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A question for the tough *guys*
Nomi
11/11/03 at 02:06:11
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How are we doing Ikhwans? I'm in need of some advice from those of you who work out or were into it OR only know stuff but never tried it fearing that you might get a sprain from it :P :P

Anyhow, to make myself going i have put a reminder in startup of my computer saying "Are you working out.... LAZY!" and its helping alhamdulillah. So during Ramadan i'm doing inclined pushups (feet on the bed and hands on the floor) only and on alternate days. But the problem arising now is of even size! getting my point? Like when muscles on your right side start seeming stronger than the one on your left side!!

When you are doing weights then you can always increase the moment arm on the left side (a lil) to get things even but how to do it in pushups?? Something i tried is to keep the lower body inclined towards the right side that'll actually put more weight on your left side but this way it'll deshape your wing muscles (heh is that the right term.... in fact lil wingies :P )

So how to do it right?
Hanif bhai? Arshad bhai? (nah i dont think so :P ).. hey Chris/Ahmad? bros?
11/11/03 at 02:06:59
Nomi
Re: A question for the tough *guys*
BroHanif
11/11/03 at 17:44:09
Salaams,

Ahh just wait after Ramazan bro. You'll getr my full schedule, in Ramzan you might strain yourself. Pray tarawish and nafls that will get your weight down!!!!.

You could always cut out the five course meal you have at Sheri, Iftar, After Tarawih and Tahajud Midnight snack.

Salaams,

Hanif
Re: A question for the tough *guys*
WhiteSomali
11/11/03 at 19:48:27
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*cracks knuckles*

Yes, you came to the right person, for u see, I work out 3 days a week (and next semester Insha' Allah my first period class will be fitness, nuffin but workin out ;D)

When your liftin weights, it turns out you actually can feel one arm is stronger than the other (my left arm tends to give up first), but you're only gon feel that if you really pushin urself.

Don't worry, they still look pretty much the same (except maybe after working out when you flex, you're right arm will be *slightly* bigger, but not enough to even notice). The more you work out the more even it'll get, so don bother stressin about it.

And pushups will get you stronger but they'll only go so far. I would like to show you the best way to work out using the weights and machines, BUT I don think thas gon happen seeing as I'm all the way in Toronto, so what you could do is find someone who works out (someone who actually live by you) and aks them to show you how... that's not hard to do here but I dunno how many people work out and/or actually do it properly where you're at.

Also, you're tryin to get bigger eh ;D I feel that, insha' Allah I'll be 40 pounds heavier in a few months. Eat lots of red meat and eggs (NOT raw eggs like Rocky, you'll get salmonella (sp?) ::)) and also look into buying protein shakes or protein powder, its expensive but provided you work out you'll gain muscle mass pretty fast. ;D But don't go around eatin all this masses of food if you're not working out regularly, or else you wont get bigger you'll just get plumper if ya nah I'm sayin.

Holla at ya boy if you need help.

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11/11/03 at 19:51:08
WhiteSomali
Re: A question for the tough *guys*
Nomi
11/12/03 at 01:45:57
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[quote author=Ahmad link=board=bro;num=1068534372;start=0#2 date=11/11/03 at 19:48:27]Also, you're tryin to get bigger eh ;D I feel that, insha' Allah I'll be 40 pounds heavier in a few months. Eat lots of red meat and eggs [/quote]

40 POUNDS !!!!!!!!!! Do you want to make a yokozuna out of me !! am like 73 kg (okay for my height) and I'll be happy by gaining just 5-8 [s]pounds [/s](correction KG!) on upper body inshaAllah. And i'm not new to working out, been doing it on and off for around 4 years, like ON for a week and OFF for a month <lazy me> I dont go to gym and have bought these weights, bench and a custom made pulley engineered by moiself for trisups (sp?), back shoulder and wing muscles (Home gym :) ).

Going to a gym is such a pain and they've got this loud music going on with those silly posters of men and women on the walls ::)... aint worth it.

But i guess Ahmad is right, it'll be ok with time. Another thing one can do while doing pushups is to push more with the left arm, that'll do inshaAllah.

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Nominamater :P

PS: Bro Hanif advised me to fast more even without Ramadan coz me not married yet and hes right. I'll give it a thought inshaAllah.
11/12/03 at 01:57:24
Nomi
Re: A question for the tough *guys*
WhiteSomali
11/12/03 at 11:18:18
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40 POUNDS !!!!!!!!!! Do you want to make a yokozuna out of me !! [/QUOTE]

Ahh but I'm only 145 lbs at 6'0, and I dunno what that is in kg but it's too skinny for me. It's better than the 135 I was a few weeks ago though. I wanna go from being skinny to being big 8)

And no confusin skinnyness wit weakness allowed pls, I'm strong... compared to people who don't work out ::)

Want to write more, but later insha' Allah because I'm late for school right now, yeah. ::)

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Re: A question for the tough *guys*
Nomi
11/13/03 at 23:09:45
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Aighte Ahmad, 1 kg equals 2.2 pounds and i checked on my weight again its 75+ kg. (the previous fig. was a coupla months old!). So it makes you 65 kg and me is around 165 pounds.

Seems like i'm half way there where you wanna be :). Another 20 lbs for me and 40 lbs for you and we'll become twins :P

Lets see who gets there first, accept my challenge??
Re: A question for the tough *guys*
Aadhil
11/14/03 at 00:45:46
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        The main reason to having good health is that you are not sick all the time, and the main reason for havin big muscles is so you can defend yourself. I find lifting weights makes my arms heavy, and if you are attacked you might be too slow in hitting back, unless you wanna wrestle :P. Push ups are enough for strength, and i'm surprised at y'all for forgetting stamina. Whats the use of getting strong if that strength can only last a short time? What I do for Stamina is jog, atleast a mile. For strength I do push ups, and sit ups for strong abs. Now what more do you need?  :-* ;-) :-[
11/14/03 at 00:48:24
Aadhil
Re: A question for the tough *guys*
WhiteSomali
11/14/03 at 20:48:06
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Nomi, it's onn  ;D ANd I have no job and can't afford protein shakes anymore so you might actually stand a chance :D

Bro Muslim! ;D The main reason for havin big muscles, for me, sure defendin myself a little bit I guess, but mostly because I think it looks good 8) I won't be slow, I doubt it. I'm very fast now and as long as I don't put on any fat it should stay that way. As for stamina, I play basketball so theres my stamina workout right thurr ;D Actually that could be half my weight training too if I wanted, anyone who says basketball isnt a physical sport are WRONG :)

Hey Nomi, how high can you jump? Can you grab a basketball rim? I guess it might not matter to you if you don't play ball but at 6'0 it's one of my pride and joy accomplishments ::)
Re: A question for the tough *guys*
Nomi
11/18/03 at 23:35:06
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[i]Three days off is just too much [/i]

Okay Ahmad, i've given it lotsa thought and its ON now (it'll keep me ticking). Here are the rules.

[quote author=Ahmad link=board=bro;num=1068534372;start=0#7 date=11/14/03 at 20:48:06]Bro Muslim! ;D The main reason for havin big muscles, for me, sure defendin myself a little bit I guess, but mostly because I think it looks good 8)[/quote]

* No food suppliments
* No pushing your body to its limit (we dont wanna fell ill right?)
* No fitted shirts to show off!

GO!
11/18/03 at 23:40:54
Nomi
Re: A question for the tough *guys*
WhiteSomali
11/19/03 at 01:00:59
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* No food suppliments [/quote]

But those food suppliments work so well. I gained muscle mass really quick when I was working out and drinking protein shakes ;D Of course I never tried working out without them, although now it looks like I'll have to for a little while. But if you can get your hands on them I would go for protein shakes they really work well :) And trust me, I won't mind if you take them, because I'll still win ;)

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Re: A question for the tough *guys*
WhiteSomali
11/24/03 at 23:35:55
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Ahh no more fasting. You know what that means right? It means I'll be gettin my FLEX on  ;D Time to get big, baby! You in on the workin out bro Nomi?

I'd love to post some before and after pictures, but aye I ain got nowhere to host them ::)

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Re: A question for the tough *guys*
Nomi
11/28/03 at 23:35:55
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Ahmad, how about IMing our chest, biceps and waist (just to verify that you are gaining weight at the right places) "sizes" to each other? Posting it here would be tempting considering the view count of this thread.

And guys have you seen the type who gain the big muscles but their necks remain thin!! (anything but that) do they miss something trivial? and about ab-crunches, is it true that when you quit the crunches after developing those muscles, you get "d"-shaped ?

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Asim Zafar.

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Time to get big, baby! You in on the workin out bro Nomi?
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Ahmad keep telling me that "i'm gonna lose" and hollywood will offer me the contract for "T4" after a couple of years!! But i'll simply reject it coz me not into snaps anymore! (the controversial topic of "tasveer".. me just chose to be on the safe side BUT a month back two of my BIG BIG friends were testing their "eyed" cell phone and powered me to snap my picture!!!!!!!!! Looked just like "eid-azha", one of them pulled my ear and other [s]slaughtered[/s] snaped the pic! ::) )

11/29/03 at 00:19:48
Nomi
Re: A question for the tough *guys*
WhiteSomali
11/29/03 at 00:03:45
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And guys have you seen the type who gain the big muscles but their necks remain thin!! (anything but that) do they miss something trivial? and about ab-crunches, is it true that when you quit the crunches after developing those muscles, you get "d"-shaped ? [/QUOTE]

I have a skinny neck ::) And I dont know what the d shape thing is but i doubt its true.

[QUOTE]Ahmad, how about IMing our chest, bisups and waist (just to verify that you are gaining weight at the right places) to each other? Posting it here would be tempting considering the view count of this thread. [/QUOTE]

Yeaaaaa good luck I don't even let my family see me wit my shirt off, I just brag about my abs and keep dem to myself ::) And besides I don't have a digital camera myself and I don't think the person who takes my pictures for me will keep taking pictures for me if I tell him to take pictures of my bulging biceps, shelf pecs and 6 pack lol

If you need help doing the right exercises tho still don hesitate to ask and if you think you're buildin too slowly or lobsidedly (:-[?) then u can send my pics if you want and I can help you out insha' Allah.

Anyway I'm re-evaluating how much weight I wanna gain now. I'll play it by ear. If I start getting like one a dem pumped up musclemen, well tha's not what I want ::) and I still need to play ball.

Right now, with my ballin clothes on (that weigh almost nothing, 0 lbs!) and no shoes, I'm rackin in at a whoppin 145. I'm 155-160 with my street clothes on though so make sure you weighin urself in the right clothes!

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Re: A question for the tough *guys*
Nomi
11/29/03 at 00:22:42

Hey i was talking about sizes as in inches, not the pics. And that weight i mentioned was minus the clothes weight.

The way i'm going u stand no chance :P
Happy workouts :)
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Asim Zafar.
Re: A question for the tough *guys*
William
12/18/03 at 23:46:06
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Alhamdulillah this is my type of topic.  Lifting is a hobby of mine that I have been involved in for over ten years.  Many lessons learned from research and trial and error.

Ahmad, do you workout your trapezius muscle (traps)?  That helps with skinny neck syndrome.

Nomi: lil wingies?  I like that term.  If you want to know the actual name, it is latisimis dorsi.  Dudes at the gym call them lats.

Keep us posted on the contest!

As Salam alaikum
Re: A question for the tough *guys*
bhaloo
12/19/03 at 08:18:35
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what do you guys think of bowflex?  More effective then free weights?
Re: A question for the tough *guys*
William
12/19/03 at 13:19:26
Bismillah
As Salam alaikum
There has been much confusion since the advent of new workout equipment as to which types work best.  Simple answer is:  The best one is the one that you will use consistantly and see results with.
Muslces grow because of two factors in resistance training: Time under tension and the resistance/weight used in the exercise.  However one feels that this is best achieved is the best way to go.

On a personal note, I prefer free weights (never tried bowflew).  I prefer the more natural line of movement that they give me.  I also prefer the feeling of hauling around massive amounts of steel.  I guess that is more psychological.  I feel more satisfied putting a plate of metal onto a bar as I get stronger as opposed to moving a pin on the machine.  Not that I do not use machines but for my big lifts and core exercises, I use free weights.  I will go to the machines once my stabilization muscles are tired and I still feel like I can workout so my form will stay correct.

I noticed sisters are reading these posts also.  My advice is to not forget the resistance training!  The way that fat is burned is by the muscles.  Do not worry about the classic female fear of getting too big and bulky and unfeminine.  This can result only in two instances.  One your natural testasterone levels are higher than the average woman (rare).  Two you are taking steroids (I hope this is rare also).  

Alhamdulillah, I love this topic.

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Re: A question for the tough *guys*
WhiteSomali
12/19/03 at 21:03:02
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Alhumdullillah, William I'm glad you're here! ;D Can you explain these traps muscles to me? But I don't want to go to the point that I look like I have no neck ya nah I'm sayn. It's good to have someone here with esperience who really knows what they're talking about.

Bro bhaloo, I've never tried the bowflex as a result of me not having enough money for one ::) But as far as I can tell they do work pretty well, I dunno if they have one of those risk-free offers when you buy it?

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Re: A question for the tough *guys*
William
12/19/03 at 22:21:22
Bismillah
As Salam alaikum

The traps form a sort of diamond shape across your back.  They start at the neck, flare out along the shoulders, then taper back down the middle of your back.  This unique shape allows them to move in two types of ways.  Number one which is how most guys work their traps is the shrugging motion, bringing your shoulders to your ears.  The second and lesser worked method is pulling your shoulder blades together.

Two exercises that I would suggest are dumbbell shrugs and deadlifts.
Dumbbell shrugs are pretty easy.  Just take a dumbbell in each hand at your sides and shrug.  Focus on the full range of motion and do not use your body to "jump" the weights up.  You would be able to move more poundage but you are cheating your muscles of growth.

Deadlifts are more complicated.  It would be easier for you to do a search on this exercise than for me to write about it.  Be careful though and do not perform this exercise if the description is unclear.  Your best bet would be to have someone to show you.  Do you go to a gym?

As with any new exercise, leave your ego at the door and make sure that you have the form down correctly before you start jacking up the weight.

Leaving the ego at the door is some of the best advise I can give to anyone wanting to get bigger and stronger.  The number one person who you are trying to beat is yourself.  Don't let the mass monster next to you psyche you into putting too much weight on a bar and hurting yourself.  Then you are out of the game and that is the last place you want to be.

One of the best additions that I made to my workouts over the years was keeping a workout log.  That way you will not have to remember how much you did and how many times from each workout to the next.  It is also a motivator.  When I see that I have been lifting the same weight for the same number of reps for a couple of weeks it helps me dig deep and push myself to the next level.  It also kicks...  to see the progress that you make over the weeks.

Insha'Allah I have been helpful.  Let us all remember to be strong in body and iman.   8)

As Salam alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatu
Re: A question for the tough *guys*
Nomi
12/20/03 at 00:10:46
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Thats perfect, welcome to the club bro william. 10+ years....... hm... thats impressive. Glad we have an online coach :) [s] who needs BroHanif now [/s].

Progress of the comp.? Well alhamdulillah i'm regular in workouts than ever, not using many weights just the power (inclined) pushups and weights for my biceps. My problem is that i can't eat alot in a single go and because of my job i cant eat at regular intervals. But alhamdulillah its all good and pushups really get u in shape fast.

And bro william thanks for the technical terms, i always heard that they were called wings :P..... nada.

So Ahmad you still have your chance as i too have certain problems and am working just on chest, abs and biceps. Another thing which is keeping me ticking is this 21 year old cousin of mine who gained some mad muscles and i lost to him in arm-wrestling :( .... kids these days dont even respect their elders!!!
Re: A question for the tough *guys*
WhiteSomali
12/20/03 at 00:48:58
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Well alhamdulillah i'm regular in workouts than ever[/QUOTE]

I'm less regular than eva ;D Tha's aight insha' Allah I'll be taking fitness first period next semester, I hope, because I have other things to do after school besides go work out.

Hey Bro William, do pushups actually do anything is is Bro Nomi just fooling himself? ;D

Oh, btw, I can't tell whether I have a skinny neck or just a big Adam's apple ::) But I'll add them shrugs to my routine ;D
12/20/03 at 00:50:56
WhiteSomali
Re: A question for the tough *guys*
William
12/20/03 at 14:15:38
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Don't worry.  My Adam's apple is far from small but I surrounded it with muscle to draw attention away from it.   ;D

Push-ups are how I got started!  Love 'em.  I will throw them in a the end of a chest workout every now and then to keep things interesting.  It is kind of an ego killer when I can only get seven to ten reps though because my pecs have already been blasted.

Bro, vary your hand position in your push-ups and you will get more done with them.  The further out the hands, the more emphasis on the delts (shoulders).  The further in, the more emphasis on the tricepts (that is the correct spelling too btw  ;))

Word of advice.  Just keep some sort of routine going even if it is just push-ups before bed.  The hardest part about working out is getting that consistancy going as we may have already discovered.

Peace bros

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Re: A question for the tough *guys*
Nomi
12/20/03 at 16:55:43
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Hey Bro William, do pushups actually do anything is is Bro Nomi just fooling himself? ;D
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Kiddo ;D you heard what the big guy said? And i keep my hands some 2.5 feet apart while doing the pushups (is it ok for chest bro william?)

And i'm ignoring your comments about you not working out, we are in a comp which isn't called off and if you wanna see how good pushups are then do them by putting your feet on bed (2 feet high) and hands on ground.

I normally do 5 sets of around 15 reps each (i know thats not too good bro william but i'll improve inshaAllah btw sometimes i'm down on my knees after 11,12 reps :P .. its tough). Ok one last thingy... how to avoid dents in your cheek, anything but that.... one thing that might help is long sajood in salah :P what else? Like they are not here but when you go in heavy weights you'll start developing them right?

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William's Sidekick :P
Re: A question for the tough *guys*
WhiteSomali
12/20/03 at 19:37:55
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And i'm ignoring your comments about you not working out, we are in a comp which isn't called off and if you wanna see how good pushups are then do them by putting your feet on bed (2 feet high) and hands on ground. [/QUOTE]

Yes, the competition is still on of course, I'm just giving you a head-start because it would be unfair if I just started shattering records without giving you a handicap ;D I do all my pushups like that Bro, regular pushups cant cut it for a man of my obvious potential 8)

And I might have found myself a nice lil source a cash money, oo you gon be in trouble if I start takin protein supplements again ;D

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Re: A question for the tough *guys*
William
12/20/03 at 19:39:52
Bismillah
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The emphasis can change from chest to tricepts by simplely flaring your elbows out more or keeping your arms close to your sides.  When flared out, it emphasises the chest more.  When closer to the body, more tricepts.

"how to avoid dents in your cheek, anything but that.... one thing that might help is long sajood in salah  what else? Like they are not here but when you go in heavy weights you'll start developing them right?"

I don't know what dent in the cheek means.   ???
If you mean dents in the chest, I am still confused.  Where are they appearing?

There's no problem with cranking our a couple more reps from the knees.  Makes sure that the chest gets nice and tired.  I'll be curling or doing pushdowns or whatever and when I can no longer exercise with the weight I have, I'll drop the weight and crank out a couple more.  That's called a drop set. 8)

Keep my posted on those cheek dents!

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Re: A question for the tough *guys*
Nomi
12/23/03 at 02:35:44
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There's no problem with cranking our a couple more reps from the knees.  Makes sure that the chest gets nice and tired.  I'll be curling or doing pushdowns or whatever and when I can no longer exercise with the weight I have, I'll drop the weight and crank out a couple more.  That's called a drop set. 8)
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You are too strict a coach i'm telling you bro william! I put [i]everything[/i] in the fifth set today, infact i was dead after 4th but then i thought of this kiddo Ahmad and........... u know.... so went for the 5th set.......... hes lucky he wasn't infront of me :P.

And nevermind that cheek dent thingy, its just that concave shape of cheek that you can avoid by proper diet and by not pushing your body tooo hard.

Ahmad, i'll do it without those suppliments although i have access to all of them. So there is your handicap, btw its good that they have halal suppliments there considering lesser number of Muslim who'll be using them!
12/23/03 at 02:38:29
Nomi
Re: A question for the tough *guys*
WhiteSomali
12/23/03 at 13:56:25
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I put everything in the fifth set today, infact i was dead after 4th but then i thought of this kiddo Ahmad and........... u know.... so went for the 5th set.......... hes lucky he wasn't infront of me . [/QUOTE]

Ye fo real, I might have injured myself when I fell over laughing :D

Ad no worries, they ain any animal-sourced products up in my supplements besides some stuff thas found all in milk anyway. 8)
Re: A question for the tough *guys*
William
12/23/03 at 15:06:17
Bismillah
As Salam alaikum bros!

I get the cheek thing now.  You have to have pretty low bodyfat to get that look.  Nothing that peanut butter can't solve.

Ahmad, what are you taking and how much?  Just curious.  Tell me your's and I'll tell you mine.   ;D

Hit legs today.  It was great.  I hurt my back a while back so I have to watch for back pain before leg pain.  Insha'Allah it will heal eventually.  Do you all work legs?  Don't want to look like a top.

As salam alaikum!
Re: A question for the tough *guys*
WhiteSomali
12/23/03 at 15:45:24
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Well I don't take it now cuz its a waste of money since I'm not workin out every other day like b4, but it's called Designer Whey Protein Supplement or sumfin like that. It has 17.5g of protein a scoop and I take two scoops a day, but tha only lasts a week and I'm not gon spend all my cash flow on it so I'ma only be buyin it every other week when I start working out regularly again (insha' Allah when the new semester starts) ;D

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Hit legs today.  It was great.  I hurt my back a while back so I have to watch for back pain before leg pain.  Insha'Allah it will heal eventually.  Do you all work legs?  Don't want to look like a top. [/QUOTE]

Are you jokin? I play basketball so its important that I can jump higher than everyone else ;D (I'm forward but I'm only 6' tall when mos forwards are 6'2-6'6 here, but I still rebound over dem all 8)). Of course weights arent a great way to jump higher, its better to just jump alot, but on top of all that jumping I do work on my legs, but not so much as my upper body.
Re: A question for the tough *guys*
William
12/23/03 at 23:23:46
Bismillah
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Try ordering something from here http://www.allthewhey.com/order.htm

I am going to get some next time I need protein.  It is cheap and quality.

My freshman year in high school, I ran a 1:12 400 meter.  Really quite sad.  Over the next eight months, the only training I did was lifting weights.  I ran a :58 sec 400 meter.  Got love it.

Peace!
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Re: A question for the tough *guys*
WhiteSomali
12/24/03 at 00:20:17
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Bro William you're an extremely helpful guy ;D I'ma jus be unstoppable when I find someone wit a credit card or convince my mum or stepdad to get one so they can order for me 8)

But what's the difference  between Whey Protein Isolate and Whey Protein Concentrate? Based on the price I would assume Isolate is somehow better but then what do I know ::)

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Re: A question for the tough *guys*
Nomi
12/24/03 at 04:25:38
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Ye fo real, I might have injured myself when I fell over laughing :D
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heh.... j/k

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I get the cheek thing now.  You have to have pretty low bodyfat to get that look.  Nothing that peanut butter can't solve
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hm.. peanut butter? Never tried that but sure have tried butter as i also have access to lotsa home made dairy products. Even my grandfather is a gr8 cook of sweet dishes made using milk :)

Have you ever tried "gajer ka halwa" cooked in pure home made "desi ghee" with almonds ? Thats part of my diet these days apart from MILK. And brothers have you noticed that the guy 'Madina Wrestlers' has stopped bragging about his wrestling skills since bro william has joined the board ??? ... Here is what he was bragging about at our other hanging out place

Madina Wrestler wrote
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Arm wrestling is a skill for you Nomi but wrestling is where I will take over and you wil ask for you Hanif bhais mercy when I see you. I know how to do arm locks and neck locks so you may have biceps as big as a ball but when it comes to grappling I'm afraid I'll have you for breakfast.
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Come out bro or are you afraid of our coach ???

12/24/03 at 04:26:39
Nomi
Re: A question for the tough *guys*
BroHanif
12/24/03 at 07:37:56
Salaams,

Who who hang on soldier, you know why the post hasn't been attended as I have been called elsewhere, and that is my priority now. My work out is simple, don't eat junk, think junk, breathe junk, hear junk.

As for my wrestling skills I can remember I sparred with a guy who was four stones more than me, subhan-allah after two mins I had him pinned down. Its a skill at times and doing tooo many weights can cause an obstruction, check out the Gracie books if you want to know my skill.

Salaams,

Hanif
Re: A question for the tough *guys*
William
12/28/03 at 22:27:49
Bismillah
As salam alaikum

Number one for me is that EVERYTHING is from Allah.  I would have none of the blessings that I have if it was not from Him.  I am nothing.  No matter my size, skill, or strength, the weakest elephant would be able to mangle me.  A young tiger would rip me to shreds.  Allah Gives me so many signs to show how weak and frail I am.
I did not post on this topic to get into any wiener wagging contest.  It is not important.

As for the difference between whey concentrate and whey isolate, the isolate is a much purer form of whey protein.  It is especially good if a person has trouble digesting milk products which can cause some stomach discomfort.  From the research and testimonials from guys I respect on the subject, the slight difference in price is worth the benefits.

Keep posting bros.  8)
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Re: A question for the tough *guys*
AbdulJalil
12/31/03 at 22:40:42
Assalamu Alaikum

there is a good solution to expensive protein powder.  Just buy some milk powder in bulk. And with  protein powder you have to be carefull about the ingredients they put in them, some of them might not be completely halal.

There are stores where you can buy like 25 pounds of milk powder( or 5 pounds or 10 pounds). You can even order it online. They will save you hundreds of dollars for the whole year. You can also get it fat free. The quality might not be like whey powder, but since it is cheap, you will have a lot more to eat, and still save money.  It is still  excellent proteins! bodybuilders used to get big just  on  milk proteins, and eggs, and  meats.

I have not completely looked for this, but i think you can even buy whey powder, which is sometimes used for baking (?), or other stuff. it is way cheaper, and as good  quality. these whey powder company will charge you too much,  just for their advertisements, or because they are a "reputable brand".

Just to let you know.
12/31/03 at 22:45:33
AbdulJalil
Re: A question for the tough *guys*
William
12/31/03 at 23:32:09
Bismillah
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I would not lead my brothers astray.  Can you prove via science that milk powder provides the same if not similar results as whey protein?

I have never ever seen anything like this in my research.  I am open to a different opinion as long as scientific proof is shown.  I can provide advice or proof for what I have posted if needed.  Or... you could do your own research and see for yourself.

Milk powder is just not as concentrated as whey islolate or even whey concnetrate.  Check the stats to see.

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Re: A question for the tough *guys*
AbdulJalil
01/01/04 at 09:57:31
Assalamu Alaikum


brother William i am not questioning what you said at all about whey protein.  it is better than milk, no question about it.

i was reading Ahmad post, and he said that he did not buy protein powder because of the price. So i suggested to buy milk powder, since it is way cheaper.

Salam
Re: A question for the tough *guys*
Nomi
03/06/04 at 14:39:07
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[quote author=Ahmad link=board=bro;num=1068534372;start=30#30 date=12/24/03 at 00:20:17]

Bro William you're an extremely helpful guy ;D I'ma jus be unstoppable when I find someone wit a credit card or convince my mum or stepdad to get one so they can order for me 8)
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Ahmad, long time no spk bud ?

If you ever come back on here then i'm leaving you this message dated 7th March Paki time :) ... Message is..

You had doubts about pushups helping me get where i wanted to be huh? Well, alhamdulillah, i'm pretty much there  8) ... inclined pushups on "punches" helped alot alhamdulillah. All brothers reading this should take notes too ;)

And bro William, why do we not get to read any more encouraging posts from you in this thread? Come on bro, you were of alot of help we'll appreciate more tips and tricks from ya :)

BroHanif, you better watchout now, ur sidekick got somewhat big alhamdulillah []

Bro Muslim, hows you? and how are the workouts progressing? Now that Ahmad has chickened out (hehe) i would like another challenger to keep myself going, so, any takers? :)

[slm] and happy workouts
03/06/04 at 14:41:56
Nomi
;D :)Re: A question for the tough *guys*
WhiteSomali
03/16/04 at 23:56:06
[slm] bros :)

Nomi, see my post in bebzi bro. I kno i wasn here and oh, the pain it caused me knowin you'd think i was backin out ;D

ne, things have recently come up in my life... lotta thingz and lotta drama, consumin alotta time ya feel me :o So besides my vertical exercises i'm not really straining myself as far as working out goes... I mean I still do it but not on dat same ultra intense level I used to.

The good news is I can jump really, really high now masha Allah ;) And also I am getting stronger, by pretty decent amounts, but despite the fact that I'm eating more than I used to, and alot of meat still, I'm not really getting bigger. I'm getting stronger but im stayin skinny... Still tryin to fix dat but masha Allah at least I'm in shape.

BUT le's remember bro I don't even turn 17 till June, i got plenty of time to fill out huh ;) My biological father was 6'2 and about 200 lbs and pure muscle, that still gives me about 2 inches to grow and 50 lbs to gain insha Allah.

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Re:  ;D :)A question for the tough *guys*
Nomi
03/17/04 at 00:28:43
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[quote author=Ahmad link=board=bro;num=1068534372;start=30#38 date=03/16/04 at 23:56:06]
I'm not really getting bigger. I'm getting stronger but im stayin skinny... Still tryin to fix dat but masha Allah at least I'm in shape.

BUT le's remember bro I don't even turn 17 till June, i got plenty of time to fill out huh ;) My biological father was 6'2 and about 200 lbs and pure muscle, that still gives me about 2 inches to grow and 50 lbs to gain insha Allah.
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whats your problem ???

I'm getting bigger AND stronger alhamdulillah ....... alhamdulillah .........

Lotsa buffets and eating out these days, yesterday i ate so much to be able to walk properly even!

whats your problem ???

My father was of the size of us two brother, all muscles, all at right places. He was such a powerful man, once he was tutoring me (i was ~7) and i did some really dumb mistake for which he yelled a litle only to see me pee my shorts, literally.

Did i tell you that he was a politician, especially an elected politician and according to current system of my country his powers were equal to ~2 (mistake corrected) govt officials who now are elected to run the area that he once ran alone.

hm... you made me recall my father!! He died some 18 years back. oh well.. part of life.

and whats your problem ???

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-wanna be bigger bro



ps: Did i tell ya that its soooo good to have you back? {{ A tight brotherly/manly hug to you bud }} :)

pps: And does it mean that ur gonna chicken out now ? [img]http://www.jannah.org/board/images/laugh.gif[/img]
03/17/04 at 02:09:55
Nomi
Re: A question for the tough *guys*
WhiteSomali
03/17/04 at 23:43:34
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whats your problem ???[/QUOTE]

I dunno bro, are you referin to da drama or da hard time gettin bigger?

and I cant chicken out, bcuz im a lion ;)


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