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upgrade is due?
superFOB
11/14/03 at 01:42:39
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The down time for this website has been showing an upward trend lately. I believe this is mostly due to the terrible scalability of yabb. Users have been increasing and so are the posts/threads, taxing yabb to the limit. Why don't the admins consider:[list][*]switching to a better bb like phpBB. It is not very painful btw.[*]splitting the website by hosting the BB at another server. This will cut the bandwidth by 2 but would cost a little bit more.[/list]Consider the advantages:[list][*]php is much easier to code/understand then perl.[*]designed with mysql: would make searching a reality.[*]phpBB is the most widely supported, secure, and robust BB out there.[*]can switch to a portal like phpNuke painlessly, if the need arises.[*]Scalability is excellent, you never have to worry about idlers.[*]Can do lots of cool stuff with the mysql DB, which has lots of ancillary tools.[/list]I found a little comment from a webhost admin:

[color=black]About a month ago DH announced it is discouraging using YaBB. === announcement === Over the last six months, our administration team has become aware of the bulletin board script YaBB (short for Yet Another Bulletin Board). The script has caught our attention due to its resource-intensive nature. That is, YaBB consumes a large share of server resources (in terms of memory and CPU utilization) for just being a Bulletin Board script. A YaBB site need NOT be terribly busy for it to consume more than acceptable levels of server resources. YaBB has also caught our attention due to the increasing number of you who are adopting it for use on your site. This concerns us greatly. While YaBB may provide a good deal of user functionality, at this point we're certain that its backend was not written with scalability in mind. That is, while a 10-message-per-day YaBB board may not make a noticeable impact on a server, a 200-message-per-day bulletin board YaBB can bring a server to its knees. YaBB is written in Perl, with a flat-file database for its data storage backend. This is horribly inefficient in UnixLand, and quite frankly does not scale well. We're strongly encouraging everyone to switch to a more scalable solution. Bulletin boards written in PHP accessing a MySQL database backend are generally fairly reliable. Since all of our plans now include MySQL for free, you will (almost definitely) incur no additional service fees from us when you make your switch. In particular, for smaller bulletin boards, we recommend phpbb (www.phpbb.com) as an open source and free solution. For larger bulletin boards, we've also see very good performance with the commercial bulletin board solution vbulletin (www.vbulletin.com). While this is by no means an exhaustive review (nor is it an official stamp of DreamHost approval), if you went with one of those two suggestions, you'd probably be ok. Why in the world would you want to migrate your bulletin board from YaBB to a PHP/MySQL based bulletin board? In the past three months we've recognized the need to become more aggressive in disabling busy YaBB boards to protect the stability of your servers. That very much means that if your YaBB board becomes busy enough, you may find it sporadically disabled, and even possibly permanently disabled. While the end result may seem draconian, our intentions are for the good of all. Our approach is quite considerate and we won't leave you hung out to dry. If you plan on migrating, contact us, and we'll make all attempts to leave your YaBB running untouched for several months. Happy DreamHost Stability Team! [/color]

just my humble 2 cents
Re: upgrade is due?
jannah
11/14/03 at 01:50:25
[wlm]

There's actually a lot of issues going on right now. Jazakallah khairan for the suggestions we're working on a few things.. will notify everyone when they're ready...


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