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| Shall we ever be able to beat them? |
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| Nomi |
| 12/02/03 at 02:16:07 |
| [slm] I'm told that a "practicing" Hafiz of Qur'an will be asked by Allah to start reciting the Qur'an and in the process his ranks in Jannah will continue to increase till he reaches the last surah! Now this is a practicing Hafiz so chances of him and some other Muslim doing equal number of good deeds are there, but being a Hafiz is a big big plus for the former. Then how to get ahead of such Huffaz in good deeds and hence get higher ranks in Jannah? How to get ahead in good deeds from a "practicing" Alim who is also promissed gr8 gr8 rewards just for being an Alim!! One thing that comes to mind is "Sadaqa jareeyah", building a masjid seems the best sadaqah jareeyah? or we'll never be able to get ahead of them ??? |
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| A_Stranger |
| 12/02/03 at 14:38:10 |
| [slm] To get the highest place in Jannah: qitaal fee sabeelillaah. No question about it. BTW, what does your signature mean? ("Forests are lovely dark and deep, but I have promises to keep and miles to go before I sleep.") Wassalaam. |
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| readagain |
| 12/02/03 at 16:57:02 |
| [quote author=A_Stranger link=board=madrasa;num=1070349367;start=0#1 date=12/02/03 at 14:38:10] [slm] BTW, what does your signature mean? ("Forests are lovely dark and deep, but I have promises to keep and miles to go before I sleep.") Wassalaam. [/quote] its from a poem by Robert Frost i think..The woods are lovely dark and deep, but i have promises to keep, and miles to go before i sleep. i dont wanna explain it here n turn the brothers thread into something else. sorry abt this too. |
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| Nomi |
| 12/03/03 at 00:29:55 |
| [slm] Thanks for the help sis readagain... btw i still have same concepts about "women and career" *smiles* I take the quote as ... "Whatever material beauty this world offers as in landscapes, buildings, gizmoz, i'll inshaAllah put it aside and strive for aakhirah" [quote author=A_Stranger link=board=madrasa;num=1070349367;start=0#1 date=12/02/03 at 14:38:10] To get the highest place in Jannah: qitaal fee sabeelillaah. No question about it. [/quote] They dint let me join the army, i was kicked from ISSB Center, Malir/Karachi and landed in Lahore. It hurt a litle! Besides my mother will never let me go on jihaad and scholars around me say "not without your ammis permission". But if i can build a masjid (for Allah's sake) like my late "dada g" (grandfather) then wont i get thawaab for each and every musalli offering salah in it, like forever? Sounds like an easy way out! [i]15 left and counting down[/i] |
| 12/03/03 at 00:37:18 |
| Nomi |
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| Tesseract |
| 12/03/03 at 01:17:04 |
| Assalamu 'alaikum, [quote]I'm told that a "practicing" Hafiz of Qur'an will be asked by Allah to start reciting the Qur'an and in the process his ranks in Jannah will continue to increase till he reaches the last surah![/quote] Hmmm..........Since only Prophet Muhammad (saw) could be informed about jannah, and matters related to it, the above quote has to be a Hadeeth, *if and only if* its true, assuming the fact that we all know and are sure that its not in Qur'an. Allahu A'lam. So, I have 2 questions Nomi. First, did u find out if it really is a Hadeeth, and secondly, if it is, how authentic is it? Some homework for you dude :). Wassalam. |
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| lucid9 |
| 12/04/03 at 11:10:31 |
| [slm] The following is only my opinion...so don't jump on me... (1) It is silly for us to expect the same rewards as a hafiz. This is not so much because they have actually memorized the quran -- but because they have invested [i] lots of time and effort [/i] in trying to memorize it. Until one spends the equivalent amount of time and effort for islam -- how can one compare to them?? No matter how much extra money we give as sadaqa -- money can never compare to time. One's time is far is more important than one's money. (Time >> Money) (2) Having said that: it is actually not that hard to become a hafiz or memorize significant parts of the quran. Lots of us have this mental block that the quran is so hard is memorize. This is not true. Nowadays with so many CDs of clear reciters available, easy to use quranic dictionaries, easy to read qurans and qurans transliterated into native tongues -- it is in reality very easy to memorize large portions of the quran. All one has to do is try. But people always give up before even trying very hard. (3) The arabic language and the quran have been made out to be so hard by our religious scholars -- that we think the arabic language and the quran are the domain of only the religious scholars: that for us lowly people to reach such a lofty status such as to understand the quran and remember it -- is far beyond is. Nothing could be further from the truth. Arabic is not so hard to learn -- and every muslim is obligated to learn it. I.e. how can one stand in prayer moving our lips in a total lack of understanding like a cow chewing its food -- and still expect to derive benefit from such a heedless prayer? I mean the quran is [i] designed [/i] to be memorized. It is not an inpenetrable text with long passages of dense and hard to understand material. It is not a quantum physics book or a book on esoteric philosophy. Rather, it conveys a few very easy to understand messages -- and these messages are repeated over and over and over always in a slightly different way. These messages are composed in rhyming passages so they are easy to memorize and remember. The basic point is: the quranic is an oral document. It was memorized by the first muslims and recited orally -- and it is meant to be memorized by us and recited orally. It is not a dense textbook -- it is a set of utterly beautiful rhymed messages which each of us supposed to committ to memory and recall in our daily lives as we act out our lives. It is a living message, to be thought about daily and recalled whenver we face a difficulty, sadness, happiness or even just plain boredom. So insha Allaah may us all be blessed by it and memorize it entirely so that we can act on it in our daily lives.... |
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| Nomi |
| 12/04/03 at 23:46:13 |
| [slm] [i]Something tells me that this guy is sitting at the feet of shayukh these days[/i] Uncle hyper where is your hand man? i wanna kiss it! btw bro BOI, my elder bro is away on "ejtama" so to get that hadith i dont have my interface to scholars. But i'll go see one soon (last time i was there he gave me this long lecture on getting married in early age, though its encouraged but not all of us can do that!) |
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| siddiqui |
| 12/05/03 at 00:06:31 |
| [slm] Sazaa&Jazaa (punishments and Rewards ) are in the hands of Allah swt only and who knows in what state of Imaan will one die in, or on whichact Allah swt will hold us back or promote us to Jannah So all I can say is AllahhuAalim but Br Nomi I want to remind you of the the first(or part of the first) Hadith of Bhukhari "Innamal aamalu bin niyyah" :) So best of luck dude and please pray for all of us ;) [wlm] |
| 12/05/03 at 00:08:41 |
| siddiqui |
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| momineqbal |
| 12/05/03 at 00:15:20 |
| [slm], I have heard this hadeeth as well quite sometime back. This ramadan I heard a young hafiz say a pretty scary thing though, i.e. if you memorize the Quran and you forget it, then you will be brought infront of Allah as a leper on the day of judgement. I got to go back memorize some parts again I think. |
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| Nomi |
| 12/09/03 at 01:41:25 |
| [slm] BroSiddique i sure have made dua for you but you must not forget me in yours okay? Righto, went to my imam and he says that the hadith about the practicing huffaz attaining higher ranks in Jannah by reciting the Holy Quran on judgementday, is "sahee". He dint remember name of the book though but you guys can always ask your imam to verify it inshaAllah :) [slm] Mecca "Mujahid" |
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| Taalibatul_ilm |
| 12/10/03 at 04:34:30 |
| [slm] In a hadeeth related by At-Tirmithi and Ibn Maajah and graded as Saheeh by Sheikh Albani, the Messenger of Allah, [saw] said, “The companion of the Qur’an will come on the Day of Resurrection and the Qur’an will say, “O Lord, jewel him”, so he is dressed in the jewels of honor. He [the Qur’an] then says, “O Lord increase him.” So he is dressed in the crown of honor. He [the Qur’an] says, “O Lord, be pleased with him.” So He is pleased with him and it is said to him [the companion of the Qur’an], “Recite and raise and he is increased by every aayah a hasanah.” This next part is from: http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/hadeeth/riyad/08/chap180.htm this site has riyaadh as-saaliheen with commentary 1001. `Abdullah bin `Amr bin Al-`As (May Allah be pleased with them) reported: The Prophet (PBUH) said, "The one who was devoted to the the Qur'an will be told on the Day of Resurrection: `Recite and ascend (in ranks) as you used to recite when you were in the world. Your rank will be at the last Ayah you recite.''' [Abu Dawud and At-Tirmidhi]. Commentary: This Hadith mentions the merit of those who commit the Qur'an (whole or part thereof) to memory (Huffaz). The word `ascend' here means to rise in ranks in the Jannah. The more one remembers the Qur'an, the more clear and distinct is his recitation of it, the higher would be the status that he will go on attaining through its blessings. Thus, this Hadith provides inducement for the remembrance of the Qur'an and tells us that its frequent recitation is a means to attain higher ranks in Jannah. |
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| AbdulJalil |
| 12/11/03 at 23:19:40 |
| Assalamu Alaikum The Prophet(SAWS) said: "The one who asks Allah sincerely to grant him/her shahadah,Allah will grant it to him/her even though he/she dies in his/her bed." [Muslim] http://www.jannah.org/articles/count.html Does this mean you ask, and if you pass away while you sleep anywhere, you are a shaheed? or does this means you are a shaheed only if you pass away a WAR ZONE where you happen to sleep, because for example it was the night? |
| 12/11/03 at 23:27:25 |
| AbdulJalil |
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