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Warning : Alcohol found in Lucozade
bismilla
11/04/03 at 07:38:38
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[slm] i heard on a news braodcast just now that our South African National Halaal Authority (SANHA) has taken up the issue of alcohol being an ingrediant in certain flavours of Lucozade ,  after reading about it in a British newspaper.

I am not sure which article they referred to, but for your information here's something i picked up on the internet :-

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[u]Soft drinks upset Muslims [/u]

17-10-2003

By Fiona Evans

Bradford Telegraph & Argus:

Mosques are calling for stricter food labelling laws after learning alcohol contained in some soft drinks is not listed on labels.

Varieties of Ribena and Lucozade drinks made by GlaxoSmithKline use alcohol and its derivatives - banned for Muslims - as carrier agents for flavourings, vitamins or minerals. [url=http://search.msn.co.za/results.aspx?q=lucozade+alcohol&FORM=SMCRT]...link here...[/url]

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Please be cautious Insha Allah.
[slm]
11/04/03 at 07:40:23
bismilla
Re: Warning : Alcohol found in Lucozade
Saffiyah
11/04/03 at 20:17:43
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Response from Lucozade....
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>Lucozade Energy and alcohol /alcohol derivatives
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>Thank you for your enquiry Lucozade Energy.  

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>Lucozade Energy sparkling original, lemon, tropical and citrus clear flavours cannot be described as alcohol/alcohol derivative free. Like many soft drinks, ethyl alcohol is used a solvent or carrier for the flavourings used in this product.
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>However it is present in trace amounts (less than 0.1% in the product) and is derived form a carbohydrate source. Lucozade Energy sparkling orange glucose drink is alcohol/alcohol derivative free.
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>We enclose a list of products which are both animal and alcohol free for your information.
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>ALCOHOL AND ANIMAL FACTSHEET
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>We enclose a list of our products, which, to the best of our knowledge contain no added alcohol and are free from all animal derived ingredients.

This list is accurate at present but we encourage our customers to request an updated list every six months.
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>*ANIMAL & ALCOHOL FACT SHEET
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>The products listed below are, to the best of our knowledge, free from all animal based/derived ingredients and contain no added alcohol.
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>LUCOZADE
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>Lucozade Orange Sparkling Glucose Drink  
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>Lucozade Glucose Energy Tablets Orange Flavour
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>Lucozade Glucose Energy Tablets Lemon Flavour
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>LUCOZADE SPORT  
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>Lucozade Sport Lemon Flavour Isotonic Drink (Still)
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>Lucozade Sport Orange Flavour Isotonic Drink (Still)
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>Lucozade Sport Mixed Berry Flavour Isotonic Drink (Still)
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>Lucozade Sport Orange Flavour Drink Mix (Powder)
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>Lucozade Sport Lemon Flavour Drink Mix (Powder)
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>Lucozade Sport Orange Flavour Carbohydrate Sports Gel
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>RIBENA
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>Ribena Blackcurrant Juice Drink Concentrate
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>Ribena 'Light' Low Calorie Blackcurrant Juice Drink Concentrate
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>Ribena Ready to Drink Blackcurrant Juice Drink
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>Ribena Ready to Drink 'Light' Low Calorie Blackcurrant Juice Drink
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>Ribena Ready to Drink Orange Juice Drink
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>Ribena Ready to Drink Strawberry Juice Drink
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>RIBENA TOOTHKIND

>Ribena ToothKind No Added Sugar Blackcurrant Juice Drink Concentrate
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>Ribena ToothKind Ready to Drink Blackcurrant Juice Drink
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>Ribena ToothKind Ready to Drink Strawberry Juice Drink
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>RIBENA SPARK
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>Ribena Spark Sparkling Blackcurrant Flavour Drink
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>*Animal based ingredients include milk, eggs and fish products.

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>#Alcohol is defined as ethyl alcohol or ethanol. We are advised by International Trade Federations that products cannot be claimed to be alcohol free as natural fruit flavours and fruit juices may contain naturally occurring alcohol.


Somebody e-mailed me this following fatwa as well, but i'm not sure of the source:

>Principally, if the alcohol is extracted from grapes or dates it is not permissible. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) said, "Khamr (wine) is from these two trees, dates and grapes." (Mishkăt p. 317).
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>Furthermore, Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) said, 'Alcohol itself is prohibited and intoxication in every other beverage.' (Hidaaya vol. 4 p.497).
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>However, if the alcohol in foods is not from dates or grape extract but from, for example, ethanol which is fermented from sugar cane molasses and does not intoxicate, then it is permissible.
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>and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best
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>Mufti Ebrahim Desai
>FATWA DEPT.
Re: Warning : Alcohol found in Lucozade
Anonymous
11/09/03 at 04:40:34
Muslims call for boycott on soft drinks - 30 October 2003

A call today went out to East Lancashire's Muslim community to
boycott some soft drinks after it was discovered they contained
traces of alcohol - banned under Islamic law.

Blackburn MP Jack Straw has pledged to pursue the matter with the
Food Standards Agency following the shock findings.

Queens Park ward councillor Salim Mulla , who is also secretary of
the Lancashire Council of Mosques, said he was shocked to learn that
some popular soft drinks including Lucozade use alcohol and its
derivatives as carrier agents for flavourings.

Lucozade manufacturers Glaxo Smithkline say the problem is industry-
wide and that alcohol is used in most brands of soft drinks.

Coun Mulla is also calling for the law on food labelling to be
changed, and has written to Foreign Secretary and Blackburn MP Jack
Straw in a bid to push for changes.

One town shopkeeper has already pledged to remove the products from
his shelves.

Current regulations do not require manufacturers to reveal on labels
whether alcohol is used in the product's flavourings in trace
amounts.

"We are a bit shocked and we want to boycott these products," said
Coun Mulla. "We want to send a very strong message out not to touch
these drinks.

"We were a bit shocked to learn that an element of alcohol is
contained in these drinks. I think most of the Muslim community is
going to be very upset and angry about this. We should stop buying
these drinks until the Government changes the law.

"We should encourage manufacturers to tell people if these
ingredients are in products. Even if alcohol is present in small
amounts, we should be told. Under the Qura'an (the Muslim holy book)
selling, drinking or distributing alcohol is banned."

Imran Hussain, who runs Imran's Food Store, Queen's Park Road,
Blackburn, said: "It's quite shocking. It's not right, it should be
mentioned on the label. I live in a Muslim area and it's against our
religion."

A spokesman for the Food Standards Agency said the Food Labelling
Regulations 1996 were European legislation and could not be changed
at national level.

"A lot of the flavourings used are quite oil-based and they need to
have some sort of solvent in there to enable it to be dispersed.

"Something like ethanol is very good at doing that. It's used in very
tiny amounts so it's not going to have an alcoholic property there."

The agency was continuing to press the European Commission on a
number of exemptions to the regulations, including alcohol, she said.

Mr Straw said: "After meeting with Coun Mulla and investigating this
issue I will take it up with the chairman of the Food Standards
Agency Sir John Krebs and report back to Coun Mulla."

A spokesman for the British Soft Drinks Association said: "Alcohol is
widely used in soft drinks as the carrying agent for flavourings as
it is an excellent solvent so that only tiny amounts of its have to
be used.

"Alcohol is the safest carrying agent available for soft drinks which
is why it is widely used. It is authorised for use under EU law for
this purpose.

"The concentrations of alcohol used are at trace level - less than
0.05 per cent (the permitted legal maximum would be ten times higher
at 0.5 per cent). This concentration is so low that the body
metabolises the alcohol faster than it is consumed, meaning that it
can have no intoxicating effect.

"The Food Labelling Regulations 1996 do not require it to be included
separately in the label - the term work "flavourings" may be used.
Otherwise, food and drink labels would rapidly become unreadable
because a flavouring might contain up to 50 different components,
each present in minute amounts."

A spokesman for Glaxo Smithkline said: "We are trying to address this
as an industry rather than as a brand.

"The trouble with labelling is there ara very strict guidelines about
what we do and don't put on. It's not just an issue about Lucozade



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