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| privatization of education |
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| timbuktu |
| 10/14/03 at 08:19:10 |
| [slm] i heard that Hosni Mubarak of Egypt is going to privatize education. Egypt & Pakistan have a lot in common. The public education in both coutries was affordable, & gave the lower middle classes something to hope for, plus a stream of hard-working & occasionally public-minded educated people. In Pakistan privatization has resulted in a society which does not know where it is going. Standards vary a lot. The students, faculty, parents, adiminstartion, & now the regulatory bodies, are all going nuts, unable to figure out what to do. Plus, there is nothing for the young graduates to do. I am afraid Egypt may do the same. Does anyone have some links to what education is like in Egypt & other Arab/ muslim countries, &/or any thoughts on where & how we should be going? |
| 10/15/03 at 02:52:27 |
| timbuktu |
| Re: privatization of education |
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| humble_muslim |
| 10/14/03 at 11:58:23 |
| AA With due respect bro, although I have not lived in Pakistan, my impression was that before privatization, the education system was in a mess in any case. Granted, if you could get an education, all was good and well, but there were/are several problems : - First and foremost, not enough places for everyone wanting to be educated, especially after Matric level. Corect me if I'm wrong, but privatization opened up a lot more places. - In the universties, the VERY dirty student politics of the 70's/80's. This made it take years to get thru college. My bro in law needed 7 or 8 years to get thru his Masters. When students pay to go to college, they ain't gonna be want to wasting their own money. - The fact that any kind of government instiution will always cause some kind of corruption in Pakistan. Don't know what form this takes/took in Pakistan, but I've heard things (like people bringing guns into exam rooms), and don't really konw if privatization has changed this. And the proof is really in the pudding. For years, Pakistan has badly lagged behind India in education (let's not get emotional about this, let's face the truth). We see this now with the number of Indian IT workers in the US versus Pakistani IT workers. And do we know what the ration of Math Phds is between Pakistan and just the south of India? But then we also have the REALLY big educational problem in Pakistan, which is the lack of education in the villages due to interference of the fedual landlords in not wanting their subjects to be educated. Of course I'm biased against public schools too : I went to a private school in the UK, and my kids have been going to Islamic schools in the US. So please feel free to educate me if what I've written is F grade. |
| NS |
| Re: privatization of education |
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| timbuktu |
| 10/15/03 at 03:46:10 |
| [slm] [quote]before privatization, the education system was in a mess in any case[/quote] i think i have to agree that it was deteriorating, but the uncontrolled growth of institiutes has resulted in a jungle where money is wasted, & parents spend a lot, not knowing where the money is going. Most of the schools & colleges (private or public) do not prepare the students for a university life. you see, the third world has no proper watchdogs, no funding, the people with money just rush into construction & education & whatever seems to be the current money-maker. In the US too, the standards vary a lot. When private Universities satrted comin gup in the UK, i was there, & i have seen some professors of these universities, & frankly, i am not impressed. Once, a British Professor's lecture was a delight to attend, now it is luck. I see every day parents/ guardians, students, faculty, administration, with tremendous worries written over their foreheads, & there is nothing i can do. the Ummah needs education, good, standard affordable education, for all, & it seems that we are drifting further & further away from it. |
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