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Come 2 learn Arabic
Arabic_Diamond
09/04/03 at 13:22:19
As I promise I'll teach u Arabic but
if u show interaction I'll complete   if u don't  I'll be  :o  and  :(

1st lesson u must learn these Arabic Alaphapets


[img]http://www.arab7.com/up/file/1062695465.jpg[/img]


G ;D ;D d luck
Re: Come 2 learn Arabic
WhiteSomali
09/04/03 at 16:47:01
[slm] ;D

Sis you're great ;D

Just need to ask one thing. Is Dha pronounced with a D sound or a Z sound? My teacher has been telling us to pronounce it like a Z sound in class, but Arabic isn't his first language so I trust you more :D
Re: Come 2 learn Arabic
Arabic_Diamond
09/05/03 at 02:46:44
Marhaban Ahmad
it's like / th /sound as in although but it's with emphatically
well , I'll ask my brother  [img]http://www.n9b.com/vb/images/smilies/161.gif[/img]       2 pronounce them and I'll record'm for u
Re: Come 2 learn Arabic
Arabic_Diamond
09/05/03 at 03:19:05
Hi Ahmad
I found this perfect site for Arabic learner
u'll find the pronouncation of arabic letters ;D ;D

[url]http://www.arabic2000.com/arabic/alphabet.html[/url]
Re: Come 2 learn Arabic
Nomi
09/05/03 at 03:46:38
[slm]

[quote author=Arabic_Diamond link=board=library;num=1062692541;start=0#2 date=09/05/03 at 02:46:44]
I'll ask my brother  [img]http://www.n9b.com/vb/images/smilies/161.gif[/img]       2 pronounce them and I'll record'm for u [/quote]

lol @ [img]http://www.n9b.com/vb/images/smilies/161.gif[/img] .. cute smiley :P

[i]ana utawaq'a farah ataullam[/i] = (i look forward to happy learning :) )

is that a correct sentence sis ?

Jazakumullah for this thread (topic)
09/05/03 at 03:49:45
Nomi
Re: Come 2 learn Arabic
Arabic_Diamond
09/05/03 at 06:49:50
Ahlan Nomi
it's right 2 say
Ana atatala' ela ta ulom momte' ;D
Re: Come 2 learn Arabic
Halima
09/05/03 at 08:34:24
Beautiful, Sis Arabic_Diamond!  Maasha-Allah!

When I read it, I want to speak it immediately.  That is the feeling of excitement I get.

Shukran.

Halima
Re: Come 2 learn Arabic
Arabic_Diamond
09/05/03 at 13:11:42
[slm] sis
u'll speak it immediately if Allah wishes,I'll try to do my best ;D
Re: Come 2 learn Arabic
Nomi
09/07/03 at 15:24:35
[slm]

[quote author=Arabic_Diamond link=board=library;num=1062692541;start=0#5 date=09/05/03 at 06:49:50]
Ana atatala' ela ta ulom momte'
[/quote]

Thanks for the correction sis..  i've memorized it

and where is our next lesson ??
09/07/03 at 15:26:35
Nomi
Re: Come 2 learn Arabic
salaampeaceshalom
09/12/03 at 08:09:21
[slm]

Jazak'Allaah khyran for this thread!! This is so cool, insha'Allaah we'll benefit a lot from this.

BroWhiteSomali, some of the Arabs pronounce certain letters differently.  The Egyptians for instance, are more likely to pronounce that letter with a Z sound, someone correct me if I'm wrong?

Also, one question.  U know the letter Haa, do u pronunce that like Haa or like Haah? Do u pronounce a 'H' at the end as well? This has been bugging me for awhile now, would really appreciate it if u could tell me, jazak'Allaah khayran   :)
Re: Come 2 learn Arabic
WhiteSomali
09/12/03 at 16:24:16
[slm] ;D

There's two letters that make an H sound. If you're refering to the first one, just breathe some air outta your mouth before you make the H sound so it sounds like a heavy H. If you're refering to the second one, skip that step ;D  Very simple ;D

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Re: Come 2 learn Arabic
timbuktu
09/12/03 at 20:28:46
[slm] jazakAllahu khairan

did someone mention "makharijul huroof". i came across a book which explains the sounds of various letters, & how to make them. It was easier for me, but those trying to pronounce:

"Kha"

would have difficulty if they knew only the English alphabet, & did not hear this letter being pronounced.
Re: Come 2 learn Arabic
WhiteSomali
09/13/03 at 15:16:33
[slm] ;D

[QUOTE]
but those trying to pronounce:

"Kha"

would have difficulty if they knew only the English alphabet, & did not hear this letter being pronounced.  
[/QUOTE]

These are the letters that don't have an English equivilant (although some of them are close):

Ha
Kha
Thal
Ra
Sad
Dad
Ta
Dha
Ayn
Ghayn
Gaf

Without a teacher or at least audio, people are going to get those letters wrong almost for sure.

[slm]
09/13/03 at 15:17:06
WhiteSomali
Re: Come 2 learn Arabic
jannah
09/15/03 at 14:55:45
salam,

found this good list recently, written by a christian guy living in dimashq, thought it might help out anyone who wants to learn some phrases and stuff:


Arabic Phrases

Standard Arabic (Fusha)
These phrases can be used anywhere in the Arabic-speaking world...it will sound very formal, but you will be understood. If you are visiting lots of Arab countries, then these are the phrases to concentrate on, as it will be too difficult to try and learn each dialect unless you plan on staying a long time in each place. Standard Arabic has different case endings for male and female, so I've marked these by (m) and (f).

Pronunciation....
kh = as in Scottish loch or Russian kh
gh = a bit like the "r" in vraiment in French...sort of a gargled noise!!
q = like a "k" but in the back of your throat
dh = a cross between "z" and "th"...hard to explain!
th = there are two letters for th, so this makes it hard for me to say how each is different. One is pronounced as in "thin", and the other as in "this".
There is more than one letter for "s", "t", "dh" and "d", but it is impossible for me to distinguish between them writing in transliterated Arabic....and for a beginner, it doesn't really matter!
' = this is one of the hardest letters to pronounce...it is like the sound when you swallow, only it has a voice....impossible for me to describe!! It comes from deep in your throat, and always makes my friends who don't know Arabic laugh!!
' = a glottal stop...usually at the beginning of words (when you can forget about them) or at the end, when it just stops the word. When you say "Uh-oh", it is the sound you make between the two syllables.

This is just my system of transliteration...it is hard for beginners to distinguish between certain letters, so I'm not going to attempt to...if you try to follow the above rules when reading a phrase, I think most people will understand what you are trying to say...

Marhaba = Hello
As-salaamu 'aleykum = literally "peace be upon you"...a standard greeting throughout the Islamic world, to which the reply is:
Wa 'aleykum as-salaam = "and upon you be peace"
(Some Christian Arabs might get upset if you use this greeting...if you think the person could be Christian, play safe and use "Marhaba". I found this in Syria, as my landlord once told me off for greeting hims with this phrase. But this isn't always the case...apparently some Arab priests use this greeting )

Sabah al-khayr = Good morning
Sabah an-noor = reply to Good morning
Masaa' al-khayr = Good evening/afternoon (use any time after midday)

Kayf Haluka (m)/Kayf Haluki (f)? = How are you?
Ana bikhayr alhamdu lillah = I'm fine, thanks (Alhamdu lillah, translates as "praise be to Allah)
Wa anta (m)/ anti(f) ? = And you?

Matha ismuka/ismuki (m/f) = What is your name?
Ana ismi.... = my name is...

Shukran (jazilan) = thank you (very much)
Min Fadlek = please
Lau samaht (m)/ samahti (f) = another word for please

Fursa Sa'ida = pleased to meet you

Min 'ayna anta/anti? = Where are you from?
Ana min... = I'm from...
Baritaniya = Britain
Faransa = France
Almaniya = Germany
Hisbaniya = Spain
Hollanda = nethrelands
Nemsa = Austria
Turkiya = Turkey
Yunaan = Greece
Amreeka (al janubiyya/al latiniyya) = America (South/Latin)
Al-Hind = India
(Janoob) Afreeqiya = (South) Africa
(Most other countries are either the same as they are in English, or with an extra "a")

Na'am = Yes
Laa = No

Matha tureed (m)/ tureedee (f)? = What do you want?
Ana Ureed = I want...
shay = tea
qahwa = coffee
maa' = water
ghorfa = a room

Ana laa ureed = I don't want

Ana ureed an ath-hab ila.... = I want to go to...

fii al-baas = by bus
fii al-qitaar = by train
fii at-tayyara = by plane

'Ayna? = where (is)?
Matha? = what?
Limatha = why?
Mata? = when?

Al-yowm = today
Ghadan = tomorrow
Ams = yesterday

Fii as-sabah = in the morning
fii ba'ad adh-dhuhr = in the afternoon
fii al-masaa' = in the evening
fii al-layl = in the night

Ilaan = now
ba'ad = after
qabla = before

daqiqa = minute
saa'a = an hour (also a watch)
yowm = day
usboo' = week
shahr = month
sana = year

Ana ureed an... = I want to...
ashtiree = buy
ath-hab = go
azoor = visit
ara = see
abqa = stay
a'ood = return
ashrab = drink
aakul = eat
ajlis = sit
amshee = walk
anaam = sleep
a'arif = know
Sharaba = to drink
Ashrab = I drink (I am drinking) Nashrab = we drink
Tashrab/Tashrabee = you drink (m/f) Tashraboon = you drink (plural or polite)
Yashrab = he drinks Yashraboon = They drink (any group with a man)
Tashrab = she drinks Tashrabna = they drink (an all female group)

To make it future tense, add "sa" before the verb....sa ashrab = I will drink
To make it past, it becomes more complicated....

Sharabtu = I drank Sharabnaa = we drank
Sharabta/Sharabti = You drank (m/f) Sharabtum/Sharabtunna = you drank (m/f)
Sharaba = he drank Sharaboo = they drank (group incl. male)
Sharabat = she drank Sharabna (all female group)

Arabic is one of the few languages to have a dual case as well as singular and plural (I know Slovene does also, but can't think of any others)...however, I won't include it here, as it is very complicated, and Arabs don't generally use it much in speech!

Huna = here
hunaaka = there

Hatha (m)/ hathihi (f) = this
Thalika (m)/ tilka (f) = that
Ha'ulaa' = those (used for people only...if you are referring to objects, use hathihi)

Waahid = one Ahad 'ashar = eleven
Ithnayn = two Ithna 'ashar = twelve
Thalaatha = three Thalaathat 'ashar = thirteen
Arba'a = four etc...
Khamsa = five
Sitta = six
Saba'a = seven
Thamaniya = eight
Tisa'a = nine
'Ashara = ten

'Ashreen = twenty Wahid wa 'ashreen = twenty one, etc...
Thalaatheen = thirty
Arba'een = forty
Khamseen = fifty
Sitteen = sixty
Saba'een = seventy
Thamaaneen = eighty
Tisa'een = ninety
Mi'a = one hundred Mi'a wa waahid = 101
Mi'a wa waahid wa ashreen = 121
Mi'atayn = 200
Thalaath mi'a = 300, etc...

Alf = 1000
Alfayn = 2000
Thalaatha aalaaf = 3000

Bikam? = how much?
Hatha ghaalee = that's expensive
Hatha rakhees = that's cheap (DON'T say this if you are trying to bargain, though!)
Hal andek shay' arkhas = do you have something cheaper?

Insha'allah = "if God wills it"...you'll hear this a lot...Arabs use it all the time when talking about the future...
examples...
Sa ath-hab ila Dimashq ghadan, insha'allah = I will go to Damascus tomorrow, Inshallah
Bukra Insha'allah! = Tomorrow, Inshallah! (a good reply to "welcome, come into my shop, mister!)

Maa sha'allah = used when something or somebody is very beautiful. Also very common.
Bismillah = "In the name of God" (opening of any qur'anic verse), this is said by many Muslims before eating or drinking.
Wallahi! = By God! (swearing!!)

Hal tatakallum al-'arabiyya? = do you speak Arabic?
Ana Atakallum al-Injileeziya = I speak English

Ma'assalaama = goodbye
Ila al-Liqa' = until we meet again (sounds strange, but Arabs use it a lot)

Tisbah 'ala al-khayr = goodnight

(Anybody think of some essential phrases I've forgotten?)

Thanks to "thevoyager" for correcting me in a few places :@P shukran ya Alya!

Syrian dialect (al-lehja as-sooriya)
I've called this the "Syrian dialect" as I learnt it in Damascus, but most of these phrases are used (or at least understood) in Lebanon, Jordan and Palestine.
Pronunciation....
- "soft th" becomes "t"
- "hard th" becomes "z"
- q is not normally pronounced
- the "a" at the ends of words is pronounced more like "eh"

Keefak (m)?/ Keefek (f)? = how are you?
Shlownak? = how are you? (literally "what colour are you?...don't try and be funny by answering "green" or "blue", as people generally won't understand!)
Shu Akhbarak? = another way of saying how are you (literally "What is your news?")

(Ana) mneeh (m)/ mneeha (f) , alhamdulillah = I'm fine thanks

Wayn? = where?
Shu? = what?
Laysh? = why?
Aymta? = when?
Keef? = how?
'Addesh? = how much?

Shu biddek? = what do you want?
Biddi... = I want...
Maa biddi = I don't want
arooh - to go
ashoof - to see

May (not pronounced like the month, but more like "my") = water
'ahweh = coffee

Wayn bitrooh (m)/ bitroohee (f) = where are you going?
Barooh la Sooriya = I'm going to Syria
Dimashq = Damascus
Halab = Aleppo
Tadmor = Palmyra
Al-laazikiya = Latakia
Lubnaan = Lebanon
Tarablus = Tripoli
Al-Urdun = Jordan
Al-'Agba = Aqaba
Filusteen = Palestine
Al-Quds = Jerusalem

Ash-Shaam = within Syria, this is used for Damascus...outside Syria, it is used to mean Syria, although many people in lebanon use it to mean Damascus...can be confusing at times!!!

All other major place names stay the same.

Mneen inta/inti? Where are you from....sometimes squeezed even further to...
Mneennta?

Shu ismak? = what is your name?
Ismi... = my name is...

Lau samaht = Please (used more often than Min fadlek)
Bislamou = alternative to shukran, thank you (shukran is more common though)

Aywa = yes Laa = no

'ala al-yameen lau samaht = on the right please (say this when you want to get off a minibus)
tfaddal/tfaddali = here you are! (say this when handing anything over (e.g.money), or to offer someone a seat, or let someone through a door ahead of you, etc...there are thousands of uses!)

ta'all! = come! rooh! = go! kohl! = eat! shrab! = drink!
(for feminine forms, add "ee" to the end)

waahit = 1
tneen = 2
tlaateh = 3
arba'a = 4
khamseh = 5
sitteh = 6
saba'a = 7
tmaniyeh = 8
tisa'a = 9
'ashra = 10

Biddi = I want Biddna = we want
Biddek = you want Biddkun = you want
Bidduh = he wants Biddhun = they want
Biddha = she wants

Ba'arif = I know Bna'arif = we know
Bta'arif (ee)(f) = you know Bta'arifoo = you know
Bya'arif = he knows Bya'arifoo = they know
Bta'arif = she knows

It is quite common to add a "b" before any verb form.



Re: Come 2 learn Arabic
Yasmeena
09/15/03 at 15:47:47
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Thank you for this post.  How do I get into the lessons!!

I usually don't checkout this part of the community.  I guess I should from now on.

If you need to contact me my e-mail is on my profile list.

[wlm]

Yasmeena
Re: Come 2 learn Arabic
timbuktu
09/15/03 at 18:44:07
[slm] sister jannah

that was a very impressive list.

if we could just get the arabic with it, it would make it near-perfect.


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