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| remembering 9/11 and thoughts on the future |
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| jannah |
| 09/11/03 at 16:42:46 |
| [slm] Thought we could share our feelings 2 years after 9/11.. It seems so long ago yet so near. I feel sad for all the lives lost and the people affected negatively from 9/11 and all it's after affects... ie people being detained, harassed, iraq, etc, etc, etc. I think the Muslims are pretty traumatized and kind of frozen in place. It's interesting in Dr. Jackson's speech at ISNA he said we kind of are hoping that if we just keep our heads down for a few years, the effects of 9/11 will blow over. But he said that we're just in a different age we can't go back to the way things were. And that now we're in a very historically significant point in history and what we do now will determine our future for the next 100 years and beyond. |
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| Caraj |
| 09/11/03 at 16:56:31 |
| Great idea for a post Jannah. Remembering 9/11.........(sigh) to me is not just what happened on that day but eye opening to what happened years prior and what has happened since. Seeing all the hatred bothers me. I have a few Muslim friends and think of them not differently than before 9/11. However I am discouraged and disgusted by the hatred, the ignorance and the meaness some of my fellow countrymen have displayed since 9/11. In my life time I have seen in the news many killed in the name of other religions and beliefs and why are these not put out front like Islam has been. To my Muslims friends........please forgive the hatred, I know it is hard and I have experienced some of the hatred by family, friends and others, being called unpatriotic, a sympathizer. Well I LOVE MY country but like a mother with a child you can love someone/something but not agree with it. I love my sons but I do not always agree with their behavior. Show the love, patience, peace and mercy of Islam and let that speak for your way of life. Salaam.......Peace. There is a song a Christian singer song a while back. My sons actually got to meet this woman and sing it with her in a pagant. Jannah would it be alright to post the words? It is called Love In Any Language. One verse says.....Love in any Language Straight from the heart Pulls us all together Never apart and once you learn to speak it All the world will hear Love in Any language Fluently spoken here The singer is Sandi Patty In this song it talks about fathers and births and marriages and how all have their hopes and dreams and goals, etc. If posting lyrics to a song is not cool cause of copyright stuff please edit my post Jannah. I am not sure how that stuff works. |
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| Nomi |
| 09/11/03 at 17:15:09 |
| [slm] Always felt bad about what happened at 9/11, watched CNN today after a long long time, saw them crying for their dead, innocent they were and such an attack must NEVER BE encouraged. The kids of the dead were calling out their names, i really really feel for them ........... really...... It must have took them hours to call out all the names ...... i wonder how long will it take if my sisters, my mothers, our young ones, Muslims start calling out names of our lost ones, .................. days !!!!!!!!!! sigh.......... Again, victims of twin towers were innocent, i really feel for them and i still wonder who did it (i dont think that Muslims were involved but plz plz plz dont start a debate again) [slm] heal the world..... make it a better place..... for you and for me and the entire [i]human race[/i]...... |
| 09/12/03 at 03:59:34 |
| Nomi |
| Peaceful tomorrows |
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| WhatDFish |
| 09/11/03 at 20:19:12 |
| 9/11 Families Urge Peace to Stop Spiraling Terror -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "One of our members wrote to the New York Times on Sept 14, 2001 'I pray that this country which has been so deeply hurt not unleash forces that it does not have the power to call back.' Have we unleashed these terrible forces? Since war with Iraq, international sympathy and support has turned to hatred and despair .." Statement on the Second Anniversary of 9/11 Two years ago today our loved ones were tragically murdered in an act of terror that shook the United States and the world. In the time since their deaths, as we continue our personal paths of grieving, we are comforted by the thoughtful and compassionate response of people all over the world who have offered sympathy and support to the victims of these terrible attacks. But much about the US government’s approach to responding to our loved ones’ deaths stands in stark contrast to the common sense words and comforting actions of ordinary people. On this two-year anniversary, we stop to reflect on the dangerous course of current policies and to call for a new approach to 9/11 that is focused on bringing about true security and justice. Our loved ones' deaths prompted the US government to attack Afghanistan and overthrow the repressive Taliban government with the objective of catching Osama Bin Laden and other members of Al Queda thought to be responsible for the attack. While military efforts to overthrow the Taliban were initially successful, Bin Laden is still unaccounted for, and recent reports indicate that the Taliban and Al Queda are resurging in Afghanistan even as the central government pleads for more funds for stabilization and rebuilding. Our military campaign in Afghanistan did one thing for certain: it created more bereaved families just like ours. Ordinary Afghans were killed by US bombs, injured by cluster bombs, and displaced by fighting, adding to the suffering of 23 previous years of wars. On our travels to Afghanistan we have met some of these families and hold them in our hearts today as another set of victims created by the tragedy of 9/11. Shortly after 9/11/01, the US congress passed the USA Patriot act, ostensibly to improve security in the United States, with little time for examination of its consequences. In this climate of fear and panic, the Patriot Act and other measures have eroded basic American civil liberties and threatened our immigrant populations in particular. Today, unnamed people languish in unidentified locations on unknown charges under the guise of American justice. Yet there is no evidence that these measures have made us any safer. At the same time, the administration stalls on efforts to provide an open and honest investigation of the events of 9/11. Last year at this time, President Bush used the occasion of the one year commemoration of our loved ones' deaths to begin a marketing campaign to sell the war against Iraq. Despite the lack of a link between Saddam Hussein and the events of 9/11, the Bush Administration's insinuations of a connection played upon the public’s fears of 9/11 and led the country into an unnecessary war in Iraq, invoking our loved ones' deaths as justification. While the deceptions behind the stated reasons for going to war are coming to light, ordinary Iraqis and US soldiers in Iraq continue to suffer, with the death toll mounting every day. Today we pause to mourn the Iraqi dead and all the casualties of the war, and to call upon our leaders to bring our troops, who have put their lives on the line, safely home from this misguided mission and to turn control of Iraq’s rebuilding to the authority of the United Nations. One of our members wrote to the New York Times on Sept 14, 2001 "I pray that this country which has been so deeply hurt not unleash forces that it does not have the power to call back." Have we unleashed these terrible forces? After 9/11 America had the sympathy of the entire world. Since war with Iraq, international sympathy and support has turned to hatred and despair. Anti-American sentiment is on the rise all around the world—what better recruiting tool for terrorist can we provide? As grieving family members, we know that feelings of fear and anger are a natural part of the healing process. But we have learned that it is not healthy or constructive to act on these emotions. The government’s response to 9/11 has kept us stuck in the fear and panic that we all shared from the shocking events of 9/11. Rather than basing our policies on fear and anger, we call upon the government to act in the best interest of the American public by rejoining the community of nations to work together constructively in solving the issues of worldwide terrorism and war. While September 11 stands as a unique tragedy in the American experience, the sad reality is that people in other countries have been experiencing their own September 11ths with much less fanfare all the time. Peaceful Tomorrows members have met with other victims of violence around the world who are a guiding light in our efforts to put our grief to work as action for peace. From Israeli and Palestinian parents who lost children to violence, to victims of the US Embassy bombing in Kenya to the mothers of the disappeared in Central and South America to the survivors of the ultimate violence—the atomic weapons dropped by the US on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Peaceful Tomorrows members have found ourselves to be part of a worldwide family of those who have known terror and who have responded with peace. September 11 taught us that human beings have the capacity to commit terrible violence against each other. But it also taught us that the human heart is capable of overcoming fear and hatred to build a world in which there are no more September 11ths anywhere in the world. It is this hope is that we must build upon as individuals and as nations. On February 15, 2003 a great worldwide shift was made apparent—so obvious in fact that the New York Times reported it on the front page. The millions of people in the streets around the world marching against war in Iraq demonstrated that there are now two superpowers in the world: the Bush Administration and global public opinion. We are honored to stand with our brothers and sisters around the world who know that we the people must find another way to live together on this planet. So today as we mourn, reflect and remember, we ask that you join with us in pursuit of true peace, security, and justice. We owe it to the dead, we need it for the living and we must do it for the generations to follow. Let us move forward together to build a future of peaceful tomorrows. Source: September Eleventh Families For Peaceful Tomorrows - http://www.peacefultomorrows.org/ |
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| Sparrow |
| 09/11/03 at 20:33:40 |
| Great topic. I lived in NYC on 9/11. I remember being scared, and confused and bewildered. It was surreal. I kept tallying my friends in my head, making sure I had accounted for everyone. I remember feeling...embarrassed I guess, and duped, sort of, since I had been studying Islam and was seriously considering reverting....I felt like all of a sudden I knew nothing about the religion...I couldn't make what had happened match with the kindness and friendliness I had encountered with Muslims I had met both in real life and on this board. I remember coming to the Medina while things were still unfolding, and someone had typed, at the end of his post, "What a terrible day for humanity." I thought, what else needs to be said? Peace (Hopefully. Someday.) Sparrow |
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| timbuktu |
| 09/23/03 at 10:43:44 |
| [slm] there have been killings of larger numbers in the past, & i have no doubt that there will be more in the future. I do not see any peaceful tomorrows. Mankind is cruel & greedy. For the muslims of the US & Europe, i think wake-up time has arrived. many thought they were living in "Paradise on Earth". Now they know it was only a transitory illusion. & many non-muslims in the West have learnt that the policies of their governments cause resentment & hatred. I remember the first Bush war. from Morocco to Indonesia an anguished cry went out that placing US soldiers on Saudi soil would be seen by the muslim sthe world over as sacrilege. Pakistan offered to defnd saudi Arabia, but was told to shut up. King Fahd was told to invite the US in, or we are coming anyway. Bush-I did not heed the warnings. That was the beginning of the OBL & Al-Qaeda saga. Similarly Bush-II was told that without UN backing, an attack on Iraq would be a folly. but the neo-cons agenda is to grab money by any means, & the resources of the world. The money they have already grabbed. The US surplus is gone, distributed to the rich as tax-cuts. In Iraq, the US schemes do not work. So, it is asking right & left for mercenaries. The Empire has come unstuck even before it could be built. I, too, grieve for the dead on Sep 11 attacks, but I grieve for many many others as well at the same time, both before & after Sep 11, 2001. |
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