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Maliha
07/27/03 at 06:44:51
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[i] Has anyone looked into the recent 9/11 "declassified" documents...of course aside from admitting that the CIA and FBI are pretty incompetent despite the glossified hollywood image of their "amazing, all seeing, all hearing power" blah... yeah, aside from that..now Saudi Arabia is being directly implicated for "funding the activities of the Hijackers". It's interesting that this particular piece of information has been leaked, BUT not officially de-classified. It's like the pentagon+ media cheerleaders are waiting for just the right time to declassify this stuff and make a big deal about, and prolly use the same bully and attack methology they seem to be so good at.
Not quite yet though...
for ofcourse the US gotta wait for just enough time for the Iraq chaos to become boring to the public (locally and internationally), Just like Afghanistan eventually died down, then the new orders will be brought down.
Okay of course you all can accuse me of sheer post fajr speculation..but it's just a really scary trend that we see. One of the things at the retreat Shaykh Mukhtar kept saying everytime he mentioned the Kaabah is "please pray for the Haram". It really scared me then, and it petrifies me now watching the unfolding of the end of time.
May Allah safeguard and protect us and make us amongst the Salihoon (Amin).  
Here's the article that goes into the incompetence of the FBI/CIA and the subtle accusations of Saudi Arabia: [url=http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0725-04.htm]The 9/11 Investigation.[/url]

sigh...
it's too early in the morning to be depressed.

Sis,
Maliha
[wlm][/i]

07/27/03 at 06:46:05
Maliha
Re: Beginning of the End...
faisalsb
07/27/03 at 07:50:33
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Sister Maliha your concerns are correct and all the muslims are concerned about so called New World Order of US. But I think we don't need to worry about Haram or Madina since those are the only two cities whose protection Allah Subhanwa Tallah kept in his own hands. Anybody intend to attack any of those two cities WILL be buried alive. This is what happened when Abraha tried to do so. I wish they dare to do so, if they did it will be start of new era of Islam. But according to hadiths that's only Dajal who will dare to attack Macca and Madina but couldn't do so and all the armies which would be sent will be buried alive while they were few miles away of those two cities. But I am agreed the symptoms look like the things are going that way one of the sign before Imam Mahdi will appear is that Syria will be under control of Christians and recent threats by US to Syria and Iran do tell us something.

But I think no need to be hopeless since that's not the quality of a Momin. We need to work hard and do something practical to ease the situation rest is in hands of Allah Subhan Wa Tallah and he never let Salheen to be defeated.
Re: Beginning of the End...
lucid9
07/27/03 at 08:10:32
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No need to feel hopeless. There are still something like 1.3 billion muslims.  And think about the last century.  Almost the whole muslim world was ruled by the British, and they were a lot worse than the guys trying to control things today.  So things have actually started to get better.  You might think that at least there weren't foreign powers controlling the Hijaz and Mecca and Madina.  But the british are the ones who determined the rulers of the Hijaz and Makkah and Madina.  I mean without british support, do you think the al  Saud family would control Saudia Arabia?

Things are getting better insha Allah.  I mean look at turkey.  Name me the government most sympathetic to islam in the whole world and which is not extremely corrupt.  In some senses it is turkey, the former bastion of secularism, the former leader of islamophobia.  Amazing? Huh?!  People plan, but Allah also plans, and Allah is the best of planners!
Re: Beginning of the End...
timbuktu
07/27/03 at 09:06:01
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brother, most of what u have said is true, but dont fall victim to propaganda.

[quote]I mean without british support, do you think the al  Saud family would control Saudia Arabia?[/quote]

the relationship between the British & Saud was a little more complex. The British clients were the Hashemites. Saud managed to play it so that the British tolerated him.
Re: Beginning of the End...
Caraj
07/27/03 at 13:27:48
I heard about this New World Order thing and it refer Bush Sr.
But never really paid any attention to it years ago.
Can someone please see if they can find me maybe an old news artical or something to read up on it about.
Thank you.

The more I have learned the last couple years the more I am mad at myself for not paying attention to things the last 20 years.
I think with people so busy working and always wanting better, jobs, schools, families, they get so busy some don't pay attention.
Maybe our government counts on that.

I mean look at the bills of new laws to be signed like 500 and 1,000 pages and all for a law you can put in one or two pages.

Anyway can someone please find me something to read on the NWO thing. I would very much appreciate it.
Re: Beginning of the End...
Nomi
07/27/03 at 17:28:40
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[quote author=lucid9 link=board=ummah;num=1059299092;start=0#2 date=07/27/03 at 08:10:32]

And think about the last century.  Almost the whole muslim world was ruled by the British, ....

Things are getting better insha Allah..... [/quote]

Hey dont worry, i'm not AGAIN gonna disagree with you here :P.

Thats exactly what i talk to my friends about, like things are getting better and worst has by gone.... may be !!!
Re: Beginning of the End...
deenb4dunya
07/27/03 at 20:14:33
Assalamu Alaikum,

[quote]Sister Maliha your concerns are correct and all the muslims are concerned about so called New World Order of US. But I think we don't need to worry about Haram or Madina since those are the only two cities whose protection Allah Subhanwa Tallah kept in his own hands. Anybody intend to attack any of those two cities WILL be buried alive. [/quote]

Isn't the destruction of the kaabah one of the major sins of the Day of Judgement?

Wassalamu Alaikum,
Deen :-)
Re: Beginning of the End...
faisalsb
07/28/03 at 01:20:38
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Well Sister deenb4dunya there is sequence of predictions what Holy Prophet  [saw] explained will become true before the day of judgement. One of those predictions is that when muslims will be at their worst and being humiliated by non muslims then Imam Mahdi will appear. He will be Arab and his name will be Mohammad and his father name will be Abdullah. He will unite all the muslims and non muslim forces will be defeated one by one. Since he will be true Caliph of all the muslims so he will make Madina as his capital and from there troops would be sent where ever muslims would be oppressed. That's the time when there will be war in Hind which is called Ghazwa Hind and all non muslim forces will be defeated in that area. Mean while Dajjal will appear and Imam Mahdi will send troops to kill him but all the muslim armies who will be sent will be defeated and he will start occuping muslim areas but couldn't occupy Madina and Macca. All the armies which will be sent to occupy Madina and Macca by Dajjal will be burried alive. That's the time when Eisa (as) will appear while Imam Mahdi will be leading prayer in mosque of Syria. And arrival of Eisa (as) will be witnessed by whole world. Eisa (as) will act according to Sharia of Holy Prophet  [saw] and decide according to his  [saw] sharia. He will kill pig and break the cross. He will also kill Dajjal and before he depart from this world like all other human beings, all the world will be muslim and no non muslim will be left in world. After his departure muslims will start getting in to the same problems and people will start converting to other religions again. The time will come that there will be no muslim left on the earth and that's the time of day of judgement when every thing will be destroyed but it will be by Allah Subhan wa tallah himself not by any human being.
07/28/03 at 01:22:45
faisalsb


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