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| Errr..Aisha.. song??? |
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| AyeshaZ |
| 07/19/03 at 22:29:41 |
| [slm] I just got an e-mail from a friend about this song..I saw like 2 hijabis!! now my comp is stinky so couldn't make out the video exactly.. but the lyrics sound insulting to me... http://g2.bmg.de:8080/ramgen/bmg/videos/outlandish/aisha.rm/ AISHA Intro (Waqas) All ya radios out there, this song goes out to you Yeah,Aisha,all my sisters y'all Verse 1 (Isam) So sweet, so beautiful Everyday like a queen on her throne Don't nobody knows how she feels Aisha, Lady one day it'll be real She moves, she moves like a breeze I swear I can't get her out of my dreams To have her shining right here by my side (shinin' like a star) I'd sacrifice all dem tears in my eyes Ohhhh Chorus Aisha Aisha - passing me by (there she go again) Aisha Aisha - my my my (is it really real) Aisha Aisha - smile for me now Aisha Aisha - in my life (yeah) Verse 2 (Isam) She holds her child to her heart Makes her feel like she is blessed from above Falls asleep underneath her sweet tears Her lullaby fades away with his fears 1/2 Chorus Bridge (Isam) Needs somebody to lean on (lean on) Someone body, mind & soul (body, mind & soul) To take her hand, to take her world And show her the time of her life, so true Throw the pain away for good No more contemplating boo (contemplating [...] No more contemplating boo) Verse 3 (Isam) Lord knows the way she feels (I wonder) Everyday in His name she begins To have her shining here by my side I'd sacrifice all dem tears in my eyes Aisha Aisha - écoutez-moi (let's do this) |
| 07/20/03 at 17:55:37 |
| AyeshaZ |
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| se7en |
| 07/19/03 at 22:38:09 |
| as salaamu alaykum wa rahmatullah, sis ayesha, what do u think is insulting bout the lyrics? just curious. wasalaam :-) |
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| AyeshaZ |
| 07/19/03 at 23:04:42 |
| Needs somebody to lean on (lean on) Someone body, mind & soul (body, mind & soul) To take her hand, to take her world And show her the time of her life, so true Throw the pain away for good No more contemplating boo (contemplating [...] No more contemplating boo) I didn't like this particular part.... but i could be totally misinterpreting it... he he as it is a love song soo figures.. just found out that the 2 guys in the band are *Muslim*!!! ;) |
| 07/19/03 at 23:28:08 |
| AyeshaZ |
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| Ruqayyah |
| 07/20/03 at 01:09:44 |
| [slm] that's funny that this song came up, a friend of mine just emailed me a link for the video a couple days ago. it's interesting to see a hijabi in the video. My computer wasn't so great either so i couldn't exactly tell what was going on in the video....but i think the song isn't so bad. like if a guy wrote this about a girl he wanted to marry or even a girl he is married to, i think it would be nice. verse 2 could even be about a mother. perhaps it's different ayeshas, like one's a mom, another's a girl he would want to marry, another's a girl he is married to. or maybe it's the same girl but in different situations, progressing from the girl he likes to being married to her to having children w/ her. but that's just my opinion. :-* [wlm] ruqayyah |
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| Nisa |
| 07/20/03 at 07:19:36 |
| [slm] Hmmm...not to sure about this one...the sister starts off by wearing hijaab, and then later on in the vid, shes seen without it ??? And the make-up? I'm not even gonna start.... ::) [wlm] |
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| se7en |
| 07/20/03 at 13:40:46 |
| as salaamu alaykum, Hmm.. actually it is a portrayal of many different women.. a hijabi teacher.. a woman (the blonde-ish girl looking in the mirror) who, after some contemplation, puts on the hijab.. the two desi girls shopping for sari's.. the girl listening to music on her headphones.. the older african american sister whose groceries they help pick up... the pregnant mom with the war-affected child.. etc I think you're right Ruqayyah, that it's a portrayal of many different Aicha's. the band is "Outlandish", fron denmark. The lead singer, Isam, is Moroccan, and his boys are Waqas, Pakistani, and Lenny, Cuban. Isam and Waqas are Muslim. The group raps in English, Arabic, Urdu, and Spanish. There are a lot of Islamic themes in their music, if you take a look at the lyrics. btw it's not: [quote]Lord knows the way she feels Everyday in his name she begins [/quote] it's: Lord knows the way she feels Everyday in His name she begins wasalaamu alaykum wa rahmatullah :-) |
| 07/20/03 at 21:06:45 |
| se7en |
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| AyeshaZ |
| 07/20/03 at 18:01:51 |
Lord knows the way she feels Everyday in His name she begins Thanx se7en i fixed it!! Also, watching the video like 4th time!! Soo i totally see the different portrayal of different muslim women.. at first i didn't catch the blondish girl contemplating and putting on the hijab but like 3rd time i did :-X.. Also, in the Video as these Lyrics Lord knows the way she feels Everyday in His name she begins are being sung, you see a sister making du'a... that's nice!!!! And i totally thought that the sr who was wearing hijab in the beginning took it off but that's a different sr!!! |
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| Ameeraana |
| 07/20/03 at 20:10:21 |
| [slm] \ I just noticed, at the end of the video when the mother is closing the bedroom door, there is an illuminated cross with Jesus on it on the wall next to the door. |
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| WhiteSomali |
| 07/20/03 at 22:28:23 |
| [slm] ;D I jus saw that corss after you pointed it out. I guess the las gyal mus not be a Muslimah. I dig tis song anyway, it inspired me to cop a listen ta few more songs by Outlandish. I like If Only and ya'll might wanna try pushin tha tru ya speakers. I don usually listen to this kinda music... I ain even sure wha genre it is, I guess it sorta sounds like some, extremely modified, hip hop. Anotta genre inside hip hop. ;D [slm] |
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| readagain |
| 07/21/03 at 12:52:39 |
| [slm]... there was a song a while back which went something like ayeshaa ayeesha ecoutez moi..that was its chorus..i never saw its video, and now this song instantly reminded me of that one..hmmmm i wonder if its the same song :-[...btw, [quote author=AyeshaZ link=board=kabob;num=1058664582;start=0#0 date=07/19/03 at 22:29:41] [slm] Aisha Aisha - écoutez-moi (let's do this) [/quote] I thought Ecoutez- moi meant , Listen to me ??? ??? |
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| saadia |
| 07/21/03 at 14:10:50 |
| [slm] I have no comment about the video....but the cross at the end was a lil weird....I heard this song back in the day, the original is by *i think* Khalid, he's Algerian I believe, and the original song is French. A few years ago a friend of mine did a semester abroad in France and she said he was huuuuge there.... [quote]Aisha Aisha - écoutez-moi (let's do this) I thought Ecoutez- moi meant , Listen to me [/quote] You're right, it does mean listen to me btw ;) |
| 07/21/03 at 14:16:37 |
| saadia |
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| UmmZaid |
| 07/29/03 at 02:24:19 |
| [slm] The song by Outlandish uses the same melody as the song by Cheb Khaled, but the lyrics of the original have a different meaning. The original French language song is your basic love "I'll give you diamonds and pearls and jewels and the sun and the moon, if you just love me O most beautiful Aicha" type of stuff. BTW, the lyrics that I am pasting here don't include the Arabic parts he included when he recorded it... basically, it's the same "I'll die for you my love," stuff only in Algerian dialect... This song was the second hit outside of the Arabic speaking audience for Khaled (the first was "Didi," the single most annoying club song I have ever heard in my entire life), and this song made him a star with non Arab Europeans. AICHA écrite par J.J Goldman Comme si je n'existais pas, elle est passée à côté de moi Sans un regard, reine de "Saba", j'ai dit Aïcha prends tout est pour toi Voici les perles les bijoux, aussi l'or autour de ton cou Les fruits, biens mûrs au goût de miel, ma vie, Aïcha si tu m'aimes J'irai où ton souffle nous mène, dans les pays d'ivoire et des baignes J'effacerai tes larmes ou tes peines, rien n'est trop beau pour une si belle Aïcha, Aïcha écoute moi, Aïcha, Aïcha t'en vas pas Aïcha,Aïcha regarde moi, Aïcha, Aïcha réponds-moi Je dirai les mots les poèmes, je jouerai les musiques du ciel Je prendrai les rayons du soleil, pour éclairer tes yeux de reine Aïcha, Aïcha écoute moi, Aïcha, Aïcha t'en vas pas Aïcha,Aïcha regarde moi, Aïcha, Aïcha réponds-moi Refrain Elle m'a dit: "Garde tes tresors, moi je vaux mieux que tout ça Des barreaux sont des barreaux, même en or Je veux les mêmes droits que toi Du respect pour chaque jour, moi je ne veux que de l'amour " Comme si je n'existai pas, elle est passée à côté de moi Sans un regard, reine de "Saba"é, j'ai dit Aïcha prends tout est pour toi Aïcha, Aïcha écoute moi, Aïcha, Aïcha écoute moi Aïcha, Aïcha t'en vas pas, Aïcha, Aïcha, regarde moi Aïcha, Aïcha réponds moi, Aïcha, Aïcha écoute moi Aïcha, Aïcha t'en vas pas, Aïcha, Aïcha, regarde moi Aïcha, Aïcha répond moi, Aïcha, Aïcha écoute moi Aïcha, Aïcha t'en vas pas, Aïcha, Aïcha, regarde moi |
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| tawbah |
| 07/30/03 at 23:00:03 |
| assalamu alaikum, i think the fact that muslim women are portrayed positively in a non-islamic song deserves some credit. the lyrics show that muslim women who seek modesty through the hijab do not compromise their outward grace and their femininity. the images in the video also provide moral support for their religious observance, their struggle for acceptance in society as professionals and as mothers etc. these are all qualities for which they are admired in this song. but i was having a discussion about this elsewhere and i got a really damning response for advertising this link: ------------------------- asalamu alaikum, To put this in a loving way and not to be harsh- I don't think that objectifying our sisters in the way this video does is doing a service to muslims. I wonder if Allah SWT would be happy to see muslim women, dressed "modestly", parading in love songs to be gawked at by men. It is the antithesis of hijab- not to mention that if the singers were muslims, they should have enough sense not to be telling the world, on top of enjoining in un-Islamic singing, that our sisters can be used as objects and judged only at face value. --------------------- i was wondering what you guys think, i mean does the song encourage gawking over the woman you love, and hence leading to pre-marital relations etc? |
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| jannah |
| 07/30/03 at 23:11:47 |
| [wlm] bro to each his own... i thought it was doing the opposite of objectifying sisters... actually trying to show the beauty of hijab and inner strength of muslim women.. but there will always be those who object for one reason or another...also there are ppl who how should i say that don't understand music videos nor the music nor the message... just like say someone who doesn't understand poetry very much goes and reads something and draws their own conclusions... are their conclusions wrong? i would say yes, but i'm sure they'd disagree ;) |
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| Maliha |
| 07/31/03 at 07:51:46 |
| [slm] i don't know...i was pretty surprised to see the link here me self...especially right after i clicked on it and realized it's like a music video? :-[ i didn't see much of it after that, so I honestly can't judge the content. i understand there is the whole issue of Dawah, image portrayal etc but do we have to use "their" means to do "our" dawah? The whole issue of music is very contentious in Islam, but love songs?? I don't know a single scholar that ruled in favor of these mushy,can't live without you crap..so it's really a disservice to the whole cause to put a muslim woman/women in a video and have a guy "admire" them, love them or whatever. I don't know sometimes we really want to show how much we are like "everyone" else that we might end up in the gray areas or worse transgressing... Two yard sticks for measuring and each one has their comfort levels..but our imam said if you can't begin a task w/ Bismillahi Rahmani Raheem i.e. sealing the task with Allah's approval and seeking His name, then pretty much stay away from it. (invoking Allah's name solemnly b/4 watching a music video is pretty iffy to me) :-[ is it something you would "discuss" or "invite" someone you really really respect religiously to watch and partake in...i.e. if the Rasul [saw] were alive, would you be like hey check it out:) or more pragramatically a Sh. Mukhtar etc. most prolly not..(at least in my case)... anywho i know all this would sound wack to some of you..so please forgive me if I managed to offend you. Wa Allahu Ta'ala A'alam. sis, Maliha :-) [wlm] |
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| deenb4dunya |
| 07/31/03 at 14:21:33 |
| Assalamu Alaikum, [quote]i understand there is the whole issue of Dawah, image portrayal etc but do we have to use "their" means to do "our" dawah? [/quote] [quote]I don't know sometimes we really want to show how much we are like "everyone" else that we might end up in the gray areas or worse transgressing... [/quote] SubhaanAllaah.. what about Muslim Rap? Would that also be using their means for our dawah? Some of it is swalloable.. but some stuff sounds *exactly* like regular rap with a few 'Allaahs', 'Islams' sprinkled here and there ::) What'd y'all think? [quote]Two yard sticks for measuring and each one has their comfort levels..but our imam said if you can't begin a task w/ Bismillahi Rahmani Raheem i.e. sealing the task with Allah's approval and seeking His name, then pretty much stay away from it. (invoking Allah's name solemnly b/4 watching a music video is pretty iffy to me) is it something you would "discuss" or "invite" someone you really really respect religiously to watch and partake in...i.e. if the Rasul were alive, would you be like hey check it out or more pragramatically a Sh. Mukhtar etc. most prolly not..(at least in my case)... anywho i know all this would sound wack to some of you..so please forgive me if I managed to offend you. Wa Allahu Ta'ala A'alam. [/quote] Very interesting... I like :-X Wassalamu Alaikum, Deen :-) |
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| mahdiah |
| 08/02/03 at 18:02:33 |
| [slm] Being a young hijabi woman myself, i thought it was really nice to see a video that portrays all that a mulim woman can be (from the teacher, to the blond girl doing her woodo before putting on her hijab, to young girls to an african woman ect..) I think it should be seen as a positive thing a group of young men are trying to do. Instead of the usual booty shakin' short skirted girls we see in music videos, this one talks about the admiration and love they feel for hijabi women. A friend's younger sister (who doesnt wear the hijab yet) said something like "wow it makes me wanna wear the hijab!" after seeing it for the first time..so it must not be that bad right.. :P |
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| al-Hudaa |
| 08/02/03 at 19:29:53 |
| Assalaamu alaikum i just watched the video. I cant quite understand why they depicted the cross in the child's bedroom at the end of the clip...anyone can shed some light? wassalaam |
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| mahdiah |
| 08/02/03 at 23:22:38 |
| [slm] About the cross: A young girl gets home at night and goes and kisses goodnight to her young brother before getting in bed to read what i think may be the Quran. Then once she fell alsleep, her mother comes and kisses her goodnight before closing the door. I think the point of it is a young girl from a christian family (hence the cross) reading the quran because either she is muslim or is taking interest in islam and wants to become a "aisha", a muslim.......i dunno thats what i thought while watching the video, what do you think? ;) |
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| Mbreeze7 |
| 08/04/03 at 23:58:16 |
| Does anyone know where i can get a listen to the entire CD or some of their other songs? |
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| jannah |
| 08/05/03 at 00:13:57 |
| [wlm] Download kazaa or other file sharing software or you could always order from Amazon UK. |
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| Mbreeze7 |
| 08/05/03 at 00:24:34 |
| Being that they are supporting Muslims (in their own way) I am thinking we should support them by actually buying their CD or downloads and not just ripping them off on Kazaa. So there is no way of ordering them within the US? |
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| jannah |
| 08/05/03 at 00:50:20 |
| [wlm] you can't order it in the US, you have to go to the http://www.amazon.co.uk website and order it from there and ask them to deliver it to the US |
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| Trustworthy |
| 08/06/03 at 19:48:29 |
| [slm] Hmm. I love music. I admit it. I love all kinds of music in all languages. I listen to English, Cambodian, Vietnamese, Chinese, Punjabi, Hindi, Spanish, French, Arabic and anything that's music to my ears. I've got a few CDs here and there and some I don't understand what they're saying but they sound sweet. Aicha was sweet. IMHO I think they are portraying that Aicha is a true women so respect her and treat her well....around the world Aichas are everywhere. Our mothers, sisters, daughters, neighbors, whatever and all religions even Muslim women, especially Muslim women. And the guy says "Sisters" and in his song that's how depicts all women, as his sisters, so he would do anything for his sister. Protect and so on so she won't ever get hurt or anything like that b/c women are sweet. Treat her right and then you'll see her as an Aicha. So I finally listened and got interested in the band and looked around. Found their biography, discography, etc. I don't know about them *shakes head* They're "iffy" pour moi. Ecoutez-moi: Listen to me. Ecouter: to listen. Ma-asalaaia... |
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| Blackswan |
| 08/11/03 at 00:09:59 |
| [slm] *Please admins and mods dont bann mee 4 this* I dont understand why muslims listen such so music with doubfull lyrics ... [wlm] |
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| deenb4dunya |
| 08/11/03 at 00:34:17 |
| Assalamu Alaikum, [quote]*Please admins and mods dont bann mee 4 this* I dont understand why muslims listen such so music with doubfull lyrics ... [/quote] :-/ :-/ Don't worry... the mods are nice.. they won't bann you for that ;) Wassalamu Alaikum, Deen :-) |
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| Nomi |
| 08/12/03 at 06:29:15 |
| [slm] Me used to love music too, me too watched/listened to all sorts of "musequee", me had a collection of CDS too. But when me realized that "most" of it was haraam then i thought of disposing (trashing) it but then i thought that because the CDs had pictures of Human Beans on them and many had pictures of Fe-Human Beans on them so i made them "damage oZone!" Now Environment Protection Activists are searching for me. [slm] Asim Zafar |
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| salsabiil |
| 08/24/03 at 04:12:09 |
| [slm]...i know outlandish personaly.......in fact we went to the same high school and the song was a tribute to us muslim girls after beeing dissed by some danish politiciens for wearing hijab and jelbab!....... [wlm] |
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| se7en |
| 08/25/03 at 02:36:58 |
| as salaamu alaykum wa rahmatullah, We had a Muslim artist as a guest speaker at an MSA event last semester.. she studied art formally in Italy and other places, and specialized in mosaic tiles.. her work is beautiful, masha'Allah, the type of detailed and intricate work you see on masajid built hundreds of years ago. She talked a lot about the careful code of legislation followed by those who produce Islamic art.. not just staying away from the portrayal of animate objects, but other basic principles.. such as making sure the work has continuity and flow.. harmony, symmetry, natural and not jarring colors, with an emphasis on blue and green.. basically in line with the creation of Allah [swt], and the patterns that are found in nature. She then went on to talk about the difference between "Islamic" art - that which is in accordance to these guidelines and principles.. and "Muslim" art -- art which is created by a Muslim, but is perhaps out of line with this code, and more personal, expressive of an individual's experience, personality and self. Whereas "Islamic art" has no signature - no reflection of the author, "Muslim art" is all about the individual who created it. I think that's the same here. Obviously this isn't "Islamic art".. but I certainly believe it's *Muslim*. I don't think it's a religious expression, as much as it's a personal one, and I think it's interesting for that reason. I find it cool that they are willing to express their faith instead of ascribing to a two-facedness, or hiding their identity and religious affiliation. That is not a judgement on their chosen profession, their lives, or even their music.. but just a comment on why I found their stuff interesting. Also, I do think it's nice to see a positive portrayal of Muslim women in media, as opposed to the usual portrayal of a Muslim woman as oppressed, uneducated, devoid of femininity, and subjugated. We encounter these images so much we internalize them.. and even though we know better, it's refreshing to see an alternative. Allahu a'lam. wasalaamu alaykum |
| 08/25/03 at 02:45:26 |
| se7en |
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| tryharder |
| 08/30/03 at 16:15:35 |
| [slm] I dont think this song is meant to be a nasheed in any respect. I think they are just trying to point out and support women in all cultures, all lifestyles and recognize the struggles we go through in life. I missed the part about the woman tucking in her child with the cross on the wall going to read Qur'an. But keep in mind, one of the band members is Cuban and probably Catholic and that crucifix is very 'catholic' looking! [quote]Does anyone know where i can get a listen to the entire CD or some of their other songs? [/quote] Kazaa is a good resource for listening/downloading -- also you can find the lyrics on http://www.lyricschart.com/album.php?a=2600 . Some of the songs are so fast they are hard to understand, so you can read what they are saying there. Also, they have translated most of the Spanish lyrics on that site. I will warn you guys though -- there is a little bit of profanity in some (not all) their songs. There is one song you guys should hear/read -- Life is a Loom. I dont like the song itself that much, but the lyrics are fantastic!!! They also touch on a lot of cultural issues (mixing Islam and culture) like in "If Only". They are pretty talented guys, masha Allah -- I kinda wish they would do some real nasheeds. They would turn out really well. Speaking of nasheeds, does anyone know where I can get some good ones online or something?? There is nowhere that I know of in Colorado to buy CDs. :'( |
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| Nisa |
| 08/30/03 at 19:01:29 |
| [slm] [quote]Speaking of nasheeds, does anyone know where I can get some good ones online or something?? There is nowhere that I know of in Colorado to buy CDs. [/quote] Sis tryharder.....heres an excellent online store you could give a visit inshaAllah :-* : [url]http://www.islamicbookstore.com/audio-songs-nasheeds-tape-cd.html[/url] Hope this helps inshaAllah [wlm] :-) |
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