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| This is Jack's broken heart... |
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| theOriginal |
| 06/17/03 at 16:27:15 |
| [slm] I can't describe it, so I had to use the line from the Fight Club. If anyone has seen that movie, then they might understand how I am feeling right now. You know, towards the end, when Jack finds out that Tyler Durden doesn't think that Jack is as special as Jack thought Tyler Dryden thought he was special (I'm trying so hard not to ruin the movie, since it is SO worth the watch), and Jack walks away saying/thinking... "This is Jack's broken heart" But it has nothing to do with the feeling of betrayal, really, it's just that he feels like his heart has been broken, for whatever reason. For the disarray of human kind, for the loss of continuity, for everything, but really, for NOTHING. I feel like that right now. Despite my sorry attempt at some humor...I'm feeling kinda down.... This is my broken heart. :'( Wasalaam. |
| Re: This is Jack's broken heart... |
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| chiq |
| 06/17/03 at 22:14:27 |
| [slm] Tears that are neither specifically happy nor sad ones, but acknowledge that life is difficult and must be borne? Is it like that? (Haven't seen Fight Club) Ya know, I was wondering - you know how kids cry their eyes out when they leave home for the first time when they go to a camp or trip or anything where they have to leave their parents, home and security behind for a while? Well, likewise this dunya isn't our home, right? And Allah's taken all [i]permanent[/i] feelings of content out of it and placed them in ibadah...maybe when we're just crying random tears, we're crying for our real home... Well I do anyway ;D [wlm] |
| Re: This is Jack's broken heart... |
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| theOriginal |
| 06/18/03 at 04:04:49 |
| [slm] wow... that was the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me. I know you said it generally, but MashaAllah....you have a way with words... JazakAllah Khair.. Wasalaam. |
| “Don’t Be Sad” |
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| bhaloo |
| 06/19/03 at 00:21:57 |
| [slm] “Don’t Be Sad” by Shaykh Aaidh Al-Qarni. Allah has asked us not be sad. He says: “So do not become weak [against your enemy], nor be sad…” Surah Al-Imran - Ayah 139. “And grieve not over them, and be not distressed because of what they plot.” Surah An-Nahl - Ayah127. “Be not sad, surely Allah is with us.” Surah At-Taubah - Ayah 40. We are informed in the following verse about the believers that: “…upon such shall come no fear, nor shall they grieve.” Surah Al-Baqarah - Ayah 38. Sadness enervates the spirit’s will to action, paralysing the body into inactivity. The secret of this is that sadness prevents one from action instead of compelling one towards it. The heart benefits nothing through grief. The most beloved thing to the Devil is to make the worshipper sad in order to prevent him from continuing on his path. Allah says: “Secret counsels [conspiracies] are only from Shaytaan (Satan), in order that he may cause grief to the believers.” Surah Al-Mujadilah – Ayah 10. In the following hadith, the Prophet Sallalahu Alayhi Wasalam said: “In a company of three, it is forbidden for two to hold secret counsel while excluding the third, as this will be a cause of sadness for him.” Contrary to what some believe (those who have an extreme ascetic bent), the believer should not seek out sadness, because sadness is a harmful element that afflicts the soul. The Muslim must repel sadness, fighting it in any way that is permissible in our Religion. There is no real benefit in sadness; the Prophet Muhammad Sallalahu Alayhi Wasalam sought refuge from it in the following supplication: “O’ Allah, I seek refuge in you from anxiety and grief.” Grief is coupled with anxiety in this hadith. The difference between the two is that if a bad feeling that pervades the heart is related to what is going to happen in the future, then it is anxiety. And if the cause of this feeling concerns the past, then it is grief. Both of them weaken the heart, causing inactivity and a decrease in will power. Details Taken From – “Don’t Be Sad” by Shaykh Aaidh Al-Qarni. |
| Re: This is Jack's broken heart... |
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| a_Silver_Rose |
| 06/19/03 at 01:44:23 |
| [slm] [quote]Tears that are neither specifically happy nor sad ones, but acknowledge that life is difficult and must be borne? Is it like that? (Haven't seen Fight Club) Ya know, I was wondering - you know how kids cry their eyes out when they leave home for the first time when they go to a camp or trip or anything where they have to leave their parents, home and security behind for a while? Well, likewise this dunya isn't our home, right? And Allah's taken all permanent feelings of content out of it and placed them in ibadah...maybe when we're just crying random tears, we're crying for our real home... Well I do anyway [/quote] wow subhan'Allah I never thought of that... thanx |
| 06/23/03 at 00:50:30 |
| a_Silver_Rose |
| Re: This is Jack's broken heart... |
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| paula |
| 06/19/03 at 03:23:41 |
| [slm] [size=2][font=Book Antiqua][color=Navy] [quote]Ya know, I was wondering - you know how kids cry their eyes out when they leave home for the first time when they go to a camp or trip or anything where they have to leave their parents, home and security behind for a while? Well, likewise this dunya isn't our home, right? And Allah's taken all permanent feelings of content out of it and placed them in ibadah...maybe when we're just crying random tears, we're crying for our real home... [/quote] :-* Masha' Allah Sister Chiq ...... that touched the heart.... deeply ..... Jazak Allahu Khairan[/color][/font][/size] [wlm] |
| 06/19/03 at 03:26:15 |
| paula |
| A guy's perspective <= Don't shoot me. |
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| bhaloo |
| 06/19/03 at 09:26:07 |
| [slm] Isn't it possible that you all are just crying for no reason because your girls? ??? Isn't that part of being a girl, being emotional? :o |
| Pulls out her archery kit... |
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| theOriginal |
| 06/19/03 at 09:57:01 |
| [slm] read the subject line. Wasalaam. |
| CALLS THE COPS |
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| Nomi |
| 06/19/03 at 10:13:00 |
| Read the subject line again |
| 06/19/03 at 10:15:12 |
| Nomi |
| guys are just as emotional...:) |
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| a_Silver_Rose |
| 06/19/03 at 17:14:18 |
| [slm] Psychology proves that girls and guys are equally emotional but girls just express their emotions more since guys have a ego problem :P By the way I think it also said/proves that girls like guys who express their emotions. I will post the proof soon in the ikhwan insh'Allah.... |
| 06/19/03 at 17:15:34 |
| a_Silver_Rose |
| Re: This is Jack's broken heart... |
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| muahmed |
| 06/19/03 at 17:25:05 |
| [slm] ;-) You actually trust psychology? A psychology professor once said about therapy on people who have a memory lapse and forget their past or a part of it, that the probability of it coming back to them is higher if they just sit at home and do nothing than if they get psychological therapy. |
| Re: This is Jack's broken heart... |
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| Nabila |
| 06/19/03 at 17:48:22 |
| [slm] It could be that the entire socialisation process is different for the sexes. Boys are told not to express emotion whereas girls are. Maccoby and Jacklin (1974) reviewed over 1,500 separate pieces of research and concluded that girls are marginally superior on on tests of verbal ability, whereas boys tend to do slightly better on on visual/spatial tests and on tests of arithmetical reasoning; boys are more physically and verbally agressive than girlsand there is little difference in overall intelligence. They concluded that most gender stereotypes are 'cultural myths' due to the separate socialisation processes and androcentric (male centered) research. There... some hard evidence. Can you tell Im fresh from my psycho exam :D ma asalaamah and take care |
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| Nomi |
| 06/19/03 at 18:00:28 |
| [slm] [quote] girls are marginally superior on on tests of verbal ability [/quote] We guys have NO doubts about that :P Asim Zafar verbal ability :P .... talk => replay => talk => |
| 06/19/03 at 18:01:20 |
| Nomi |
| Re: This is Jack's broken heart... |
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| a_Silver_Rose |
| 06/19/03 at 18:56:42 |
| [slm] [quote]You actually trust psychology? A psychology professor once said about therapy on people who have a memory lapse and forget their past or a part of it, that the probability of it coming back to them is higher if they just sit at home and do nothing than if they get psychological therapy. [/quote] There are alot of theories in psychology but some stuff is for sure like this :) because they have no doubt about this since it wasnt even close or anything. insh'Allah I will post ....By the way alot of stuff psychology proves today, Islam has been saying all along and thats why we do what we do. So yes that is why I do believe/understand alot of what psychology says. If you look around you will see yourself that there are alot of emotional men just as their are woman. it depends on the individual...woman tend to express it more... [quote]It could be that the entire socialisation process is different for the sexes. Boys are told not to express emotion whereas girls are. [/quote] I agree with this to a point because growing up in America I notice that people in foreign countries actually are more emotional, men tend to cry more ect... But I also think maybe this is part of their nature to control it, and that is why Allah (swt) has given the man the role for maintenance, protection, control ect. |
| Re: This is Jack's broken heart... |
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| tq |
| 06/22/03 at 20:16:15 |
| Assalamo elikuim Just want to know how is Jack's heart ? I hope it is not soo broken now :) Wasalam tq |
| Re: This is Jack's broken heart... |
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| abubakr |
| 06/23/03 at 21:26:46 |
| who knows this song, i don't remeber it's name, i don't remember the singer' i dont't ... you say it. yes the lyrics but it says something like this ...... the road jack no come back no more no more .. like this it's so beautiful |
| Re: This is Jack's broken heart... |
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| Nabila |
| 06/24/03 at 02:04:46 |
| [slm] Think I know the one -- Ray Charles Number isnt it? Hit the ro-oad Jack, and dont you come back no more no more no more no more and so on.... Just curious - how is it relevant here ??? ma asalaamah and take care |
| Re: This is Jack's broken heart... |
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| abubakr |
| 06/24/03 at 02:49:19 |
| [wlm] you should check my 70some posts here, most of them are (irrelevant or unrelevant not sure) and out of topic, the song just came to my mind with the jack thing jazaki Allah khairan, and may him (Allah) increase you in din and knowledge and bless you and your family aamen |
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