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| KULTIGIN |
| 06/06/03 at 09:34:18 |
| [slm] dear sisters i would like to ask a question. as long as i know hicap is the thing that you have to do but i am wondering about if you are allowed to open your arms and show everybody. i mean the head is closed but the rest dont support it. i would like to learnd pls excuse my low knowledge about it . ;-) [slm] |
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| Sabr |
| 06/06/03 at 15:00:46 |
| [slm] bro can u explain further..I don't know what u r referring to ?...maybe some1 else can help Wassalam |
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| Nomi |
| 06/06/03 at 17:36:01 |
| [slm] i think i know what he's trying to ask but i better not put it here, it would be better if some sister tries to understand what hes saying and put it here the right way !!! [slm] Asim Zafar |
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| a_Silver_Rose |
| 06/06/03 at 20:23:48 |
| [slm] I realize that you may see some woman who wear the scarf but wear tight or revealing clothes. Just know that this is not the correct way. I remember long while back during sunday school we learned that the conditions were, looseness, thickness, the shirt should go past the waist, it shouldnt be very bright, not transparent, and cover the entire body, except face and hands. Allah (swt) says: [i]“And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear therof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands’ fathers, their sons, their husbands’ sons, their brothers, or their brothers’ sons or their sisters’ sons, or their women or the servants whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex, and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O you Believers, turn you all together towards Allah, that you may attain Bliss.” (Translation of Quran 24:31). [/i] The hijab is just not the headscarf, there is more to it. Here is some information: The Obligatory Conditions For An Islamic Hijab 1. Covering ALL Of The Body It is an agreed position by many respected scholars that the face and hands of the woman must be covered. Some scholars say it is permissible to uncover the face and the hands of the woman as long as there is no fitna (infatuation) caused by this action. Two things must be taken into consideration a) if she is beautiful and beautifies her face and hands with external substances, or b) the society around her is corrupt where men do not lower their gaze, then it is prohibited for her to uncover her face and hands. On the authority of the wife of the prophet (pbuh), Umm Salama (RA) said: "When the verse was revealed that they should cast their outer garments over their bodies' was revealed, the women of Ansar came out as if they had crows over their heads by wearing outer garments. 2.The hijab must not be a display The hijab itself must not be a display. Allah ordained it so as to cover the beauty of women and not for showing off. Allah (swt) says `And not show of their adornment except only that which is apparent.' (S24:31). AND `And stay in your houses and do not display yourselves like that of the times of ignorance.' (S33:33). It is in no way logical that the hijab itself be a source of display. 3. The hijab must not be transparent The purpose of wearing hijab must be achieved. In order for the hijab to be a cover, it must not be made of transparent material making the woman covered only by name, while in reality she is naked. The prophet (pbuh) is quoted as saying: "In the latest part of my Ummah (nation of Muslims) there shall be women who would be naked in spite of being dressed, they have their hair high like the humps of the Bukhp camel, curse them, for they are cursed. They will not enter Al-Jannah and would not even perceive its odour, although it's fragrance can be perceived from a distance of 500 years travelling by camel" This indicates that a woman could cause herself a grave and destructive sin if she puts on a garment that is thin and transparent and which clearly shapes her body's features. 4.Hijab must be roomy, and not tight. The hijab is a safeguard against fitna. If it is tight, it will be descriptive of the woman's body and this violates and defeats the whole purpose of hijab. 5.The hijab must not be perfumed On the authority of Ad'Diya Al-Maqdisi, the prophet (pbuh) said: "Any woman who perfumes herself and passes by some people that they smell her scent, then she is a Zaniyah (adulteress)." 6. The hijab shouldn't resemble the dress of a man Imam Ahmed, an-Nissa'ee reported the prophet (pbuh) to have said: "Women who assume the manners of men are not from us and also those of men who assume the manners of women." Abu Huraira narrated that: "The Prophet (pbuh) CURSED the man who wears the dress of a woman and the woman who wears the dress of a man." 7.The hijab must not resemble the garments of the kuffar Abu Dawoud and Ahmed have related the prophet (pbuh) said: "The one who take the similitude (manner) of a certain people, then he/she becomes one of them." Abdullah bin Ummar (RA) said: "The Prophet (pbuh) saw me wearing two garments dyed in saffron (orange), whereupon he said: these are the clothes (usually worn) by the kuffar, so do not wear them." 8.The hijab should not be for fame Abu Dawoud and Ibn Majah have related the prophet to saying: "The one who wears a garment designed for a worldly fame, Allah will make them wear a garment of humility on the Day Of Resurrection then he will be set ablaze." The garment of fame is any garment a person wears to make themselves look famous. This applies whether the garment is highly precious and shows admiration to the life of this world or if it is chosen of a low quality to show lack of interest to this worldly life. The person may put on clothes with distinct colours so as to draw attention, act proudly and/or arrogantly. 9.Concealed ways of display Examining the various conditions about the hijab one can clearly recognise that many of the young Muslim women are not fulfilling these conditions. Many just take "half-way" measures, which not only mocks the community in which she lives, but also mocks the commands of Allah (swt). They consider what they put on now wrongly as "hijab" So, O muslimoon, be mindful to Allah (swt) and His Messenger (pbuh), and do not deceived by those who "bless" this action of yours and conceal their true intentions. Do not be deceived, and there is no excuse to follow the evil. If you are sincere in achieving Al-Jannah, then be mindful of these things, insha'allah Source Reference: islamworld- University of Essex Islamic Society Courtesy: www.everymuslim.com |
| 06/06/03 at 20:43:23 |
| a_Silver_Rose |
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| Sunnah |
| 06/12/03 at 18:39:25 |
| [slm] the question is understood by sis silverose. i think KULTIGIN means that some girl just wear the hijab {hicap----> turkish spelling i guess ;) } and they don't care if their hands shows. sometime they even wear tight cloths. i will honestly say, yeah sometime i show my hand, about one quarter though. not all of it! but i don't remeber myself wearing tight clothing though. i don't like tight stuff. my body needs room. ;D ;D ;D i know i shouldn't wear like three quarter hand shirt, but when its very hot i just can't help myself. :'( i will try not to do that inshaallah. by the way, i know who you ar KULTIGIN. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Have some [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] 8) :-) [wlm] ps. brother asim, don' t be afraid to post about hijab |
| 06/12/03 at 18:42:42 |
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| Nomi |
| 06/12/03 at 20:35:57 |
| [wlm] and [slm] Well i do appreciate on the main those sisters who talk about their hijab/niqab, but that wasn't me :) ... but if u still think that its me then i have no regrets about it :) But it was not me [slm] Asim Zafar PS: why would n e one take the pain of making a new user and then post it, whats the purpose of "Anonymous" user then :) |
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| Sunnah |
| 06/12/03 at 22:36:45 |
| [quote author=Nomi link=board=sis;num=1054902859;start=0#5 date=06/12/03 at 20:35:57][wlm] and [slm] Well i do appreciate on the main those sisters who talk about their hijab/niqab, but that wasn't me :) ... but if u still think that its me then i have no regrets about it :) But it was not me [slm] Asim Zafar PS: why would n e one take the pain of making a new user and then post it, whats the purpose of "Anonymous" user then :) [/quote] [slm] i have no clue about what you are talking about! i didn't write that you were the one who post it! i mean that if you ever want to write about hijab you should go ahead and write...its nice to read more article about hijab and it also good to have the brothers' opinion. thats all ;-) have some [] [] [] [] [] [] from me. [wlm] |
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| Nomi |
| 06/13/03 at 12:52:15 |
| lol, silly me. Oh... btw, is that Zam Zam Cola ? :D [slm] Asim Zafar |
| 06/13/03 at 12:54:37 |
| Nomi |
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| Sunnah |
| 06/14/03 at 22:24:13 |
| [slm] CORRECTION: have some Zam Zam Cola [] [] [] [] [] [] [] from me silly ;-). :) ;D ;D ;D [wlm] |
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