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| missy |
| 08/28/03 at 12:30:01 |
| [slm], I wanted to know, when you miss a prayer, do you have to wait for the next prayer time to make it up? Or can you make it up at the next available chance you get? I want to know because I work from afternoons late into the early morning once a week, and I can't leave my work to pray. I work at a restaurant and can't leave the register area. And we're usually busy from 4 to 10 and pick up again about 11 or so. And other days I work in the morning and we're really busy then...so what should I do about that? |
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| Arabic_Diamond |
| 08/28/03 at 13:50:18 |
| [slm] Praise be to Allaah. It is not permissible for a Muslim to delay his prayers beyond the time when they are due without a legitimate excuse. Legitimate excuses which allow a Muslim to delay his prayers until the time for them is over include sleeping and forgetting. Doing worldly work is not an excuse for not praying or for delaying a prayer until its time is over. Rather one of the characteristics of the sincere believers is that they do not let business or trade distract them from remembering Allaah and establishing regular prayer. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “In houses (mosques) which Allaah has ordered to be raised (to be cleaned, and to be honoured), in them His Name is remembered [i.e. Adhaan, Iqaamah, Salaah (prayers), invocations, recitation of the Qur’aan]. Therein glorify Him (Allaah) in the mornings and in the afternoons or the evenings, 37. Men whom neither trade nor sale (business) diverts from the remembrance of Allaah (with heart and tongue) nor from performing As‑Salaah (Iqaamat‑as‑Salaah) nor from giving the Zakaah. They fear a Day when hearts and eyes will be overturned (out of the horror of the torment of the Day of Resurrection). 38. That Allaah may reward them according to the best of their deeds, and add even more for them out of His Grace. And Allaah provides without measure to whom He wills” [al-Noor 24:36-38] Even though these men engaged in trade, buying and selling, that was no excuse and it did not distract them from giving precedence to “the remembrance of Allaah (with heart and tongue) nor from performing As‑Salaah (Iqaamat‑as‑Salaah) nor from giving the Zakaah.” Rather they made obedience to Allaah and worship of Him their ultimate goal and purpose, and whatever came between them and that goal, they rejected it. Because giving up worldly interests is hard for most people, and earning and various kinds of trade are dear to them, and it is hard for them to give that up in most cases, and to give precedence to the rights of Allaah, Allaah mentions that which will motivate and encourage them, as He says: “They fear a Day when hearts and eyes will be overturned (out of the horror of the torment of the Day of Resurrection)” – because of the intensity of its horrors and suffering. Hence they will fear that Day, so it become easier for them to strive for the Hereafter and give up that which distracts them from it. Tafseer al-Sa’di. Concerning the obligation of offering prayers and the ruling on its timing, Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Verily, As‑Salaah (the prayer) is enjoined on the believers at fixed hours” [al-Nisa’ 4:103]. Shaykh ‘Abd al-Rahmaan al-Sa’di said: This means it is enjoined at its time, which indicates that it is obligatory and that it has a time (to be offered) and is not valid at any other time. These are the times that are well known among the Muslims, young and old, scholars and ignorant. They learned that from their Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) who said: “Pray as you have seen me praying.” The phrase “on the believers” indicates that prayer is the measure of faith, and a the quality of person’s prayers corresponds with his level of faith. Tafseer al-Sa’di. And Allaah says, warning those who delay their prayers until the time for them is over with no legitimate excuse (interpretation of the meaning): “Then, there has succeeded them a posterity who have given up As‑Salaat (the prayers) [i.e. made their Salaat (prayers) to be lost, either by not offering them or by not offering them perfectly or by not offering them in their proper fixed times] and have followed lusts. So they will be thrown in Hell. 60. Except those who repent and believe (in the Oneness of Allaah and His Messenger Muhammad), and work righteousness. Such will enter Paradise and they will not be wronged in aught” [Maryam 19:59-60] And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “So woe unto those performers of Salaah (prayers) (hypocrites), 5. Those who delay their Salaah (prayer from their stated fixed times)” [al-Maa’oon 107:4-5] Ibn Katheer said: It was narrated from Ibn Mas’ood that it was said to him that Allaah mentions prayer a great deal in the Qur’aan: “Those who delay their Salaah (prayer from their stated fixed times)” [al-Maa’oon 107:5] and “Those who remain constant in their Salaah (prayers)” [al-Ma’aarij 70:23] and “and they are constant in guarding their Salaah (prayers)” [al-An’aam 6:92]. Ibn Mas’ood said: (This means) offering prayers at the stated times. They said: We thought that these verses referred to not praying at all. He said: That is kufr. Al-Awzaa’i said, quoting from Ibraaheem ibn Yazeed, that ‘Umar ibn ‘Abd al-‘Azeez recited: “Then, there has succeeded them a posterity who have given up As‑Salaat (the prayers) [i.e. made their Salaat (prayers) to be lost, either by not offering them or by not offering them perfectly or by not offering them in their proper fixed times] and have followed lusts. So they will be thrown in Hell” [Maryam 19:59]. Then he said: “Their giving up their prayers does not mean that they do not pray at all, rather it means that they have given up praying at the proper times.” Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 3/128, 129. So it is not permissible for you to delay your prayers from the proper time based on the excuse of work. If you cannot pray on time at work, then you should leave this job and look for another job which will not cause you to miss your prayers. The wise Muslim should not expose himself to the threat of his Lord and he should not sell his religious commitment for the sake of passing worldly interests. And Allaah knows best. sister u must think about ur deen more than ur dawnea and u must do toeba What is 'Kaffara'? What price should have to be given for 'one raka/ oakt salah' as kaffara?. Whoever omits one or more obligatory prayers with no excuse has to repent to Allaah sincerely, and he does not have to make them up or offer any expiation (kafaarah), because omitting the obligatory prayers deliberately is major kufr, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The covenant that stands between us and them is prayer; whoever gives it up is a kaafir.” Narrated by Ahmad, 22428; al-Tirmidhi, 2621; al-Nasaa’i, 462. And he said: “Between a man and shirk and kufr there stands his giving up prayer.” Narrated by Muslim, 242. There is no expiation for that except sincere repentance. See Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 6/50 Prayer is an act of worship that is to performed at specific times, and whoever does not do an act of worship that is tied to a specific time – such as prayer and fasting – until that time is over, with no excuse, then repents, does not have to make up what he omitted, because this act of worship has been limited by the Lawgiver to the beginning and ending of that time. Fataawa al-Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 1/322. But if a person misses a prayer for a valid excuse such as sleeping or forgetting, his expiation is to offer the prayer when he remembers it, and there is no other expiation required, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever forgets a prayer or sleeps and misses it, let him pray it when he remembers, and there is no other expiation for it but that.” Al-Bukhaari, 572; Muslim, 1564 And Allaah knows best. ********** sis u can explain for ur boss ur acts of worshiping as being a muslim [slm] |
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| Maliha |
| 08/28/03 at 15:39:27 |
| [slm] sis Missy, your predicament is sadly the situation lotsa muslims find themselves in :( May Allah ease your affairs and enable you to fulfill all your obligations without having to "un" balance them. Can you take bathroom breaks while at work? If so, then it may be easy to just go, if you pray just the regular prayer without the sunnahs, that will be approximately 7 minutes. That's not too bad at all. Inshaallah, maybe you can have a conversation with your boss, that at these times, I would need a tiny break to regroup and pray. Most people respect that. At my job, we had fixed lunch breaks....it used to bug me that I had to miss friday prayers, since it was really the only day that i would see my fellow sisters, be with the wider community, etc... But going to the Masjid will mean taking about 2 and a half hours :o cuz of the distance and khutbah etc. My boss was *really* christian so i was kinda intimidated to bring it up to her..but finally after a couple of weeks of feeling really estranged, i mustered up the courage to explain to her my situation and offered an alternative...that i would stay longer after work to make up for the lost time :-[ she was extremely open, and even encouraging. On one Friday, i was running late on a project, she came to my cubicle and asked "aren't you going to prayers today?" and she basically shooed me out :) I was beyond impressed Alhamdullillah. Even later they won't schedule anything on Fridays out of respect for me. I also took breaks to go pray, dhuhr was easy cuz its lunch. But when asr fell at work time, i also had to tell her, lest she started to think i was sneaking out or sumthing. But basically throughout my tenure there she was extremely supportive. Sometimes you may feel the barrier but you would be surprised to realize its really just in your mind. The illusion that people may judge you, criticize you, or you may lose your job..is just that an illusion. Ultimately ALlah is the Provider, and it wouldn't be doing Him justice for us to leave prayer in seeking the provision He is providing for us would it? Just try to have an honest conversation with your supervisor, and implement salat within your workspace and you would feel such relief and expansiveness...Subhana Allah:) also, if all else fails, you may want to peak around for another way to get the cheddar ;) You are in my duahs sis :-* {{{{{huggggssss}}}}} [wlm] :-) |
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| sal |
| 08/28/03 at 17:18:59 |
| [slm] Actauly it is not supposed to miss up a prayer time intentionaly but in case that happens . if you miss a prayer time you dont have to wait for the next prayer time pray as soon as you reognize that you have missed up .the one before that even if the next prayer time is due ,you should first pray the one you have missed ;-) |
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| missy |
| 08/28/03 at 20:04:33 |
| [slm] Thank you all for the advise, I'll have to talk to my boss about it when I see her Tuesday. And why didn't I think of just saying I was in the bathroom or getting supplies from the back...? ??? Must be one of those blonde moments...a really long one too..... :D |
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| Mehak |
| 08/29/03 at 13:52:26 |
| [slm], The kinda job I have, sometimes I can pray and sometimes I cant. But when i do, i noticed my boss never mentioned anything and my coworkers were very supportive.......like give me privacy etc. And its a good way of doing dwah too :-) I would also sugget you try talking to your boss. You shouldnt have to make an excuse Missy. Btw, congrats on becoming a muslim, i dont think i ever got the chance to tell you that. :-* [wlm] and good luck |
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| timbuktu |
| 08/29/03 at 14:42:38 |
| [quote author=missy link=board=madrasa;num=1062084603;start=0#4 date=08/28/03 at 20:04:33] ...... why didn't I think of just saying I was in the bathroom or getting supplies from the back...? ??? Must be one of those blonde moments...a really long one too..... :D [/quote] no sis, do not tell a lie. & you liked my deleted "........." joke! |
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| Nawawi |
| 08/31/03 at 19:57:21 |
| [slm] I agree 100% that, it is impermissible for to leave his salaat without a valid excuse. There is a difference of opinion regarding the whether or not one who misses his salaat is a kaffir or not. And whether or not one make it the salaat outside its prescribed time. [quote author=Arabic_Diamond link=board=madrasa;num=1062084603;start=0#1 date=08/28/03 at 13:50:18] [slm] sister u must think about ur deen more than ur dawnea and u must do toeba What is 'Kaffara'? What price should have to be given for 'one raka/ oakt salah' as kaffara?. Whoever omits one or more obligatory prayers with no excuse has to repent to Allaah sincerely, and he does not have to make them up or offer any expiation (kafaarah), because omitting the obligatory prayers deliberately is major kufr, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The covenant that stands between us and them is prayer; whoever gives it up is a kaafir.” Narrated by Ahmad, 22428; al-Tirmidhi, 2621; al-Nasaa’i, 462. And he said: “Between a man and shirk and kufr there stands his giving up prayer.” Narrated by Muslim, 242. There is no expiation for that except sincere repentance. See Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 6/50 [slm][/quote] [slm] The Above fatwa is saying that it is Major Kufr for one who intentionally leaves his prayer, and that it is not obligatory for a Muslim to make them up. Major Kufr entails that you have left Islam, and that you are no longer a Muslim. Is a person a kafir if he doesn't pray? Shaykh Nuh Ali Salman says, "The Hanafi, Maliki and Shafis all hold that someone who misses the prayer out of laziness does not entail his being an Unbeliever. Imaam Nawawi says, "This what the vast majority of the early and later scholars have held" (Al Majmoo) As for the Hanbalis, they have two views, the first being that such a person becomes an unbeliever and is dealt with as a renegade from Islam, while the second view is that he does not become a unbeliever, and this is what Ibn Qudama, in Al Mughni, has declared to be the soundest opinion. The Shaykh also said, Those who hold that whoever misses a prayer becomes an unbeliever adduce the following evidence: The hadith of Jabir (RA) that he heard the Messenger of Allah [saw] say, “Between a man and shirk and kufr there stands his giving up prayer.” Narrated by Muslim. {added by me: and there are many more.} Then the Shaykh says, Those who hold that wboever neglects a prayer does not thereby become an unbeliever adduce the following evidence: The hadith of Unada ibn Samit (RA) that he heard the Prophet [saw] says, Allah has made five prayers obligatory whoever performs their abultion well and prays them in their time, completing the bowing, the humility and the awe that is due in them, has entered a solemn pact with Allah to forgive him. And whoever does not, has no pact with Allah should He want, He will forgive him and should He want, He will torment him." which is a Sahih hadith related by Abu Dawoud and others through multiple anthentic channels of transmissions. The evidence of the hadith is that the case of someone who does not pray is up to Allah's considered choice, meanng Allah could choose not to torment him, while it is necessarily established that unbelievers will be tormented and enter hell a consideration which with the above hadith indicates that someone who neglects to pray is not an [u]unbeliever.[/u] Also the words of the Prophet, "Whoever dies knowing that there is no god but Allah shall enter paradise," (Muslim) In regards to the obligotry of making up Missed prayers Imam Nawawi stated in his al-Majmu` Sharh al-Muhadhdhab (3.86): “There is consensus (ijma`) of the scholars whose opinion counts that whoever leaves a prayer intentionally must make it up. Abu Muhammad Ali Ibn Hazm differed with them on this, saying that such an individual cannot ever make them up and it is not at all valid to make them up. Rather, he said, one must do much good works and voluntary prayer in order that one’s scales be heavied on the day of judgement and one must seek Allah’s forgiveness and repent. This position of his, along with being in opposition to scholarly consensus (ijma`), is invalid in terms of the proof… Among the proofs for the obligation to makeup is… that if makeup prayers are obligatory for the one who left the prayer forgetfully, then doing so for the one who left the prayer deliberately is more obviously incumbent.” Imam Nawawi is referring here to the hadith related by Anas that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace) said, “Whoever forgets a prayer must perform it when they remember it…” [Bukhari (597), and Muslim (684)] Imaam Nawawi says, "This hadith contains evidnece that the obligatory prayer which has been missed must be made up, regadlress if one left it due to a valid excuse, such as sleep or forgetfulness or due to no valid excuse. the mentions only the excuse of forgetfulness due to it being said after the occurrence of a specfic even but (is to be applied generally.) If it is necessary for one who has a valid excuse to make up the prayer, it is even more so required for the one who has no valid excuse. Therefore, the hadith is informing us of this by means of using the lesser thing to alert to teh greater thing." Imaam Qurtabi said, "The Jurist of the four schools of thought are agreed it is obligatory to make up missed obligatory prayers, regardless of whether one left them due to a valid reason, such as sleep or forgetfulness, or out of negligence and laziness." Ibn Qudamah Based on Imaam Nawawi's rulings, it would be safe to say, during the time of the Salafus Saleh, it was Ijma of Ahlus sunnah that making up the Salaat was obligatory regardless of what the reason was. It wasn't until Ibn Hazm, a follower of the Zahiri Madhab, came with an opposing opinion. This opinion of Ibn Hazm, became embraced by Ibn Taymiyyah and Ibn Qayyim. Even if you follow the opinion of Ibn Hazm, he requires that you increase you optional prayers, in hope that Allah will accept those in exchange for your obligatory prayers. So in theory it is a difference of opinion, in the practical sense you doing the same amount prayers. And Allah knows best. |
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| theOriginal |
| 09/08/03 at 16:22:13 |
| [slm] Did anyone actually answer the question? I didn't read the replies carefully. Anyway, here's a scenario. Let's say you haven't prayed for 4 years of your life since it's been fardh on you. Or let's say you have prayed sporadically, or something. Do you or do you not have to make up these prayers? This was a heated debate I had with my roommate last weekend. We ended up in tears (I swear they put something in our pizza..we're usually pretty level headed). I just need an answer...it might just be relevant to my life. Wasalaam. |
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| jannah |
| 09/08/03 at 17:12:42 |
| [wlm] You should just ask a scholar instead of arguing with each other?? basically as i heard from an imam, there are two main opinions on the subject... one says yes you do have to make them up, the other says no you don't....and both the opinions are very detailed in their explanation and arguments so inshaAllah hopefully u can go to someone u trust and ask... |
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| sofia |
| 09/08/03 at 17:50:14 |
| [slm] [quote]I just need an answer...it might just be relevant to my life. [/quote] As Jannah mentioned, check with someone knowledgeable in your area for details, sister. Br. Muhammad AlShareef mentioned this (ie, whether or not one has to make up past missed prayers) and gave the opinion of some of our fuqahaa during one of his AlMaghrib.or sessions. It pretty much coincided with the Islam Q/A responses below and what sis Jannah mentioned. That if a prayer(s) is missed unintentionally, it should be made up. If a prayer(s) is missed intentionally/out of neglect, there's a difference of opinion. One opinion is to make tawbah and make it up. The other is that it's so serious, it can't be made up, so one should make tawbah and try to make extra/nafl prayers. Allahu A'lim. JAk for the reminder that we all need to take advantage of our time and pray extra while we can, since there will be a Day when the bargainers will not be able to return to their life to pray just 2 raka'at, the value of which will outweigh all of their possessions, and may Allah save us from the trials of the Day of Judgement, aameen. [url=http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=13664&dgn=3]Ruling on making up missed prayers[/url] [url=http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=7969&dgn=3]She missed some prayers in the past - what should she do?[/url] [url=http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=610&dgn=3]Repentance for neglecting prayer[/url] |
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