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Questions about dua's and Islamic traditions
Caraj
09/18/03 at 14:36:39
Hello all, I was reading a post on one of our other boards and had questions.

I was reading a link about dua's and understand most as Christian say God bless You when one sneezes and also gives thanks for the food.
However the others like clothing and also the bathroom ones and using left foot for one way and right foot for other (ewntering and exiting)
Can someone explain, offer Quran verses, etc please?

Thank you in advanc for the education and insight. When learning things one wonders if it is a long tradition or is it actually in the Quran. I drive folks nuts    :-/   when dealing with Christian things as I always ask, is this assumed, tradition or is it actually in the Bible? If told it is in the Bible I always say WHERE ???       :)

Kind of like Kathy's  'SHOW me the papers'   :D
I say 'Show me the scripture'      ;)

I can't get over home much more Islam seems more reverent of the Almighty than Christians. Well Catholics are sort of, I was raised Catholic but have not been in decades. But I remember all the ritualistic and reverent things done.

:-*
09/18/03 at 14:43:23
Caraj
Re: Questions about dua's and Islamic traditions
WhiteSomali
09/18/03 at 16:35:15
;D

All that good stuff is from hadiths with authentic chains.
09/18/03 at 16:35:59
WhiteSomali
Re: Questions about dua's and Islamic traditions
Caraj
09/18/03 at 18:14:27
[quote author=WhiteSomali link=board=madrasa;num=1063906600;start=0#1 date=09/18/03 at 16:35:15] ;D

All that good stuff is from hadiths with authentic chains.[/quote]
Ok I am ignorant of what that means
Explaination please?

By the way cool flag at the bottom of your posts.  :)

Oh and I know this is really gonna sound dumb    :( as I have been here on the boards nearly 2 yrs and have heard the term used.
What is hadiths? Where do they come from? Origionated???
09/18/03 at 18:16:47
Caraj
Re: Questions about dua's and Islamic traditions
Kathy
09/18/03 at 22:37:04
Hadith is a narration of a tradtion, way of life or saying that Prophet Muhammad  [saw] said or did.  The transmissions are very carefully recorded and authenticated.

Kind of like the Indians... when they tell stories about the elders.
The story is passed on and on until it was finally recorded. Much care and effort is taken to ensure the transmission is accurate.

Nothing like the Norman Rockwell picture of the telephone calls!

The Hadith, also refered to as Sunnah (somewhat incorrectly),  is the second most important source of Islamic references, with the first being the Qur'an.

It would be almost impossible for a Muslim to live by the Qu'ran's words alone. For example. The Qur'an tells us to pray..but Prophet Muhammad [saw] gave us the details, how, when, where...etc..

Some people include in the hadiths , things that the Sahabah( his companions) or his wives said or did.

This quote from the Qu'ran guides us to following the hadith:
"And whatever the Messenger gives you, take it, and whatever he forbids you, leave it. And fear Allah: truly Allah is severe in punishment. " 59:7

An example of a hadith is:

A man came to the Prophet and said, ‘‘O Messenger of God! Who among the people is the most worthy of my good companionship? The Prophet said: [Your mother]. The man said, ‘‘Then who?' The Prophet said: [Then your mother.] The man further asked, ‘‘Then who?' The Prophet
said: [Then your mother]. The man asked again, ‘‘Then who?' The Prophet said: [Then your father.]. (Bukhari, Muslim).

The names at the end, Bukhari and Muslim, are scholars that collected the ahadith (plural) and verified them.

About the verification of the hadith... one of my favorite stories is that a scholar went through the country looking to verify a particular hadith, something that Prophet Muhammad [saw] said. He finally found the home of the man who was one of the last parts of the chain. As he came around the corner he saw the man trying to trick/bribe his donkey with a carrot.

The scholar refused to accept this man in the chain because he felt if he would try to trick an animal who else may he try to decieve? Authenticating hadith is really serious business and they took no chances.
09/18/03 at 22:43:47
Kathy
Re: Questions about dua's and Islamic traditions
Nomi
09/22/03 at 03:23:59
Still remember that beautiful thread!

This might help... [url=http://www.jannah.org/cgi-bin/madina/YaBB.pl?board=library;action=display;num=1033115665][color=Purple]Duas From Noble Qur'an[/color][/url] Compiled by sis Attia.

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09/22/03 at 03:26:42
Nomi
Re: Questions about dua's and Islamic traditions
sofia
09/22/03 at 12:31:35
Peace, Azizah
Not sure if this will help, but just some further points for clarification.

Islamic law is derived from more than just one source (the Qur'aan). There's:
1) the Qur'aan: Primary source; the foremost source of law.
2) the Sunnah (literally, the tradition/way) of the Prophet (S). This can also be considered a primary source, after the authority of the Qur'aan. The Sunnah is the way the Prophet (S) implemented Qur'aanic teachings; it includes ahaadith literature (sing: hadith). It is a natural supplement to the Qur'aan, although it is not considered part of the Qur'aan.
3) Ijmaa': Consensus of the scholars. Secondary source, dependent on Qur'aan and Sunnah.
4) Qiyaas: Analogies to derive law deduced by our scholars (mainly for situations not addressed by the Q/S). Secondary source, dependent on Qur'aan and Sunnah.
5) There are more levels. Please see [url=http://www.wponline.org/vil/Books/SH_SL/sources_of_islamic_law.htm]Sources of Islamic Law[/url].

The Qur'aan holds the highest level of authentic divine revelation/teachings, and anything that contradicts it does not over ride it. When the Qur'aan mentions, the believers should pray to God, the Sunnah of the Prophet (S) describes to us exactly how he did it. He did not do things by his own whim, particularly after he was given the status of prophethood (at the age of 40 until his death at 63). From that point on, everything he did was in conformity with the teachings of Islaam, whether as taught through the Qur'aan or taught to him by way of revelation outside of Qur'aanic scripture. Islam teaches that all Prophets of God had immaculate character, and any time they made a mistake, they were immediately corrected by God. Why would anyone follow a prophet who was otherwise "defective" in character?

An example of Islamic teachings outside of the Qur'aan. how to make wudu'/ablution before prayer. The Qur'aan mentions that one should purify oneself with water, and mentions cleaning certain body parts, and even what to do if there is no water. One would think that's enough information. However, there's much more to it, as any Muslim will affirm. Not only did the Prophet (S) show his followers detailed information on how to cleanse oneself before prayer, he taught them what breaks/nullifies it, suggested how much water to use/not to waste it, the sequence of body parts cleaned, the reward/removal of sins associated with wudu', and even how to use the restroom properly, etc.  None of these details go against the Qur'aan, and only maintain its teachings.

The ahaadith (sing: hadith) literature is a collection of the Prophet's (S) sayings/actions. See [url=http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/]Sunnah and Hadith[/url] and [url=http://www.islaam.com/Article.aspx?id=232]The Indispensibility of Hadith[/url]. Ahaadith are classified by scholars into those that are authentic (saheeh) to those that are fabricated (and various grades in between). This is done based on examination of the chain of narrators, character of narrators, subject content, etc. There is really no other science like it, and you can trust me when I say that verification of facts by this method would lead to a much more analytical and truthful society. Anyhow, an interesting point to make is that saheeh ahaadith literature (and even some less authenticaly classified ahaadith) are in conformity with Qur'aanic teachings, and do not contradict it. Less authentic ahaadith (like totally unauthentic/fabricated) may not, and are thrown out when deducing Islamic law. The reason Islam makes so much sense, is because not only does the Qur'aan not contradict itself (while some may try to argue that point with weak arguments), but it also does not contradict the (authentic) Sunnah of the Prophet (S). It has to make sense, for it to be a true religion and to be followed so widely.

Another point about Islamic law when it comes to certain actions, is that it's generally broken down into 5 broad categories:
1) actions that are impermissible (haraam). If done, it is considered a sin and is subject to punishment/judgement by God. Example: cheating.
2) actions that are disliked/hated by God (makrooh). If done, may or may not be associated with punishment/judgement by God, depending on the situation. Ex: Shaving off the beard (according to a minority of scholars. Most scholars consider it haraam to do so, but I won't go into that. I just couldn't think of another example for makrooh).
3) actions that are permissible (mubah or halal). Permissible act; no punishment or reward linked to it (although a mubah act can become a makrooh, mustahabb, etc, act depending on the situation). Ex: eating an orange.
4) actions that are recommended/loved by God (mandub or mustahabb). If not done, may not be subject to punishment/judgment by God, depending on the situation. Ex: praying tahajjud/extra night prayers.
5) actions that are obligatory (fard/waajib). If not done, subject to punishment/judgement by God. Ex: praying the 5.

For more detail, check [url=http://www.wponline.org/vil/Books/Quduri_Mukhtasar/fiqh_overview.htm]Overview of Fiqh[/url] and [url=http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/law/shariahintroduction.html]Shari'ah and Fiqh[/url].

In all cases, a person can be rewarded for staying away from an action God hates, or doing an act God loves. But for the sake of definitions, these categories are mainly distinguished by whether or not there is punishment associated with it. One of the meanings of taqwaa, is to guard oneself from doing anything that would earn punishment from God. Allahu A'lim.

I haven't included the vast amount of literature that describes reward from God (as opposed to punishment). One point to understand, however, is that God rewards a good deed by multiplying it by 10-700x or more. So for example, for every dollar I give to the needy, it's multiplied ($10-$700 or more) in my "register of good deeds." If I commit a sin, my "bank of evil deeds" is not multiplied, and is simply a 1 to 1 ratio with my deed. In fact, a person could even be rewarded for resisting an evil act that they were thinking of doing, and for intending to do a good deed but not doing it. Subhan'Allah. This is just to serve as an example of the mercy of God. Allahu A'lim.

Anyhow, for your specific question, the source of how to respond to someone who sneezes or how to enter/exit a restroom is based on  hadith literature, as already mentioned by others. There may or may not be any punishment associated with one who does not respond to someone who sneezes, or does not enter the bathroom with the left foot first, depending on the [i]category of the action[/i]. Just wanted to make sure that was clear.

There are many other ahaadith associated with these topics; I've only included one as an example of a source:
The Prophet (S) said, [color=blue]"Allah likes sneezing and dislikes yawning, so if someone sneezes and then praises Allah, then it is obligatory on every Muslim who heard him, to say: 'May Allah be merciful to you (Yar-hamuk Allah)..."[/color] [Saheeh Bukhaari hadith collection]

I hope you'll take advantage of checking out the links mentioned, which provide more detail. Most of them are relatively short, intro articles.
Also see here for general articles on Islamic law/shari'ah:

http://www.jannah.org/cgi-bin/madina/YaBB.pl?board=archives;action=display;num=1048086585

Azizah, let us know if you have any more questions.
And if there are any mistakes in this, hope someone corrects me, insha'Allah.
NS
09/22/03 at 13:15:03
sofia
Re: Questions about dua's and Islamic traditions
Tesseract
09/22/03 at 12:56:24
Assalamu 'Alaikum,

           (Suggestion): I think it'll be a good idea to send "Riyad-us-Saliheen" (2 Volumes) as a gift to Azizah, since she has learnt about the importance and status of sunnah now. Riyad-us-Saliheen has quite a lot of ahadeeth chapter wise and topic wise, and its a collecion of authentic Ahadeeth. If there is any weak hadeeth in it, its mentioned in its commentary that its a weak hadeeth. I got mine as a gift for $19 (if I don't remember incorrectly), so shipping and cost price together shouldn't cost more than $25-30. I am broke these days. Any other volunteers? Maybe brothers/sisters can chip in. In case she doesn't have a copy of Qur'an, maybe that can be sent too.

Wassalam.
Re: Questions about dua's and Islamic traditions
Tesseract
09/22/03 at 15:26:40
Assalamu 'Alaikum,

              I totally forgot Riyad-us-Saliheen is available online, and infact u can find other books of Ahadeeth online as well. Here is the link to Riyad-us-Saliheen:

          [url]http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/hadeeth/riyad/default.htm[/url]

Wassalam.
Re: Questions about dua's and Islamic traditions
eleanor
09/24/03 at 13:34:23
[slm]

okay I have been thinking about getting a serious set of hadith books. I feel ready for it  8)

So I was going to get Sahih Bukhari. But now you are coming with this Riyadh us Salihin?

Which is better? And why?
Re: Questions about dua's and Islamic traditions
se7en
09/24/03 at 23:54:18
as salaamu alaykum / peace

not to get all icky on you guys, but in truth saying a prayer of thanks after you sneeze and after you leave the bathroom are both kind of in the same line of thinking.  they are means by which your body purifies itself, and if your body was not able to do so you would face a lot of illness, problems and disease.  so it really is something to be thankful for.

Eleanor - Riyadh us Saliheen ["Garden of the Righteous"] is a work by Imam Nawawi that has ahadeeth from Bukhari, Muslim, etc.. they are sorted into themes with some scholarly commentary and citations from the Qu'ran for each one.  It's nice because there is some explanation for each text, as opposed to just the straight up narration without understanding it's context, background, actual linguistic meaning, etc.

09/25/03 at 02:10:11
se7en
Re: Questions about dua's and Islamic traditions
eleanor
09/25/03 at 10:25:26
[slm]

hmmm.. I started with the 40 hadith by the same guy - Nawawi. So Riyadh us Saliheen would be the next step up I guess?

Jazak Allah

Re: Questions about dua's and Islamic traditions
humble_muslim
09/25/03 at 12:34:32
AA

If you want to be e-mailed all the hadiths in Riyadh As Saliheen, one per day, send an e-mail to riyadhsaliheen@bigfoot.com with 'subscribe' in the subject line.
NS
Re: Questions about dua's and Islamic traditions
Caraj
09/26/03 at 10:56:37
[quote author=Bulwark of Islam link=board=madrasa;num=1063906600;start=0#6 date=09/22/03 at 12:56:24]Assalamu 'Alaikum,

           (Suggestion): I think it'll be a good idea to send "Riyad-us-Saliheen" (2 Volumes) as a gift to Azizah, since she has learnt about the importance and status of sunnah now. Riyad-us-Saliheen has quite a lot of ahadeeth chapter wise and topic wise, and its a collecion of authentic Ahadeeth. If there is any weak hadeeth in it, its mentioned in its commentary that its a weak hadeeth. I got mine as a gift for $19 (if I don't remember incorrectly), so shipping and cost price together shouldn't cost more than $25-30. I am broke these days. Any other volunteers? Maybe brothers/sisters can chip in. In case she doesn't have a copy of Qur'an, maybe that can be sent too.

Wassalam.[/quote]

Thank you, appreciate the thought and kindness. I do have a Quran that Jannah and an anon person combined sent me. I really enjoy going to it when I read something on the boards here and can refer to it in the Quran. The site you posted, I see the books but could not see how to order them. Can you tell me how? Can someone recommend other sites to purchase Islamic books?
I did find the Riyad-us-Saliheen in the barnes and Noble books site and called my local store. So have one on the way and am sooo looking forward to it.   :)   It was twice a much as you thought it would be thought, so I am wondering if I could get books at an Islamic site in the future cheaper than at the place I am getting this one?
Re: Questions about dua's and Islamic traditions
sofia
09/29/03 at 12:33:30
Azizah,

For cheaper books on Islaam, try www.islamicbookstore.com.

While I love Nawawi's Riyaad-us-Saaliheen, it's rather long (2 volumes). A good concise book I'd recommend as an intro is a book like [url=http://store.yahoo.com/islamicbookstore-com/b2865.html]"A Treasury of Ahadith"[/url] by M. Kazi. Contains a general intro explaining the historical aspect of ahaadith and their grades, and otherwise consists of some good, easy ahaadith grouped by subject matter. Costs less than $10; paperback. Riyaad-us-Saliheen is similar, only 2 volumes long, hardcover, etc.

Either way, you can check online for some hadith, like [url=http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/hadithqudsi.html]40 Ahadith Qudsi[/url] or [url=http://www.islamworld.net/nawawi.html]Imam Nawawi's collection of 40 ahadith[/url]. But I'd recommend an actual book.
09/29/03 at 12:45:49
sofia
Re: Questions about dua's and Islamic traditions
Caraj
10/02/03 at 21:20:14
[quote author=Bulwark of Islam link=board=madrasa;num=1063906600;start=0#7 date=09/22/03 at 15:26:40]Assalamu 'Alaikum,

              I totally forgot Riyad-us-Saliheen is available online, and infact u can find other books of Ahadeeth online as well. Here is the link to Riyad-us-Saliheen:

          [url]http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/hadeeth/riyad/default.htm[/url]

Wassalam.[/quote]

This is what I ordered, can you tell me if I ordered the right one please?

Riyadh-Us-Saleheen, Volumes 1 and 2  Idara Isha'at-e-Diniyat

Cause I went through barnes and noble and they go through someone else also as it is out of print and I have a used...In very good condition coming?

What is the.........Nawawi's Riyaad-us-Saaliheen
Is this the same or a different one?

Also this.....   Riyad-us-Saliheen (2 Volumes)
by Imam Al-Nawawi  

Someone please answer this as soon as possible. I want to make sure I have the right ones coming.

Is one the origional and out of print and the newer one a recent one, re published?
There are two different names as authors.
Thank you.
10/02/03 at 22:01:39
Caraj
Re: Questions about dua's and Islamic traditions
Tesseract
10/04/03 at 13:39:23
Salaam,

           Azizah, I don't think it should be different from what we have, although I am not 100% positive, 'cause I haven't seen Riyadh-us-Saliheen by "Idara Isha'at-e-Diniyat", but my best guess is that this Idara Isha'at-e-Diniyat is the name of publisher, and u can have same book published by different publishers, so that doesn't really matter, but be careful about the commentator, so when u get the book, just check if the commentator is same as mentioned below. Here are the specifics of Riyadh-us-Saliheen that I have:

Riyadh-us-Saliheen Volume 1 and 2

Compiled by: Al-Imam Abu Zakariya Yahya bin Sharaf An-Nawawi Ad-Dimashqi

Commentary by: Hafiz Salahuddin Yusuf

Translated by: Dr. Muhammad Amin Abu Usamah Al-Arabi bin Razduq.

Published by: Darussalam Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

Please, let us know if u have any other questions.

Wassalam.


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