eagle Aviation Services, which were secretly involved in such major operations as the 1983 U.S. invasion of Grenada.

That someone like Gadd would use Vinnell as his transition from serving in the armed forces to joining the netherworld of private companies involved in covert operations on behalf of the U.S. government is not surprising. Although Vinnell is one of literally hundreds of companies that do work for the CIA and military intelligence agencies, its strong ties to Saudi Arabia and its experience in military training and logistics make it a central players in this still burgeoning field.

Today, the biggest question regarding Vinnell's ongoing operations is the same one that was posed twenty years ago: why is a U.S. company using retired U.S. military and intelligence personnel to defend a corrupt monarchy in Saudi Arabia? It's obvious what's in it for the monarchy: protection from rebels and democrats who might want to change the kingdom's form of government. On this front, Vinnell must be busier than ever: Human Rights Watch reported that in 1994, "Saudi Arabia witnessed the largest roundup in recent history of opposition activists and a new low in the dismal human rights record of the Kingdom." The organization's report for 1995 cited "further deterioration in human rights observance," including a harsh crackdown on peaceful Islamist organizations. Political parties and demonstrations are outlawed, there is no independent free press, and there has been a systematic crackdown on peaceful Islamic dissenters.

The lengths to which the Saudi regime will go to prevent critical information from reaching its subjects were underscored in January of 1996 when Saudi officials tried to get Britain to deport Mohammed al-Mas'ari, whose Committee for the Defense of Legitimate Rights has been faxing critical reports about the Riyadh government to contacts within Saudi Arabia from its offices in London. The none to subtle message conveyed to Conservative Prime Minister John Major's government was that if Mas'ari was allowed to continue operating from Britain, Britain's future arms sales and other commercial contracts with Saudi Arabia might suffer. While Mas'ari's democratic credentials have been questioned in some U.S. media assessments of the case, his message is clear enough -- he told the New York Times in late January that "The Saudi regime is a mafia that has enormous wealth under its control and doesn't want to give it up. We want to have an elected, accountable government with a real rule of law and an independent judiciary."

The Saudi government obviously feels threatened enough by statements of this sort to make Mr. Mas'ari's presence in London into an international incident. Supporters of Mr. Mas'ari's organization operating within Saudi Arabia are treated even more harshly. On August 11, 1995, the Saudi government beheaded Abdalla al-Hudhaif, a supporter of CDLR who was convicted by a secret tribunal of offenses ranging from firearms possession to distributing critical leaflets to allegedly throwing acid at a security officer. Human Rights Watch notes that this last allegation against Mr. al-Haif is the only violent incident alleged against the peaceful Islamist opposition in Saudi Arabia during the government's ongoing crackdown on their activities. With peaceful means of expressing disagreement with the current Saudi ruling circle so systematically blocked, violent outbursts like the bombing of the Saudi National Guard headquarters are more likely to occur, and to be met in turn by violent repression by Saudi Arabia's Vinnell-trained internal security forces.

As for Vinnell and its employees, their main interest in Saudi Arabia is undoubtedly the money. A retired Marine officer who did five years with Vinnell in Saudi Arabia reports that he was able to save up several hundred thousand dollars to buy a retirement home in cash. An official familiar with the work of another U.S. firm that recently got a contract to train the Saudi Navy says that employees at the firm "feel like they've died and gone to heaven, because the Saudis will never run out of money." The myth of Saudi Arabia as a bottomless source of cash has worn thin lately as tens of billions of weapons purchases from the United States plus the cost of the 1991 Gulf War have driven the Saudi budget into deficit for the first time ever, but Vinnell's contract is safe as long as the current Saudi ruling clique stays in power (it was recently renewed through 1998). If anything, Vinnell's fortunes may improve in the short-term, now that King Fahd has stepped aside for health reasons, leaving the reins of government in the hands of his brother, Crown Prince Abdullah ibn Abdulaziz, who also happens to run the National Guard. Jane's Defense Weekly has speculated that the guard may be built up even faster now as a way of enhancing Crown Prince Abdullah's personal power base, which will no doubt mean bigger contracts for Vinnell as well.

But is what's good for the Saudi monarchy and its chosen protection service good for the people of the United States or Saudi Arabia? The short answer is no, but the U.S. government has exerted considerable energy trying to convince us that we're all in this mess together and that Americans have no choice but to support the Saudi monarchy.

It's true that the Saudi regime provides a wide array of economic and political services to the U.S. government and U.S. corporations, but most of these services have little to do with promoting either democracy or prosperity for the citizens of the United States or Saudi Arabia. The Saudis provide access to their oil resources to U.S. firms on extremely favorable terms, and adjust their pricing policies within OPEC in ways that support U.S. interests. For years, a significant portion of Saudi "petrodollar" revenues have been invested in U.S. government bonds, helping ease the burden of the growing U.S. budget deficit (the tradeoff is that taxpayers have been asked to spend hundreds of billions of dollars to build a U.S. military force that can get to the Middle East on short notice to defend regimes such as the Saudi monarchy from threats from without or within).

In the realm of secret wheeling and dealing, the Saudis have not shied from putting up money for joint covert operations with the U.S., from arming the Afghan rebels to providing funds to Oliver North's Iran/contra "enterprise." According to the Washington Post, the latest U.S.-Saudi joint venture has been a secret initiative to provide over $300 million for covert weapons supplies to the Bosnian government during the period of the UN embargo on that nation. Although Clinton Administration officials have denied involvement in this scheme, it would be consistent with other U.S. actions of the past several years, such as looking the other way as planeloads of weapons were dropped in the area. What is certain is that Saudi Arabia will be approached about providing funds to train Bosnian Muslim forces in the context of the current NATO intervention to police the Dayton accords. A source with contacts within the Vinnell Corporation has indicated that the State Department has encouraged Vinnell to bid on the contract to train the Bosnian forces. Vinnell's parent company, BDM, which bought the firm in 1993 to expand its market niche in military training services, already has a contract to provide 500 translators for NATO peacekeeping forces in Bosnia.

The Cold War is over, and the culture of deception and covert dealing represented by the Vinnell Corporation's role in Saudi Arabia should be brought to and end with it. Nothing of value can come from sustaining the secretive network of companies and relationships that has fueled scandal after scandal and cost thousands of innocent lives. Even advocates of a U.S. military role in Bosnia have to take pause at the recent revelations of covert activities on the part of the U.S. and its ally, Saudi Arabia, in arming Bosnian forces. If true, the secret violation of the arms embargo on Bosnia will take its place alongside a long line of examples of U.S. government hypocrisy, from the secret arming of Iran and Iraq in the 1980s to the cover-up of the U.S. role in the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of Guatemalans by Pentagon backed military forces and CIA-backed death squads from the 1960s through the 1990s. The common thread uniting these operations is the use of private companies and shadowy intelligence operatives to subvert the publicly stated objectives of U.S. policy, undermining democratic accountability in the process.

The policy of using Vinnell trainers and U.S. arms supplies to keep the Saudi monarchy in power can not be sustained indefinitely. For one thing, the money's running out. The lavish social programs that have been used to buy off dissent are being cut sharply to make room for continuing expenditures on advanced American, French, and British weaponry. A number of security analysts are beginning the speak of Saudi Arabia as the "next Iran," -- a top-heavy, corrupt monarchy that is in danger of being overthrown by its own people if it fails to implement major reforms soon. And as one confidential financial advisor to the Saudis told the New York Times, the U.S. policy of pushing weapons and military solutions over democratization and social reform may be the greatest single threat to the survival of the House of Saud:

"People think we have this great gold mine in Saudi Arabia . . . I don't think the U.S. government realizes what it is doing by shoving weapons down the Saudi's throats. They're forgetting that what they're doing is creating instability in Saudi Arabia. That could be the greatest risk to Saudi security."

The people of Saudi Arabia will eventually demand and receive a measure of input into how their government is run and how their resources are utilized. Whether that change comes about through a revolution led by Islamic fundamentalists or an evolution towards democracy will depend in significant part on whether U.S. policy continues to back the monarchy to the hilt or press for a political opening that allows for peaceful change.

If the Saudi monarchy is overthrown, will Vinnell be put in charge of "cleaning up" all the sensitive U.S.-built military and intelligence facilities in Saudi Arabia as it was during the U.S. withdrawal from Vietnam? Or will the American public head off that day by demanding that our government get out of the dictator protection racket and allow the possibility of genuine democratic development in Saudi Arabia?




Re: Mercenaries Inc.: How a U.S. Company Props Up
Yasmeena
05/20/03 at 19:42:19
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Good article!

I have known since I was a teenager that my government was behind shady dealings.  My father was in the military and we lived most of my growing up years on military bases.  Military "brats", as we were called, knew what our dads did but we didn't talk about it to civilians.  I sometimes feel that I was born with a security clearance stamped on my diaper.

At 15 years old, I was called into my dad's commander's office and asked bluntly if I wanted to get my dad in trouble.  When I tried to play dumb, he pulled out a file with all the peace activist activities I was involved in.  I then bluntly asked this officer if my dad, and his government, weren't doing anything wrong, why were they afraid of what a bunch of "peace niks" were saying or doing.

Now, 30 plus years later, I wouldn't be surprised if I was still under scrutinity.  And I have only been Muslim, a "nasty terrorist" for a year.

Give me a big break!!  We all know what the US Empire is up to.  Why do they try to hide it.  They probably gloat in private, why not publically and come clean!!

Ever the Peace Activist,

Yasmeena

[wlm]
Re: Mercenaries Inc.: How a U.S. Company Props Up
BroHanif
05/20/03 at 20:01:05
Salaams,

[quote]This should provide some insight into the motives behind the May 13 bombing attacks in Saudi Arabia. I think before we jump to conclusions and join the bandwagon of "terrorism" denunciation, let's look at the history and the targets to see what might motivate some people to carry these extreme attacks.[/quote]

So now its justified to a certain degree ?. Many brothers in the National Guard are those who protect the hajis at hajj time. I myself and wifey were assisted at hajj time by a brother from the National Guard and I have nothing but admiration for the way he conducted himself and his collegues.

Lets be further careful to what we say as it may be interpreted as if one does not agree with the FBI, MI6, Pentagon etc etc, do we bomb them or not. By the above critique it seems it is warranted. If such is our thinking should we not move out of the country all together rather than contributing to taxes and propping them up. Why can't we then take the lesser of the evils and move to a country distant and remote from the rest of society. If we can't find one go live like a bedouin and cut all forms of communication with society, therefore you are not contributing to the governments taxes.

About the attacks since when was it ok to kill another Muslim?. Do people now kill innocents now going in guns blazing and killing even women and children ?. Is this what Islam is about ?. Look into who they killed also at the compound, were they all under the unbrella of the National Guard ?. No.

We ask about the leadership of the Saudi monarchs, yet isn't it the case that if the people are rotten then the leadership is rotten. Is this not the case for the whole ummah today ?.  

There was no justification for the attack. Simply blind hate. What have these cowards acheived ? Nothing. Apart from degrading the name of Islam further. Nothing. Security has been scaled up and this causes problems for everyone as it impacts daily life. If anyone wants a taster go to Gaza and see how it feels.

The action has only caused further problems for sincere brothers/sisters who follow the Quran and Sunnah whether they are in the birthplace of Islam or not.

Salaams

Hanif
NS
Re: Mercenaries Inc.: How a U.S. Company Props Up
Maliha
05/21/03 at 11:55:19
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I just don't know anymore Uncle Hanif. We live in a world where blood is so devalued, and life is treated as nothing more than trash. I didn't provide this article to justify anything, but to provide a context for why things happen. The National guard are there to protect the Saud Family and are there to protect the oil investments, period. It's nice that you ran across some nice ones, but they are known to use torture, jail shuyukh and give foreigners a hard time. I work downtown, I run across many military folks and some go out of their way to say hi. I don't think every individual is bad, but they have a job to do and orders to follow.
It's hard to justify peace to someone whose family has been massacred and village destroyed. I really think our liberal views are a product of our priviledged existence. So yeah, you may sit behind your luxurious office dwellings, typing away what cowards they are...but our specs are different.
I just lost my faith is so many things, peace talks, conferences, politricking is not going to achieve anything.
Killing innocent people is not going to achieve anything.
But violence begets violence.
If someone came and slaughtered my mother, my precious little sister, my brother, destroyed my home...I know my stance on a lot of things will be completely different.
Such is life and the nature of human beings.
It doesn't justify anything, but it kinda brings a new perspective on the complexity of life and death, priviledge and impoverishment, Justice and Peace.
Patrick Henry said "Give me liberty or Give me death" He was ironically considered a hero, a patriot even.
But then again, it's Their Story, not ours.
Peace,
Maliha.
[wlm]
Re: Mercenaries Inc.: How a U.S. Company Props Up
humble_muslim
05/21/03 at 12:51:14
AA

Every single time any muslim says "boo" in the world today, the whole world knows about it immediately.  And people will judge Islam and muslims by this. And every time that "boo" happens, who suffers the most? Muslims. How? IN many ways.

1. There are some VERY dedicated bros and sisters who have been doing dawah in the west, really spending their time and effort to spread the message to both muslims and non-muslims - and not just sitting behind their luxurious offices.  I can name people inside the very building I work who come into this category. And every time the "boo" happens, Allah alone knows how many steps backwards they are put.  These muslims will suffer.

2. Every time a "boo" happens, all violence against muslims becomes justified.  So since 9/11, excess human right violations have been occuring in Palestine, in China and probably other places.  These muslims suffer.

3. Every time the "boo" happens, there will be some practicsing muslims whose faith will be tested.  I can't say for sure, but I'd wonder how many muslims have apostisied from Islam since 9/11.

4. As Hanif SO RIGHTLY points out, the whole blame is ours, not "theirs".  We are simply not practicing the deen, inclduing the injucntion to stop the oppressor even if he is your brother.


5. One thing which I had hoped the ignorant masses of muslims had learnt in the last few months was how much striving was done by non-muslim peace activists in both the UK and the US against the war.  THEY DID A LOT TO TRY TO STOP IT.  And what was the response in Saudia Arabia? Bomb them.  How disgusting.

So who's the big loser in all this ? The muslims, and Islam.
NS
Re: Mercenaries Inc.: How a U.S. Company Props Up
BroHanif
05/21/03 at 19:46:43
Salaams,

[quote]It's hard to justify peace to someone whose family has been massacred and village destroyed. I really think our liberal views are a product of our priviledged existence. So yeah, you may sit behind your luxurious office dwellings, typing away what cowards they are...but our specs are different.  
I just lost my faith is so many things, peace talks, conferences, politricking is not going to achieve anything.
Killing innocent people is not going to achieve anything.
But violence begets violence.
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Dearest Sis I'm a bit confused, you say our specs are different how are they ?. I feel the same pain as my brothers/siters in Palestine, Kashimir, Chechneya and other places. I also get hurt when innocents are killed, whether they were dancing in a club in Bali or having a community meeting with fellow Jews in Morroco. Sure no one in my family has got battered yet, but this does not mean that I'm blind to others in pain.

Have we all forgotten how the prophet of Allah was abused ?.
Let us recall a few points:
How would you feel if your whole community who called you a trusted one now turn their back on you because of your faith  ?
How would you feel if a whole community was placed under sanctions where no food was allowed because of your faith ?.
How would you feel if you forced to migrate from your place of living to another area because of your faith ?
How would you feel if your own daughters were divorced at the same time because of your faith ?
How would you feel if your beliefs were now attacked and the enemy is intent to destroy you for the beliefs you hold ?
How would you feel that you come for pilgrimage but are turned away, and told to come again some other time ?

How would we feel now if we had the chance to persecute our enemies who inflicted much harm on us and the belivers of the same faith.

What would we do in this position and what did the prophet of Allah [saw]  do when he conquered Macca ?. Why can we not do this today ?. Let us ask oursleves. We all claim to be the lovers of the prophet  [saw] yet are we really.

[quote]I just lost my faith is so many things, peace talks, conferences, politricking is not going to achieve anything. [/quote]

I hope this is a temporary pause, does not the Quran ask of us

Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and fair exhortion and argue with them with that which is the best. Lo! your Lord is best aware of him who strays from his way, and is best aware of those who go right." (Qur'an, an-Nahl:125)


This is how the war on terror can be won. If we stop going to peace talks/conferences isn't this a part of deen as we need to stand up to such dictators and desposts whether they are based in the East or West. Is this not a Jihad as well ?.  We need to respond to their lies with intellect and need to win the arguement over. Please do not give up this fight.

And if you and I fail to do this, then what of other Muslims ?. What if you were the only active person in your community and me in mine? Now what would happen if we feel that it is no longer warranted to carry out this struggle. What happens when the nx attack takes place ? How will our communities respond with silence or with a suitable action ?. And whether we see any positive action or not, are we not doing this for Allah ?.

[quote]Every time the "boo" happens, there will be some practicsing muslims whose faith will be tested.  I can't say for sure, but I'd wonder how many muslims have apostisied from Islam since 9/11. [/quote]

That is so true ,one thing for sure more and more Muslims are thinking every day that the struggle for deen is not worth it. I know of personal cases where after 9/11 many Muslims were close to ditch Islam.
I can even remember some brothers/sisters on this very board who's imaan got tested yet they managed to pass the test.  

Its up to each and every single one of us how we want to pass this test. Do we use tolerance, hikmah and the example of our prophet  [saw] within the Quran and Sunnah or do we simply shrug our shoulders and ask Allah to sort it out.

I know what choice I've made.

Salaams,

Hanif
NS
Re: Mercenaries Inc.: How a U.S. Company Props Up
UmmWafi
05/22/03 at 01:02:08
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Upon reading the original article by Sis Mystic, my first impression wasn't of her trying to justify the bombing but of her trying to point out the backdrop against the attack.  Whether we agree or not on the rightness or wrongness of a particular action, we must try to understand the context and the framework of the action.  Perhaps the bombing was wrong but the message sent could be for Muslim leaders to be extra careful in their dealings with their community and its sensitivities and also how they are seen as conducting themselves with others, especially if those others are seen as agressors against Islam and Muslims.

A parallel would be the suicide bombers in Palestine.  Long before Osama and his cohorts , these bombers were already rocking the Jewish world.  They sparked a whole new controversy and debate.  Are they right or wrong ? Are they Jihadis or sinners etc..etc.  Despite the fact that these controversies remain, one agreement was reached.  They are desperate people.  They are a people who have lived under a cruel and oppressive regime who have no regards on the sanctity of lives.  Sure, when we watch TV and read abt the Palestinians, we feel pain, we feel hurt.  The thing is, do we feel THEIR pain ? Do we feel THEIR hurt ? Unless you are a Palestinian living under Israeli oppression for the past 20 years, I doubt so. Yes, we sympathise and empathise but we don't know exactly.  Thereby lies the need for us to exercise restraint in judgement.  To support or to condemn...why do we fall into such a quagmire of choice ? (sic). The truth is, as with everything since the time of Nabi Adam ra till Nabi Muhammad  [saw] till now, absolute truth is Allah.  All else ? You tell me.

[i]yet isn't it the case that if the people are rotten then the leadership is rotten. Is this not the case for the whole ummah today ?.[/i]

I don't know about everyone but I have a particular aversion of being pigeonholed, especially in sweeping general statements.  Maybe the above statement is true of some Muslim communities today but when we say Ummah, we mean the whole billions of Muslims on planet earth.  I am not one to take credit where its not due but neither do I take a slap lying down.  My own experiences and also the experiences of others I know around the world have shown me that there are many wonderful Muslims who are fighting tooth and nails to provide a check and balance on their leaders, some, like me, having to lose many precious luxuries along the way.  So, no. It is not the case that the the sum are equals to the parts.  Logic 101 will tell you that is a fallacy.

[i] the whole blame is ours, not "theirs".[/i]

Dear brother please do not deluge yourself with the idea that hatred and agression against Islam is only now after 9/11, after Bali, after Riyadh and after Morocco.  Go read Samuel Huntington's Clash of Civilisations.  If you have the time, go read all historical documents relating to aggressions against Islam and Muslims.  The anti-Islam movement is a mounted campaign.  Sure, we did not help the Islam case much by all these aggressions but do not be too generous and attribute all ignorance, fear and hatred to us and lay all the blame on our doorsteps.  Being humble is good but being apologetic and self-deprecating is sure not healthy.  One last moot point, lets go beyond blame and finger pointing and lets look for solutions.  To get solutions, one must understand context and framework.

Allahu'alam bissawab.

[sup][i]Disclaimer : In case my post is a wee bit askance, I replied out of sincere concerns not cos Maliha is my rainbow :).  Also, if by my reply, anyone thinks I support violence, well, I don't.[/i][/sup]

Wassalam
05/22/03 at 01:09:51
UmmWafi


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