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| Kathy |
| 08/13/03 at 10:20:53 |
| [slm] As I was looking at the selections the sisters were choosing in the Akwhat, I was wondering what the men like. Do you want to see your bride in a hot red dress, or a more soft pink dress? I know in the American culture, many men say they like thier woman make up free... however many gravitate tword the dolled up gals. How about the brothers? When your wife comes to you... do you want the make up or the all natural? |
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| Nomi |
| 08/13/03 at 11:01:19 |
| [slm] I'd prefer the natural looks, no doll stuff. I would like to see her the way she'd be in days to come, furthermore i dont want to be like "yikesss" when the doll wakes up! (no offense) Keep it natural sisters, to me you look good that way. When it'll be "my turn" i'll most definitly float the idea. |
| 08/13/03 at 16:27:02 |
| Nomi |
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| Tesseract |
| 08/13/03 at 20:17:10 |
| Assalamu 'alaikum, [quote]How about the brothers? When your wife comes to you... do you want the make up or the all natural? [/quote] The all natural look is the best, but a little make up is no harm either. Some sisters probably don't know either how to wear make-up or how much make up to wear, that's what I don't like. Light make-up, if any, that's all I am for. In general, one should try to be moderate :). That's for brothers too when it comes to dressing and hair-styling. Wassalam. |
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| bhaloo |
| 08/14/03 at 09:39:52 |
| [slm] [quote author=Bulwark of Islam link=board=bro;num=1060780853;start=0#2 date=08/13/03 at 20:17:10]That's for brothers too when it comes to dressing and hair-styling. .[/quote] Fashion tips for brothers. ;) Bulwark of Islam, can you give some examples of extreme dressing and extreme hair-styling, so we brothers can watch out for such pitfalls. :) |
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| BroHanif |
| 08/14/03 at 15:44:03 |
| Salaams, [quote]Keep it natural sisters, to me you look good that way. [/quote] Wait until I speak to you again. How many have you been looking at hey! Nah I agree with Nomi keep it simple but s**y opps sorry beautiful. Thers also nothing wrong with using foundation creams and stuff but it dosen't have to cost the earth. And I guess your not really bothered what ever dress the bride has got on as long as you can talk late into the night without any restrictions, I could go on but then its a bros only topic. Salaams Hanif |
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| UmmWafi |
| 08/14/03 at 23:05:49 |
| [slm] Dearest Sis Kathy, I think I can sum up best this question by the following example. Scenario 1 : Wife puts on make up cos they have a walimah to attend (wife is rather good at make up). She is naturally made up and her eyes look larger than normal (cos she is wearing contacts). Wife ask husband "How do I look dear ?" He look at her and say "Nice" Scenario 2 : Wife just finished cleaning her face for the nite. Face is bare of make up and glasses back in place. Wife ask husband "How do I look?" Husband glanced at wife and say "Nice". Let's just say I know the above main characters. Very well..hrummpphhh I rest my case ;D Personally, I feel cleanliness is more important than make up. Best of all, to me the most beautiful faces are the ones glistened by wudhu' and peaceful. Wassalam. |
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| Nomi |
| 08/15/03 at 07:45:12 |
| [slm] [quote] Scenario 1 : and her eyes look larger than normal (cos she is wearing contacts). Wife ask husband "How do I look dear ?" He look at her and say ... [/quote] <me will say to her> Deary the gathering is segregated so its fine but on our way there you should cover your face too coz you are wearing make up and hence adorned your face! [quote] Scenario 2 : Face is bare of make up and glasses back in place. Wife ask husband "How do I look?" Husband glanced at wife and say ... [/quote] <me will say to her> Ya junaida haza tayyab kabeer, ana bahebik :P [quote] Personally, I feel cleanliness is more important than make up. Best of all, to me the most beautiful faces are the ones glistened by wudhu' and peaceful. [/quote] MashAllah, well said. So thats why ppl appreciate you so much in here :) |
| 08/15/03 at 07:48:15 |
| Nomi |
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| samr |
| 08/15/03 at 10:21:25 |
| [slm] speaking of that thing....................... well there r many things we should note abat who men and women look there r 2 eyes in each person but many ways 2 look at his/hers face/body well heres the list I made ;D 1.there r a view how we think we look like 2.the second view is how we WANT 2 look like 3.when we look at the mirror we c ouer face in 2d just the front of it but thats not the only view:forenstens when i was shoping clouts wanted 2 test 2 trouses and in the test room there was 3 mirrors or more cant rememba but then i got a uportunety 2 look at my self in 3D the normal way ppl look at me and i got a litle bit sceard from my self :-/ 4.the view we pretend 2 have 5.and finely the importante when we r going 2 die we r going 2 c a person in the begining of ouer life in the grave. and this person look like no he/she IS what we done so insted of taking on make up or fixing the hair fix the view of the person u r going 2 look at in da grave if u r good then this person is going 2 have a gr8 look : nice hair brighty face and with sucha smile and the smell is as good as the smell of "almesk" a really cool view and a really nice person that u wold stay and talk 2. note this person look like what u done and i dont like 2 describe how the kaffir look like i maby find the link 2 these lesson thanx 4 taking time and reading JAZAKUM A.L.L.A.H.U 5airan jamee3a [] |
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| samr |
| 08/15/03 at 10:35:43 |
| ops herz the real one http://www.islamway.com/bindex.php?section=lessons&lesson_id=2336&scholar_id=69&series_id=50 but it take a litle time tills u hear that so u have 2 listen 2 the hole lesson |
| 08/15/03 at 10:58:17 |
| samr |
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| Tesseract |
| 08/15/03 at 18:53:22 |
| Assalamu 'alaikum, [quote]Bulwark of Islam, can you give some examples of extreme dressing and extreme hair-styling, so we brothers can watch out for such pitfalls. :)[/quote] Like, if u always *have* to buy branded clothes, that's an extreme. Like u wear bright red/green/yellow, maybe even purple coloured shirts, to me, that's another extreme. Like u *have* to go for an expensive hair salon to get a special hair-style, or u spend hundreds of dollars monthly on those gels and hair dye things or other cosmetic items to have Brad Pitt or some other Hollywood star hair-style, these are extremes. But, please, that's my personal opinion. Don't be offended if anyone here wears bright red shirt or some other colour that I mentioned, and happens to have read my post :) Different people have different choices. Also, about the hair style thing, like there are some brothers who come to mosque with such weird, lengthy hair or have a hair-style that makes them shake their head everytime they get up from sujood, or like they have to set their hair with their hands every 5 seconds when they are in qiyaam during salaat. These things bother the person praying next to u, but only if they could understand. I hope u get my point bhaloo :). Sis. Kathy's question reminded me of something. Back in Pakistan, a bride can have make up and dress for her wedding that can cost hundreds of thousands of rupees. Like, a female can have make-up done from a beauty parlour that can cost Rs. 30,000 which is merely $500 (when converted), but considering the poverty in Pakistan, and then looking at Rs.30,000 make-up done for one night, maybe for few hours only, I personally feel, things are being blown out of proportion. Although not sure about States, but I am guessing, big cities (like Houston, Dallas, L.A, NY to name a few) must be having some beauty parlours that must be charging a lot for make-up and other beautifying things or whatever. I just have a question for the brothers. Do u think it is worth spending so much money for make up that lasts only few hours, and a dress that a sister wears only once in her life ? Brothers' opinion wanted. Wassalamu 'Alaikum. |
| 08/15/03 at 18:55:10 |
| Tesseract |
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| Barr |
| 08/15/03 at 21:31:39 |
| [slm] [quote]Like, a female can have make-up done from a beauty parlour that can cost Rs. 30,000 which is merely $500 (when converted), [/quote] Maybe a bit off topic... But how much do you brothers usually spend for a wedding? Everything inclusive, the walimah, the door gifts, the cards, the clothes, the mahr and even the weird hairdo ;) Wassalam :-) |
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| superFOB |
| 08/16/03 at 11:57:03 |
| [quote author=Barr link=board=bro;num=1060780853;start=0#11 date=08/15/03 at 21:31:39]But how much do you brothers usually spend for a wedding?[/quote] heh, I don't know. But this friend of mine who just had his 16th nikah (after his 7th wife died of an overdose), says that it's not very expensive, and its worth every penny. |
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| faisalsb |
| 08/17/03 at 07:34:42 |
| [slm] [quote]How about the brothers? When your wife comes to you... do you want the make up or the all natural? [/quote] Honestly speaking I didn't like my wife with that expensive dress which needs helpers to carry it. Neither I liked the traditional makeup what she was wearing I think she looked better after she changed and washed her face. By the way "ALL NATURAL?" can have dual meaning here ............;) Well I don't like over weight people either men or women. I think being over wieght is sign of being lazy. There might be some exceptions but I think usually that's the case. |
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| Nomi |
| 08/17/03 at 16:52:46 |
| [slm] [quote author=Faisal Siddique link=board=bro;num=1060780853;start=0#12 date=08/17/03 at 07:34:42] By the way "ALL NATURAL?" can have dual meaning here ............ [/quote] SubhanAllah, how open of you ::) Bro Hanif, that leaves just the two of us........ Naah.... there "are" more so no worries! |
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| UmmWafi |
| 08/19/03 at 01:32:45 |
| [wlm][quote author=Nomi link=board=bro;num=1060780853;start=0#6 date=08/15/03 at 07:45:12] <me will say to her> Deary the gathering is segregated so its fine but on our way there you should cover your face too coz you are wearing make up and hence adorned your face![/quote] Egad ! An AGENDA in the midst ! Reminds me of a piece I read. "Ya habibiy ya hijabee I love you with your thingy, but when I see a niqabee, I think you ain't the houri." Ok, don't scream people, it was a composition by a 13 year old boy in a funnee mag for Muslim teens. *Looks at Nomi and wonders..........* :o [quote]<me will say to her> Ya junaida haza tayyab kabeer, ana bahebik :P[/quote] This is a job for SuperBhaloo. Agent B come in Agent B...we need serious decoding work here. (Mannn I do wish the software allows transliteration of words) [quote]MashAllah, well said. So thats why ppl appreciate you so much in here :)[/quote] Astarghfirullah........ On a lighter note, for a non-niqabee I can make a mean batch of pineapple and almond muffins muahahahahahahahahahah Wassalam |
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| BrKhalid |
| 08/19/03 at 06:41:11 |
| Asalaamu Aalikum ;-) [quote]Do u think it is worth spending so much money for make up that lasts only few hours, and a dress that a sister wears only once in her life ? Brothers' opinion wanted.[/quote] [quote]But how much do you brothers usually spend for a wedding? Everything inclusive, the walimah, the door gifts, the cards, the clothes, the mahr and even the weird hairdo[/quote] Good questions. Not sure about the answers though ;) But seriously, I think weddings are one of those areas where people have to step back and be objective as to what they can afford. It would be stupidity for one who was poor to spend huge amounts on a lavish wedding and find themselves being in debt. Equally it would be wrong for one who Allah has given abundant wealth to limit the number of guests at his wedding to a small number on the grounds of trying to be austere. There cannot be a single answer because everyone has their own circumstances. However, there can be a general principle in as much as that one should not be too extravagant or niggardly given one’s situation. And, as ever, intention plays a pivotal role. What is sad though, are those Brothers & Sisters who remained unmarried because others have a preconception as to what their wedding should be like. |
| 08/19/03 at 06:42:49 |
| BrKhalid |
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| Nomi |
| 08/19/03 at 06:56:04 |
| [slm] BroHanif, i hope you wont mind me joking around with an elderly lady :P [quote author=UmmWafi link=board=bro;num=1060780853;start=0#14 date=08/19/03 at 01:32:45] On a lighter note, for a non-niqabee I can make a mean batch of pineapple and almond muffins [size=3]muahahahahahahahahahah[/size] [/quote] I took it as a joke and will answer accordingly i.e. with a joke... :) There is another benefit that comes with niqab i.e. ppl dont get scared when you do that muhahahahahah thingie. [i]Nomi is trying his best NOT to laugh coz he is at work and his colleagues will be freaked out if he does :P[/i] Me is for niqab but me respects your hijab to the full Cyber-Salutes :) |
| 08/19/03 at 11:13:14 |
| Nomi |
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| UmmWafi |
| 08/22/03 at 01:18:34 |
| [wlm] [quote author=Nomi link=board=bro;num=1060780853;start=15#16 date=08/19/03 at 06:56:04] BroHanif, i hope you wont mind me joking around with an elderly lady :P[/quote] Elderly lady ? ELDERLY lady ? *[i]Flexes her knuckles and looks at the punchbag with Nomi's smiling face on it[/i]* What I wanna know is, does Bro Hanif also considers me elderly ? Hrummmpphhh [quote]There is another benefit that comes with niqab i.e. ppl dont get scared when you do that muhahahahahah thingie.[/quote] Ehemm..it has been said that I make a good immitation of The Count of Sesame Street fame and that is a compliment of the highest order mind you :P Wassalam |
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| BroHanif |
| 08/23/03 at 08:18:04 |
| Salaams, [quote]BroHanif, i hope you wont mind me joking around with an elderly lady [/quote] Hey keep me out of this conversation I don't want to get ropped into something that I can't handle. Old is gold I say...didn't you say yor were 21 at our last conversation? I can' remember whether you said you were 21, 21 years ago or 21 right now...oh well don't matter eh. [quote]Ehemm..it has been said that I make a good immitation of The Count of Sesame Street fame and that is a compliment of the highest order mind you [/quote] Oh no another board member with vampirino teeth, I thought I was the only one. Excellant. Anyway I have an excuse for having such teeth, as when I were a wee lad the dentist goes to me in order to correct your [vampire] teeth I need to remove about 7 teeth of yours. I gave him a look like do you think I'm stupid or what. Never again did I go to the dentist... Salaams Hanif |
| NS |
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| Nomi |
| 08/23/03 at 14:59:18 |
| [slm] [quote author=BroHanif link=board=bro;num=1060780853;start=15#18 date=08/23/03 at 08:18:04] didn't you say yor were 21 at our last conversation? I can' remember whether you said you were 21, 21 years ago or 21 right now...oh well don't matter eh. [/quote] Forgetful old man me is in me early 24 :P... (well ppl he sure isn't old :) ) [quote] Oh no another board member with vampirino teeth, I thought I was the only one. [/quote] worths a => :D |
| 08/23/03 at 15:02:44 |
| Nomi |
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| Ameeraana |
| 08/24/03 at 13:14:59 |
| [quote]Well I don't like over weight people either men or women. I think being over wieght is sign of being lazy. There might be some exceptions but I think usually that's the case. [/quote] This is not a very nice way to look at overweight people, in fact, it is very cruel. I exercise to control my weight, but I sure know naturally thin people who never workout that are very lazy and I also know very busy working women taking care of jobs and family who are overweight. I certainly hope your not suggesting that just because one eats too much and become overweight that your image of them is just laying around the house on the couch in front of the TV with food all around them. This reminds me of a friend of mine who is very thin who said, "I dont know why these fat people just don't get up and exercise!!" so I told her, " Ok, girl, if I got you a membership at a gym wanna go and workout with me?" and of course she was like, " NO WAY " -- so I pointed out to her that "just getting up and exercising" is not an easy thing to do whether you are thin or fat. Overeating is not laziness. Ameera |
| 08/24/03 at 13:16:56 |
| Ameeraana |
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| tryharder |
| 08/24/03 at 14:07:38 |
| [slm] [quote] Well I don't like over weight people either men or women. I think being over wieght is sign of being lazy. There might be some exceptions but I think usually that's the case. [/quote] bro, you had to know you were stepping into some hot water when you wrote this?? You do not "LIKE" people who are overweight?? How vain and short-sighted and snobby and proud and judgemental can you be? Didn't Allah create everyone the way they are?? And isn't there beauty in all of his creation????? How can you say you do not like someone because of something that Allah created them with?? You cannot be that educated when it comes to this topic because weight and body type is mostly GENETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i am with Ameera!!! just because you see someone who is overweight, you cannot conclude that that person is lazy! and just because you see a thin person, you cannot conclude that that person is NOT lazy!!! As I said, weight is mostly genetic. But there are other factors as well. For instance -- Do you realize how many serious illnesses (and the medications people take for them) cause people to gain an enormous amount of weight?? There are also habits taught in childhood (and kids are usually the least lazy!!) that contribute to being overweight. AND there are a TON of other factors that affect all this stuff. If you look at my brother and I --- he used to be SOOO slim, in excellent shape! I was a chunk!! Now, I am in better shape than he is!! Not because he is lazy ---- he has his own film production company --- there is NO WAY anyone can call him lazy - it is just how his body is now. And I started working out to get into better shape, because no matter how healthy/little I was eating, I was not getting any better. BUT that doesn't mean I was lazy to get to the point where I was overweight! Half the reason I am the way I am is because I am built like the Norwegian side of my family -- curves everywhere! The other half of the reason I was overweight was because of people like you who told me I was fat when I was 7,8,9,10 years old, when I was a normal little girl!! I had an eating disorder for 10+ years that totally screwed up my metabolism (and other systems in my body) and now I HAVE to work out if I want to be slim. If it weren't for the cruel comments I recieved >:( I would not have been brainwashed into thinking I was fat. Therefore I would not have to worry about it now! Did you ever stop and realize that the United States ALONE spends HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of dollars in the diet/fitness industry and we are STILL the most overweight country?? I beg to differ with your theory that LAZINESS CAUSES OVERWEIGHT!!! Think about it ... |
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| Sparrow |
| 08/24/03 at 14:25:10 |
| Hello All: While I have to agree that saying that one "doesn't like" overweight people is unkind, and that many thin people are indeed lazy, the honest truth is that the majority of people who are overweight could control their weight with a balanced diet and MODERATE exercise. One does not have to hit the gym for two hours a day to remain within the bounds of manageable weight. Less than one percent of overweight people have an illness that makes them gain weight. Medications can cause one to put on weight (especially psychiatric drugs, I think) but that doesn't mean it can't be controlled. Also, alot of illnesses that both kill Americans and put them on medications are illnesses related to being overweight: diabetes, heart disease, some cancers. Most Americans are overweight because they spend their money on get thin quick schemes, when the formula for healthy living is cheap and has been around since time began: healthful food in moderate portions, and moderate physical activity. Sparrow, who used to be a lot bigger than she is now. :P |
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| Nomi |
| 08/24/03 at 14:42:10 |
| - Me is thin but me is lazy!! Me thinks its IT that made me lazy!! Actually me is not *too* lazy as me can still do the fastest sprint among my friends 8), but when i compare myself with the old *sparky* me, i look at myself and say "you ARE lazy" - And i know many thin ppl who are lazy even so than me. - Peace Out ppl :) |
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| Nomi |
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| panjul |
| 08/25/03 at 00:04:36 |
| [slm] but I sure know naturally thin people who never workout that are very lazy and I also know very busy working women taking care of jobs and family who are overweight. I'm thin, and i have *high* cholestorol, the doc said i should exercise......but i'm too lazy now. Gone are the days when i used to run a mile every day....... :( I am too busy with work, school and volunteering... and sleeping. the doc says i'm going to ruin my health and that it will all catch up in a couple of years. I guess because i'm so young (not even in my mid-twenties) it just hasn't scared me yet. Can you get any more lazy than this? |
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| Barr |
| 08/25/03 at 20:45:56 |
| [slm] warahmatullah, I used to have very high cholesterol level. Higher than the obese men at my workplace. When I am particular of my diet, it went down, and when I'm not, it went up. For nearly a year, I haven't been good and was lax in my diet... and I thot I'd reach dangerous levels.. but alhamdulillah, when I did my cholesterol check in July, it actually went down to normal! The nurse said, it is most probably due to stress (or de-stress, rather). And I think she's right, alhamdulillah..., coz I feel much calmer and at peace now. So, anyone who wants to de-stress... come to the June retreat ;) Oh yeah.. and stay away from crustaceans, eggs and all those hi-cholesterol foods, still :) |
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| Ruqyah |
| 09/03/03 at 13:29:17 |
| [slm] brothers and sisters. Back to the whole weddings and make up business, when a close friend of mine got married a couple of years ago, she would have been quite content with a very simple walima and she did not want her family to spend a lot of money on it. So she had the great big, expensive red dress when quite honestly she did not feel comfortable with her family spending so much money on it. Perhaps u are thinking then why did her family spend so much money on it? ??? Her parents. I am a British Pakistani and I have been to such weddings in Pakistan where you wont believe what u are hearing when I tell u. Yes, it is Islamic for the woman to recieve mahr but would u believe me if I told u that the brides family also buy her FURNITURE for what would become her room? And I'm not just talking a bed, I mean fridge, carpet, curtains, TV, wardobes :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o AND the brides family buy all and any of the grooms family 2 sets of clothes, the close family jewelry (even though gold rings are haram for men) and silly little things like mirrors!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o AND even worse, on one of the wedding days , the family shows the guests what they have bought for the grooms family :-[ :-[ :-[ :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o I personally think Some muslims need to realise that culture is no way near as important as religion aferall Islamically it is thought of well to keep things simple. I am still shaking my head in disbelief to this wedding that I attended. P.S. Not all Pakistanis do this I am a pushtun and if there are any pustuns out there, please do not be offended, this is only what I think aferall. |
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| a_lina |
| 09/03/03 at 23:43:36 |
| [slm] Sad but true, sis Ruqyah. And it isn't only a part of pushtun culture. Nearly all pakistani cultures have the same practises. The bedroom furniture must include atleast a bed, a dresser and a wardrobe. And that is only a part of the Jahez ( the gifts from the bride's family to the bride....or shud I say gifts for her new home, whoever is living in it). Sometimes, the groom's family even gives the bride's family a list of all the things they want the bride to bring with her. :o :o :o. But, not all people observe these practices. Some prefer to keep it simple and within the bounds of Islam. [slm] |
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| hayat |
| 09/04/03 at 06:07:47 |
| salam and see, not only in pakistan its like that, also where i come from, thats south india, its exactly the same. i sometimes feel, even worse it is... as the only thing the grooms family gives is the mahr and some sets of dress for the bride and some for the females of the brides family. but the bride herself, respctively her family/parents have to give gold as asked by the grooms family and has to pay most of the marriage ceremony and also the room inclusive furniture and the presents the grooms family asks for for themselves and so on and so on. i really get a shock sometimes over there when attending weddings, especially the amount of gold, its really KILOS of gold (eg one relative, she had five kilos gold for her wedding !! and all on herself, not somewhere in the cupboard, but on herself, so that everyone will be able to see how rich they are, haha! AWful) >:( but the question is, what can one do against such traditional practices? i mean we are just over there on holiday, so its really hard and tough to change ANYthing of the stubborn traditional beliefs of them.... ma3assalama hayat |
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| se7en |
| 09/07/03 at 15:52:18 |
| as salaamu alaykum wa rahmatullah, [quote]I'd prefer the natural looks, no doll stuff. [/quote] [quote] The all natural look is the best[/quote] sorry brothers.. I'm not sure if I believe you :P I think most guys associate makeup with the really over done, tacky look.. and they don't realize that a lot of girls wear makeup that is relatively subtle, and accentuates natural features. one of my friends was telling me about how her husband is so vehement about how much he "hates" make up and the "made up" look.. but whenever she wears lipstick or a bit of eyeliner he's like "wow, you look so pretty today.." ::) I think guys just appreciate the overall look, and don't really understand the subtleties behind it.. prove me wrong :P wasalaamu alaykum :-) |
| 09/07/03 at 15:57:06 |
| se7en |
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