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| Shahida |
| 05/21/03 at 06:36:48 |
| [slm] everyone... I had an interesting conversation with a sister here, in which I was telling her that I was sooo grateful to someone, cuz they helped me out when nobody else could, and it really meant so much to me. She proceeded to tell me, that my "gratefulness" should be channelled to Allah instead, becuz Allah allowed this person to help me...basically the help came from Allah, NOT this person...like I am not being grateful to Allah, or that my gratefulness to this person somehow retracted from my gratefulness to Allah... ??? I sat there :o So basically she believes that you should not be grateful to people, as Allah makes them help you anyway, and you only owe gratefulness to Allah. Anyone heard about those who cannot show gratefulness to mankind and therefore cannot be expected to show gratefulness to their Lord? >:( :( ??? :'( Wasalam Shahida |
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| siddiqui |
| 05/21/03 at 06:47:44 |
| [slm] My position is be greatful To Allah swt for every thing that is a part of huqullah (duty towards Allah swt) and also be greatful to the person who has helped me for in my opinion that comes under the purview of huqul ibaad or duties towards man kind wallahu aalam biswaab The point to remembr is Islaam encompasses politeness and kindness too, its a way of Life [wlm] |
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| theOriginal |
| 05/21/03 at 06:48:31 |
| [slm] Well it's the concept of 'Thank You' versus 'JazakAllah Khair'... I had this very same talk with a brother who helped me out considerably this past semester. He got fairly upset when I thanked him, saying that his help was not his 'to give'. He proceeded to go on with some analogy about how we are but tools of Allah...something like that. Anyway, make duaa for the person who helped you out...I guess that would be a great way to be grateful. Wasalaam. |
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| WhatDFish |
| 05/21/03 at 06:49:43 |
| assalaamu`alaikum i believe one can thank ppl and be grateful to them. its not ethical if one does not acknowledge help rendered to them. one of the greatest scholars of the Ummah, Sufyan ibn Uyaynah (ra) – said, “Whoever prays the 5 salah has been grateful to Allah. And whoever prays for his parents after the Salah has been grateful to them.” |
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| Kathy |
| 05/21/03 at 08:17:36 |
| [slm] I am glad that you posted this question. There have been a couple of people in my life that I was very greatful to. I am not all that sure I ever thanked Allah swt for them.... It is always good to be in the company of Muslims...we remind each other. |
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| humble_muslim |
| 05/21/03 at 09:35:33 |
| AA The Prophet SAW said something like : "Whoever is ungrateful to people is ungrateful to Allah". So we HAVE to be grateful to people who help us. As for gratefullness to Allah, this is something that we are supposed to have in ALL situtations. |
| NS |
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| Abu_Atheek |
| 05/21/03 at 12:50:35 |
| [wlm] Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh The concept of being grateful for other people’s kindness is perhaps most emphasized in the Hadith in which Abu Hurairah quotes the Prophet as saying: “He who does not thank men is ungrateful to God.” (Related by Al-Bukhari in Al-Adab Al-Mufrad, Ahmad, Abu Dawood, At-Tirmithi and Ibn Majah.) This Hadith relates thanking people to being grateful to God. This relationship may not be immediately apparent. If we contemplate it a little, we realize that it is a statement of a simple fact. Everyone knows that people are gratified when they are thanked for a kind gesture. Indeed, most people feel hurt if they had done a favor to someone and he neglects to thank them. The more expressive he is of his gratitude to them, the more ready they are to repeat their kindness. This is a trait of human nature that is known to everyone. Not everyone knows, however, that God wants us to thank Him for the favors He has bestowed on us. Indeed, many people take His favors for granted and think of them as something they have by right. If you tell people that they should thank God for giving them their eyesight or their hearing or their other faculties, many of them would wonder at what you are saying. They think that they are entitled to have all these. Having them is only what everyone would expect. Hence, they think that they owe nothing for what they have and enjoy. Only if they happen to have something exceptionally fortunate, they may think that they ought to thank God for it. Many of them, however, do not even entertain the idea of thanking God for that. But God would like us to thank Him for His kindness and for all the favors which He has bestowed on us. He benefits nothing by our thanks and expressions of gratitude. He simply likes to see us appreciate His bounty. If people turn a blind eye to God’s favors and do not thank Him for them, God is not affected in any way. Their attitude reflects only on them. What the Prophet tells us in this Hadith is that a person who is not used to thanking people for the favors they do him will not thank God for what He has given him. This is merely a logical progression of the same attitude. If we do not thank our fellow human beings for a kindness to which we have no right, we are less likely to thank God for what He has given us. On the other hand, when we thank people for their favors, we are by implication thanking God for providing the means for these favors to be done to us. This is the proper attitude which is expected from every Muslim. [i]by Adil Salahi, Religious Editor, Arab News - 04 Dec 1998[/i] |
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| Abu_Atheek |
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| Shahida |
| 05/22/03 at 06:27:36 |
| [slm] jazakumAllahu khairun everyone. Let me just make one thing clear: As Muslims we should thank Allah regardless, i.e whether He has provided us with something good or not. And we should be grateful to people as well. This friend of mine was being grateful to Allah, ONLY, and does not see herself fit to thank any mortal, becuz she sees whatever they do as coming to her... VERY interesting post Abu Atheek! I really benefitted from that. It really made me wonder just how grateful we are to Allah, thinking that things are just COMING to us, like Allah s.w.t OWES us or something... Thanks again, may Allah reward you all Wasalam Shahida |
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